Congratz new thread !!

"new" GF1 user reporting in

I wish panny will release a 12mm f2.0 or bigger. Somehow I missed the 24mm on my LX3. I find the 20mm that I have now, lacking
Also hoping for a new LVF2

This post has been edited by idoblu: Nov 21 2010, 09:05 AM

add me, GF1 14-45mm kit

guys im considering Olympus EPL1 and Panasonic Lumix GF1...
whats is the best out of this 2 model. Today is the decision making and will be buying it tonight so pls do share with me the advantage and worthness...

please add me to the list

GF1 Black with 20mm Kit and 14-45mm kit

Mum's cooking....chicken rice...

EPL1+20MM Panny

GF1 user reporting in...

add me to the list please.. E-PL1+14-42mm + 40-150mm kit lens

Just found out the 70-300 M.zuiko cost about 800-900USD ......

WHAT A RIP OFF. When compared other models placed the 70-300 as a budget lens. Oly and Pana sure are exploiting their core customers >.<. I'm considering jumping the bandwagon to Canon or Nikon now that I have a pancake with my EP1 aka my P&S replacement.

On the other hand, the 40-150 with MMF-2 is quite a steal, getting it from USA for a measly sum of 179USD

Gonna get shot for this but seriously... m43/mirrorless's strength is in size.. as in not having to lug around a dedicated camera bag... as a compact replacement, second/backup camera.

What's the point of getting long zooms for it?

To exploit the 2X crop, making it cheaper than buying the equivalent lens on other, less smaller sensor size DSLR. Of course its not practically on a range finder camera, I'm talking about telephoto lens options in general for the m4/3 which after a year only start to surface.

But shouldn't small=less material=less cost?

Judging by the line up and past products, almost all the prices had remain consistent with a minor drop of price. Furthermore some of them are mostly plastic body, but can cost as much as the medium grade lens on the 4/3 system. Best examples are the primes, with prices fetching at least 1k and beyond.

That's sure alot to pay for downsizing stuff.

I think your concept a bit wrong di.

Yes...One of the "benefit" of 2X crop = smaller lens

This does not equal to cheaper lens.

Material cost is only a teeny weeny part of the cost of a product ler... like a computer cpu... the silicon only cost kacang putih but billions are needed for R&D and building the fab.

How many cpu's they need to sell to get back the billions of dollars?

Same thing with these m4/3 lens. The best selling m43's are targeted towards casual users that don't go beyond the kit lenses so the total market volume is small.

In my mind, casual means something approachable. But the lenses that comes out besides the body are fetching quite high. As far as I can see, the only budget lens is the 14-42 kit lens. The rest are almost near the 1k mark and above. There is no budget prime like canon and nikon, or even olympus has like the 50mm for the m43.

Not something like a college kid who just graduated from P&S can afford. I can only see young working adults buying this stuff on the long term.

To be fair... most of those "affordable" 50mm have their history traced back 80's as kit lens for film SLR's with minor updates as time past by. Essentially this means that the Canon and Nikon would've shipped tooooneeesss of them enough to recoup any initial investments.

Besides those, most decent lens for dslrs also pass the 1K mark wat.

I actually have a mid size bag for my camera stuff, unless I just hang it on my neck, I don't think m43 is any where consider as small. 550D also small lor.
Since it's a 2x crop factor it would be better for extra reach right? Just get a 200mm or 300mm u get a 400mm or 600mm equivalent for 35mm.
It's much lighter compared with a DSLR of the same reach right?

BTW, is there anyone playing manual focus lenses with their m43 ??

Yeah.. but then ... wouldn't it be only useful in the best lighting conditions, with tripod and with the bonzai dslr's ergonomics only.

Which brings back to mirrorless's unique selling preposition.

I bought GF1 because I dun like DSLR's bulkness, but it's not small overall also. What I dun like about m43 is that it really lacks m43 lenses and they are pricey. Currently I'm looking at some MF prime lenses now, wonder how practical would it be. Anyone playing with C/M mount lenses or any of Canon FD or Nikon lenses?

Guys which camera shop got the best deal on epl1 single kit lense + 20mm pancake?

You can try to simulate the experience by going out jalan jalan in good light, bad light, no light ... snap some photos with manual focus only.