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post Nov 15 2010, 10:54 PM

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feel sympathy to u DT89...customer is always RIGHT rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


to hilmi...BERANI KERANA BENAR TAKUT KERANA SALAH vmad.gif vmad.gif

makaveli
post Nov 16 2010, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(DT89 @ Nov 15 2010, 09:10 PM)
Don't know man, No calls, no updates, no notification.

Just asking...How would i know if he has already made a police report ?

But i doubt it, because police would'nt even bother about cases like these.
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If you want to know if Hilmi logde a report against you or relating this matter,
just go to any police station look for your name or ic number(that how we trace)
but since i doubt he wouldnt do it.he dont have your name,ic or any identification.
theremore he cant even report in proper,due to the buyer(you) havent lodge also on this case.
if he really did a report or rather,ask him for the report number.
but i doubt.
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:22 AM

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Latest SMS to HILMI (10.02am November 16th) :


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I'm asking you again hilmi, when will you be giving me my refund and take back your faulty speakers? If i were to proceed with the repairs starting by sending it in to a tech for a detailed check on parts, i will not consider anymore refunds, and i will leave your name, your picture and every other details of you online. I will not take it down anymore. Let me know of your decision by wednesday 12pm. if there is no respond from you by then, i will assume that you don't want to take any responsibilities on this sale (Behringer truth b2031a , price RM1000) as a seller and breaking your 3 days warranty promise. If my refund is given, I will do as I say and remove your name and details from all that i've posted online. Thanks.

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post Nov 16 2010, 04:40 PM

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I think TS's kind enough to give you a solution to solve the case while not making the issue worse,but instead,you keep requesting TS to take down your details before refund him......This is not the way to do business

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post Nov 16 2010, 10:24 PM

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not to mention
silence from him

i do admit
ts is really being very lenient towards u
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:50 PM

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if i was ts i would molotov that scammers house, see what warranty he gives then
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post Nov 17 2010, 04:17 AM

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So where is the Dispute Tag?
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post Nov 17 2010, 04:52 AM

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Hilmi havent passed his 7 days yet.after that he will get.
but considering he having 2 of dupe account.
Should get banned right. ?
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post Nov 17 2010, 08:59 AM

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Dare to online using dupe account but don't dare to show face here...screen captured @ 9am today smile.gif

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post Nov 17 2010, 10:04 AM

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Yes, he used his other account STFUmofos to even create a topic in Kopitiam yesterday.

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This post has been edited by DT89: Nov 17 2010, 10:21 AM
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post Nov 17 2010, 10:39 AM

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i think this is typical coward traits.....first try to scared you with a non-existing report and try to boast how well he knew the law. but when it got backfired, chicken out without even feeling ashamed........sounds familiar? just go out n catch one snatch thieves.....they will do/say the same and u can find the similarities when they are surrounded by the public.........good luck guys........i can say that he wont be paynig back....
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post Nov 17 2010, 11:50 AM

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If Hilmi not afford to give warranty, why give personal warranty?? <--- Warranty can't simply give. If you buy new item from shop, the price actually included the warranty cost.

If Hilmi can proof the speaker blew by buyer, then Hilmi deserve the right not to refund <--- Hilmi can't proof, so give warranty la, same as the shop did.

TS deserve the right for full refund on this case obviously.

Hate to see this kind of seller.

Hilmi must refund!
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post Nov 17 2010, 12:41 PM

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Deadline Message to Hilmi Al Guffran at 12.11pm (Wednesday, 17th November 2010) :

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Haven't heard from you since your last statement of wanting to make a police report ? It's already your deadline for my refund, Wednesday 12pm, 17th November 2010. So i'll asume that you're running away from your responsibilities. You do know that you are on google search already with all your details on it stapled with a conman title. Just to inform you, I'm proceeding with sending the Behringer truth b2031a to a behringer authorized tech for a detailed check on parts and repair, and i will continue to expose you and your wrong doings to the public for as much as i can.

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post Nov 17 2010, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ Nov 17 2010, 12:25 PM)
Report to the haji islam .. all go tangkap him for breaking syariah law
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Thats a good idea.DT89 got all the details.


