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post Apr 8 2011, 08:37 PM

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Openbox + Tint2

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post May 6 2011, 11:37 AM

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Natty in Unity

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post May 9 2011, 03:25 PM

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Global menus in KDE oh yeah!

Still buggy but at least it works for now.

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post May 10 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(fJok3R @ May 10 2011, 03:17 PM)
guys, one noob question, so scrotwm is just another d.e like xfce, fluxbox and stuff right? correct me if i'm wrong
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It's a window manager.

A desktop environment contains more than just a window manager. It includes panels and everything that's on it, and probably some more stuff such as bundled applications that comes with it.

A window manager is, well, the framework that draws window borders, and are included with a desktop environment. Without them it'll be a pain to organize programs that are running.

For more details ask Sifu G-17. whistling.gif

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post May 11 2011, 06:23 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ May 10 2011, 09:43 PM)
P.S: Is all this recent interest in ScrotWM (not just here, but other online forums as well) thanks to me?
I remember a time when only me, a friend and the BSD-community were using it and no one else was interested cos it was either "too simple" or "too ugly", but now there's suddenly so much interest, it's hilarious laugh.gif

More power to the Scrotum!! tongue.gif
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For the more new users who're used to having a desktop environment before making the jump into having a Linux distribution installed on their computer, a DE is more suited for them because the majority just can't live without it. One thing great about the *NIX distributions of today (be it BSD, GNU/Linux etc) is the availability of choice (although there's also the argument this is the main problem why critics say that *NIX will never surpass Windows on the desktop) and users can choose what they want, but there's also this need of idiot-proof easy customization that can be done with one single tap of the mouse button instead of inserting new lines in a configuration file, and most new users who just transitioned from any other OS (say, Windows itself) would rather go clickety-click rather than go Ctrl+??? because they are more familiar with it - because people recognize things that they can do rather than recall what they could.

I had to agree with these uninterested people, though, because for some people, a vanilla ScrotWM (as how I see it) lacks the aesthetics they want to see. Which I can empathize with. But from what I deduce, ScrotWM really isn't for these people as well so I guess the choice is there, they can just pick another one they'll more interested in - which is why I'm ridiculed by the amount of hate for Unity, I guess they just didn't know choices other than Unity are always available, but no they just had to slam Linux in general to the ground and be so disappointed they went back to Windows. Derp!

I do have some little interest in trying to use ScrotWM in order to experiment with it (I do hope I won't end up having too many DEs/WMs installed just because I feel like it), but apparently I guess there's some self-configuration which needs to be done - by editing the configuration files as from what I know, which is quite the turn-off for me. Not that I can't do that, but if there's a way for me to skip doing that and get to running an application straight away with zero configuration (aka vanilla config), please do let me know, I might try again later. Then again I guess the aesthetics for ScrotWM is really isn't for me tongue.gif

Probably you'll expect more users to be more courageous to jump into using minimalist window managers when they're more experienced with the *NIX world whistling.gif

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post May 15 2011, 10:54 PM

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KDE 4.6.2 on 11.04

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post May 20 2011, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(seatux @ May 19 2011, 05:22 PM)
Here's the occular rape farkind is talking about:

Hannah Montanna Linux

Great as a April's fool prank in the office.
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I think I just had a seizure caused by the bright colors.
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post Jun 1 2011, 12:05 AM

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post Jun 9 2011, 06:58 PM

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I wouldn't bank too much on getting it very, very personal, so exclusive only I can use because... reasons.

Else I'll get my laptop destroyed even though it's mine. And I have parents who're on the other scale of IT awareness compared to me. Figure the math whistling.gif

It all boils down to one's own preferences, to me there's no such thing as mainstream, it's only "The desktop I want to use for various things including work."

And when "work" includes graphics editing, working on them in particuluar WMs/DEs somehow feel a bit destructive sweat.gif

Just my two cents.

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post Jun 9 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jun 9 2011, 06:13 PM)
I work in the graphic arts/design and I have no problems on the Openbox install on my workstation. Actually, I've never had any problem with any WM and graphic applications. Sure, I needed to set-up float variables/quirks for multi-pane apps like Gimp or Bibble Pro on the tiling WMs, but that's about it. They're actually much faster on WM's in my experience, one hand on keyboard while the other on the mouse or Wacom Pen, switching between palettes, windows or workspaces.... YMMV, obviously.

You're right about it being personal, though. My preference is to deter as many stinking humans away from my comp as possible. There's a certain sense of satisfaction when the girlfriend asks to borrow your laptop to check her mail, only to spend the next few minutes blindly clicking about everywhere on screen and nothing happens. A noob's frustrated look = Citibank Priceless Moment.
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Well, I do have moments where I had to deter someone from using my laptop (one of them being my annoying eldest sister... shhh). Well, at least until that person gives up trying.

Solution? Ctrl+Alt+F1. whistling.gif

Now if only I can take screenshots of a TTY... in which I don't know how. Scrot doesn't work, since it requires itself to be run in X as it runs.

