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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V66, PET.CHE In & BJTOTO Out, CI will leap ??

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SKY 1809
post Nov 16 2010, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Jtic @ Nov 16 2010, 07:20 PM)
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luckily from last week i started tune my portfolio to defensive stocks~
and thanks to all taikor here who gave advice~!!
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Oil and Gas in Malaysia seems to attract quite a lot of long term foreign investors. We could be in important Oil & Service Hub in the making.

The government is working closely with Petroliam Nasional Bhd to draw up incentives for industry players to optimise the nation's oil output, and in the process boost the industry and set the stage for Malaysia to emerge as a pivotal regional hub for oilfield services.


Schlumberger is a leading supplier of TECHNOLOGY [], integrated project management and information solutions to customers working in the oil and gas industry worldwide. Schlumberger's financial hub and Asian headquarters here.

Idris said Petronas, as one of the top oil companies in the world, would champion and lead the development of the oil, gas and energy industry in Malaysia by sharing its experiences and technical expertise.

The presence of multinational companies like Schlumberger would certainly play an important role to boost the industry moving forward, he added.


Petronas to announce specific incentives for O&G sector, says Idris Jala

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...idris-jala.html

Hup Seng posts higher Q3 pre-tax profit

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 16 2010, 07:36 PM)
Sharing more positive news  icon_rolleyes.gif

Oil and Gas in Malaysia  seems to attract quite a lot of long term foreign investors. We could be in important Oil & Service Hub in the making.

The government is working closely with Petroliam Nasional Bhd to draw up incentives for industry players to optimise the nation's oil output, and in the process boost the industry and set the stage for Malaysia to emerge as a pivotal regional hub for oilfield services.
Schlumberger is a leading supplier of TECHNOLOGY [], integrated project management and information solutions to customers working in the oil and gas industry worldwide. Schlumberger's financial hub and Asian headquarters here.

Idris said Petronas, as one of the top oil companies in the world, would champion and lead the development of the oil, gas and energy industry in Malaysia by sharing its experiences and technical expertise.

The presence of multinational companies like Schlumberger would certainly play an important role to boost the industry moving forward, he added.
Petronas to announce specific incentives for O&G sector, says Idris Jala

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...idris-jala.html

Hup Seng posts higher Q3 pre-tax profit

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Nov 16 2010, 08:44 PM)
I like my Hupseng results.  biggrin.gif
my Faber, not bad too.  tongue.gif
but share price...  shakehead.gif
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One unit trust company is predicting CI to hit 1800pts next year.

Of course, it would not go up in one single straight line for sure. icon_rolleyes.gif



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What are the defensive counters that you have in your mind?

I have Dialog. smile.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 16 2010, 08:52 PM)
One unit trust company  is predicting CI to hit 1800pts next year.

Of course, it would not go up in one single straight line for sure. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Haha, I never came across any UT company, any investment research will say bear may be coming, or predict index is lower than currently.

Set target 1300, once reach, revise up to 1500
reach 1500, revise up to 1800... and so on.

Always future looks rosy, particularly market is bull time.

Predict a lower figure like breaking their own rice bowl. whistling.gif biggrin.gif

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Hi! All taikor here, need your help in IT matter.
I am trying to access my HLeB using a new laptop( using window 7 home, IE8) but some how the share platform screen only show around 3 quater of the stock screen, and I can only see the "buy" button and small part of the "order" button, the "sell" button is totally disappeared. I have tried log off and on many times but still facing same problem.
Any taikor here has any idea how to overcome this ?.



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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 16 2010, 09:03 PM)
Haha, I never came across any UT company, any investment research will say bear may be coming, or predict index is lower than currently.

Set target 1300, once reach, revise up to 1500
reach 1500, revise up to 1800... and so on.

Always future looks rosy, particularly market is bull time.

Predict a lower figure like breaking their own rice bowl.  whistling.gif  biggrin.gif
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Their predictions do incorporate worst case, possible case and best case.

IF certain foreign factors like the US are not too favorable, the impacts would be there ( worst case ).

From their past experiences, 1800 pts stands a good chance,

Good to keep an open minded and hear it out, then make a judgment.

Just my view.


Added on November 16, 2010, 9:40 pmForeign interest continues to circle P&O PDF Print E-mail
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KUALA LUMPUR: Pacific & Orient Bhd’s (P&O) insurance business is believed to still be on the radar of other foreign parties despite Prudential Holdings Ltd dropping out of the acquisition talks for the local general insurer.

“One of the interested parties eyeing the insurance business of P&O is an insurer from the North Asian region. They are exploring the possibility of acquiring the business... The insurer is studying the company [P&O] and should they decide to go ahead with the buy, they will write to Bank Negara Malaysia for approval to start formal negotiations,” said a source familiar with the matter.

The source added that one of the reasons the talks between P&O and Prudential fell through was because both parties could not agree on the pricing.