QUOTE(DT89 @ Nov 17 2010, 12:41 PM)
Deadline Message to Hilmi Al Guffran at 12.11pm (Wednesday, 17th November 2010) :

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Haven't heard from you since your last statement of wanting to make a police report ? It's already your deadline for my refund, Wednesday 12pm, 17th November 2010. So i'll asume that you're running away from your responsibilities. You do know that you are on google search already with all your details on it stapled with a conman title. Just to inform you, I'm proceeding with sending the Behringer truth b2031a to a behringer authorized tech for a detailed check on parts and repair, and i will continue to expose you and your wrong doings to the public for as much as i can.
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I dont think he will dare to speak up here again.
btw,DT89,i think now you should lodge a report against him if no refund till today.
you got all the evidence and make sure you print screen this thread for reference..
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post Nov 17 2010, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(makaveli @ Nov 17 2010, 01:19 PM)
Thats a good idea.DT89 got all the details.
I dont think he will dare to speak up here again.
btw,DT89,i think now you should lodge a report against him if no refund till today.
you got all the evidence and make sure you print screen this thread for reference..
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I think his "bird" fly already. Haha

So, cannot talk c0c1< anymore.

Ts, how much for the repairing cost?
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post Nov 17 2010, 07:06 PM

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wanna ask...wat is covered in a 'warranty' anyways?
when buying thru pos, seller will say, buyer bare risk (transportation,shaking,breaking yeah?)
i've read this thread from start...let say i buy an item, cod at one place (at that place, the item is still working)
but after driving the item home (still have shaking,gegar sane,gegar sini inside the car) the item faulty?
whose fault is that?from what i see from this topic, the seller should take 100% responsibility?
please do not flame me,I'm just really curious >.<
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post Nov 17 2010, 07:31 PM

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dont forget his address , if i got conned 1k , i would do stupid things onto his house , ala the classic chinese style laugh.gif

lu ngat lu kool sngt ka ambik gambar act gangster , sial btol .
but your kookie iz kiut wub.gif



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post Nov 17 2010, 07:59 PM

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Hey did someone actually delete my post ? WTF ? mad.gif
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post Nov 17 2010, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Nov 17 2010, 02:40 PM)

Ts, how much for the repairing cost?
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Yet to find out, i'm going to an authorized dealer tomorrow who is able to send it to a authorized behringer tech for repairs. This includes all original parts. Cost of repair is yet to be determined until further check on the parts. But the service charge to rectify the problem will start at rm80. Depending on repair cost, the RM80 service charge could probably be waved.



As for police report, i would rather not waste my time at the police station because i doubt police would take this case seriously. Because there has been much serious cases happening as compared to this which they did not take any action about it also.
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post Nov 17 2010, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Nov 15 2010, 03:08 AM)
Again, 'personal warranty' been manipulate by an irresponsible seller.

To TS, yes.. as dagger69 said, u will not have your money back from this kind of seller. Twisting words, knowing that he already got an advantage, knowing that police also can do nothing, hmm.. i really feel pity on u bro. Last time we also got one forumer selling a headphone that also use this 'personal warranty' to escape himself been sold a faulty stuff, just exactly as your case.

My advise, next time if u ever feel like something not good with the deal, plz just leave it. Dont proceed. Yes, this is not a stuff that you can decide its good and working well just with a simple test, its need more then that to verify whether its good or not. I feel like for this kind of stuff, dont buy used items.

And to seller, my advise is dont twist your words. Yes, you win on this but plz dont twist your words, just imagine if this case happen to u. U said want refund, later said no refund. And my another advise is,

Nama dah cantik, Hilmi Guffran.. Sedap nama Islam kau.. muka pun hensem, ada tahi lalat pulak lagi.. tapi sayangnye.. tak bersyukur dgn nikmat tuhan, minum benda yang memabukkan.. dan bangga pulak mengaku..  doh.gif This is not personal, this is more than that. Bertaubatlah.
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kpd hilmi: bertaubat la bro.. dunia dah penghujung jalan dah.. setitis benda mabuk tu pon dah sedih siksaan nya... pastu jadi penipu plak tu... tak JUJUR...

apis: takpe la bro.. nak buat camana.. teman tu dah amik tiket tol hiway to neraka... kita nasihat dia tanak dengar takpa.. janji dah lepas tanggungjawab kita sbgi sedara seagama dia... mudah2an dia dpt petunjuk sblum nyawa dia claim olehNya... icon_rolleyes.gif

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