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post Jun 9 2011, 10:06 PM

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I run Byobu, though.

Now that you said it... I recalled about reading the use of Alt+PrtScr somewhere before. I'll test it now.

EDIT: Ah, Alt+PrtScr doesn't work, but I have installed fbgrab sometime ago and apparently forgot about it. Thanks! tongue.gif

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Aaaand there we go. Nothing much, but I'm pretty comfortable with just a TTY+Byobu.

I think I gotta read up more on making it a bit more colorful though.

But at least this makes good chances to joke around in screenshot threads tongue.gif

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post Jun 10 2011, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(monsh @ Jun 10 2011, 01:39 PM)
ahaha
damn i think its already my week 12 .
dun really know what the hell im doing

im suck at this T_T
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Take it easy. It took me almost a whole semester to know what I'm doing myself. And still learning.

You just don't stop learning there biggrin.gif
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post Jun 12 2011, 01:48 PM

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^ That sounds like something I'd only be daring to run in a TTY session, since it seems to remove X as well...
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post Jun 12 2011, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jun 12 2011, 07:58 PM)
Hmm, I'm probably not the best person to answer this, since I generally dislike docks (even the one on my Mac... which I can't get rid off >_<)

The best I can think off is Tint2, which isn't officially classified as a dock, but can emulate most dock functionality if you're good with your config. It can hold launchers, split up segments to show different workspaces, has a systray and clock...etc.

Another one is AdeskBar. I'm not 100% sure that it doesn't require compositing, but the older versions didn't require it. It's pretty decent and very light Not as light as Tint2, but still light enough for most systems (your Arch friends won't laugh at you calling it bloated, for sure). Not quite sure if it's still actively maintained (last update was Oct last year), but there's a lot of info here : http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/44...er-for-openbox/ ... it started out as a CrunchBang-related project, that's why I'm linking you there. The guy who made it (called ADcomp) is quite the python guru, and overall top bloke.

There's also SimDock, which they say doesn't require compositing, but I have no clue about what it does or how well it runs.
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*cough* Wbar, dude. Although I have no idea how to configure it, the vanilla install of it looks so plain it could use some proper configuring whistling.gif

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post Jun 13 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jun 12 2011, 11:05 PM)
Should be. I'm not quite sure how it's done in Ubuntu, but if you rely on GDM, then you should see a "Scrotwm" entry under Sessions. Not 100% sure since I don't use GDM on my rigs.

I recommend you read the man page first before logging in to Scrotwm. I also posted some configs earlier in this thread, as well as another thread (Debian Tiling Adventure) that farkinid started. You can use those as a starting point if you like.

I have to sleep now, though (must wake up early)  ... so I'll only be able to answer any further questions tomorrow.
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Yep. Depending on the login manager used, you'll see an entry named ScrotWM.
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post Jun 15 2011, 01:19 AM

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Back to Openbox, and re-creating a simple conky setting for it.

Clean.
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Busy.
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GTK theme: Hope
Icons: Faenza-Dark
Openbox: Mire Grey V2

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post Jun 15 2011, 05:41 PM

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Added Audacious / Amarok configuration on Conky to display current song playing on it. If neither of these two runs, no Now Playing will be shown.

(... Don't ask me to tap into Lua. I had enough headache figuring out vanilla Conky by itself >_>)

Audacious running and playing:
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Amarok running and playing:
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Oh, and also, enabled RGBA transparency. Sweet.

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post Jun 15 2011, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jun 15 2011, 05:42 PM)
@Zai
Nice work.

@Flamer
Also very nice, but I hope you noticed xcompmgr nor drawing drop-shadows around your terminal. It's a well documented bug that occurs with the likes of Terminator, LXTerm and Xfce4-Terminal (note: changing to cairo-compmgr won't solve it either... it's something to do with the actual terminals). BTW, what's the font you're using for the currently-playing track in your Audacious display (not the playlist)?
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Hmm? Well, I don't really care about drop shadows of the terminal not being drawn.

I'm using a Kozuka Gothic Pro (which was actually copied off my Windows installation), but I guess the Linux equivalent would be something like Droid Sans? Well, since I use only one font for the whole Conky display (not just limited to the Now Playing)...

Well, I actually have been looking for a... uh, perfectly ordinary font to use with it. Arial doesn't look too attractively ordinary rclxub.gif
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post Jun 15 2011, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jun 15 2011, 07:19 PM)
@Flamer
Doesn't look like Droid Sans to me. I meant the All-Caps Pixel Font in the Currently Playing part of the Audacious player. The one currently side-scrolling the "Master Assassin" track.

You should've expected someone like me to only bother about pixel fonts. tongue.gif
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Ah, I see what you meant.

... No idea. It seems to come with Audacious's skin... and I don't have any idea how to dissect the skin and find where it resides, if the font exists in my disk.

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post Jun 19 2011, 03:44 PM

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^ Nice, although... feels a bit too "jambu" for me doh.gif

Even if I like these "moemoe" stuff I don't think I'll dare to touch that doh.gif

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