Gonna get shot for this but seriously... m43/mirrorless's strength is in size.. as in not having to lug around a dedicated camera bag... as a compact replacement, second/backup camera.

What's the point of getting long zooms for it?

Yeah.. but then ... wouldn't it be only useful in the best lighting conditions, with tripod and with the bonzai dslr's ergonomics only. 

Which brings back to mirrorless's unique selling preposition.

You can try to simulate the experience by going out jalan jalan in good light, bad light, no light ... snap some photos with manual focus only.

The feel is different with fly by wire focus..

Of course older MF only lenses are more "accurate" in getting the focus you want since they have a longer travel from infinity to MFD and they are meant to be manually focused after all =p.
Comparing to the likes of AF lenses now, the focus travel can be really short like my tamron 17-50VC(not for m4/3 btw).

But the fly by wire focusing does change focus faster the faster you turn the ring though to a certain limit as to how fast it can go.

What I meant is the feel of focussing with LCD and the other hand working on focussing the lens while trying to keep hand steady with magnified view... without being on the tripod.

Just sharing a news with you guys:

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-and-here-it-is...us-e-pl2-image/

Maybe an upgrade for me? xD Can reuse my EVF!

Two GF2...so you used it yet? Any comments?

Anyways here is another picture of my cousin taken by my sister. A bit out of focus(in the eye) but then, its a difficult lighting condition.

Sorry bro. Really beginner here. M43 is???

Kenot say like that lar. Last time got no competition. Now got NEX to come spoil the market.

E-PL2 also ngam ngam selling in Taiwan but the price feels not very ngam as both NEX5 and GF1/2 is cheaper.

Summore have to buy the 20 f1.7 separately to make it a worthwhile package.

All that added together = mucho $$$ 

Nevertheless.. still find the E-PL2 one of the more interesting recent cameras.

anyone using gf2?
izzit worth to upgrade from gf1?

hi just to share..today i call up panasonic malaysia i ask them if my panasonic lens is spoil where do i send for repair. To my horror they say lens do not have any warranty!! yeah that right panasonic say lens no warranty..then i get real piss off and ask her to check properly. Then she come back and say sorry sir got warranty you can send back the unit to panasonic to check and if got issue we will send to Bintang Maju. Once again i am shock!! i ask wtf dont panasonic have their lens repair division? She answer no panasonic malaysia do no repair any slr or lens. so they will all send to bintang maju. I ask again if Bintant Maju is certified as a repair center for panasonic or not..she did not answer and keep quiet...So guys just to inform you if you buy any panasonic slr or lens..you either need to send it back to japan for repair yourself or let panasonic send your lens to bintang maju for "repair"

Unlike olympus who have their real service center for camera and lens in mt kiara who handle local repair very well...

So think twice before you get any panasonic lens or slr..

aiyo paiseh i am a newbie panasonic user...

What's your 2 kupang on the GF2?

Your  20cents on the GF2

*I shall post in proper england from now on 

Can elaborate on that?

I guess after lurking around here for so long.. I still need to justify to myself that I "need" another camera between my 550D, S90, IP4
This one straightforward question... the no-warranty-panny 20mm f1.7 already cult status for m43. Slightly over 1-stop faster than the Olympus = if you need to use ISO1600 on the Olympus... you can get away with ISO800 with the panny.

The quintessential review site -->  http://www.photozone.de/olympus--four-thirds-lens-tests

That's the problem... hard to justify though suffer from gearlust everyday.
    Need pics.... lotsa pics.... and your 2 cents  on how it performs. How's the performance in terms of shutter lag and shot-to-shot time?
Bleh... my 550D already ~40K liao.

Errr...550D don't look good with a suit and the advert sux'ed compared with these nice ones.

So far not justifiable yet mar

I like the PEN's but with the GF's speed. E-PL1 felt very slow.. the shot to shot time... probably the low reso screen, the tacky lens and lack of dials adds to that rather rudimentary feel.