“It is understood that the asking price for P&O’s insurance business is somewhere along the region of two times price-to-book ratio… that is using the latest local general insurer transaction — Jerneh [Insurance Bhd] — as a benchmark,” the source noted.

The book value of P&O’s insurance business stood at RM160 million in July.

When contacted on the matter, P&O’s managing director and CEO Chan Thye Seng declined to comment.

P&O was one of the top 10 losers yesterday, with its stock dropping 11% to end at 91 sen following news last Friday that Prudential had ended talks with the local insurer.

From its 52-week closing low of 50 sen last November, the stock hit its 52-week closing high of RM1.24 on Aug 12.

Apart from the latest set-back, P&O’s share price may have also come under pressure due to a potential share overhang from its recently completed private placement exercise. The company had undertaken a 10% private placement exercise of 5.25 million shares at 99 sen per share. The shares were listed on Oct 20.

Following the exercise, P&O’s share base increased to 236.34 million shares. At 91 sen, the company has a market capitalisation of RM215.07 million. Its net assets per share stood at 72 sen on June 30.

Two months ago in September, Jerneh announced that US insurer ACE would be paying RM654 million for the local insurer’s business, in the process setting a new benchmark in the valuation of local insurers. The valuation of 2.24 times price-to-book based on the Jerneh’s shareholders’ fund of RM291.29 million is the biggest general insurer deal publicly announced to date, after the recent financial crisis.

Some industry insiders believe that Jerneh’s deal sets the benchmark for the industry rather than the deal struck in June by Tan Sri Quek Leng Chan’s Hong Leong Group. Mitsui Sumitomo Insurance Co Ltd took a 30% stake in Hong Leong Assurance at 6.5 times price-to-book ratio based on a merged valuation of both the life and general insurance businesses.

Smaller general insurers have appeared on the radar screens of the bigger organisations this year as the industry continues to consolidate.

“The bigger players – mainly foreign owned ones – are looking actively at potential acquisitions. This is to help out with the consolidation of the industry as encouraged by BNM as well as to grow at the same time,” noted a senior officer at a local insurance company.

In April last year, BNM liberalised the insurance sector and announced that, to further strengthen the resilience and competitiveness of the insurance and takaful industry, insurance companies and takaful operators had been given greater flexibility to tie up with foreign partners. Accordingly, the foreign equity participation in insurance companies and takaful operators was increased to a limit of up to 70%. Interestingly, BNM added that a higher foreign-equity limit beyond 70% for insurance companies would be considered on a case-by-case basis for players who can facilitate consolidation and rationalisation of the insurance industry.

This year alone, there has been two major equity deals involving foreign insurers with listed companies that have local general insurance businesses. The two deals aside, PacificMas Bhd is currently working on the disposal of its insurance business to Canadian insurer Fairfax Asia Ltd. On Sept 3, PacificMas submitted an application to BNM for the approval to enter into a definitive shares sale agreement with Fairfax. The outcome of the approval is still pending.

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yea..P&O still got its value..
dont speculate..
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QUOTE(kv165 @ Nov 16 2010, 09:17 PM)
Hi! All taikor here, need your help in IT matter.
I am trying to access my HLeB using a new laptop( using window 7 home, IE8)  but some how the share platform screen only show around 3 quater of the stock screen, and I can only see the "buy" button and small part of the "order" button, the "sell" button is totally disappeared. I have tried log off and on many times but still facing same problem.
Any taikor here has any idea how to overcome this ?.
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What about other browser like Firefox?
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Nov 16 2010, 09:49 PM)
What about other browser like Firefox?
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HLB only support the use of IE. Have you turned the compatibility view on in IE 8?
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Nov 16 2010, 09:49 PM)
What about other browser like Firefox?
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No idea, haven't try that. Maybe will give it a try tomorrow.
When I first loaded the HLeB page and downloaded the files from HLeB, my display setting was 1366/768 , can that be the culprit?
Any idea how I can reload those software that HLeB automatically downloaded to our computer ?


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QUOTE(chyaw @ Nov 16 2010, 08:44 PM)
I like my Hupseng results.  biggrin.gif
my Faber, not bad too.  tongue.gif
but share price...  shakehead.gif
Its (Faber) share price is taking a beating coz Universal Trustee has been selling shares on the mkt almost every day. I wonder whether it has anything to do with the mkt chatter that their concession for East Malaysia might not be renewed hmm.gif

On a side note, are you still holding RCE Capital? unsure.gif


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 16 2010, 07:36 PM)
Sharing more positive news  icon_rolleyes.gif

Oil and Gas in Malaysia  seems to attract quite a lot of long term foreign investors. We could be in important Oil & Service Hub in the making.

The government is working closely with Petroliam Nasional Bhd to draw up incentives for industry players to optimise the nation's oil output, and in the process boost the industry and set the stage for Malaysia to emerge as a pivotal regional hub for oilfield services.
Schlumberger is a leading supplier of TECHNOLOGY [], integrated project management and information solutions to customers working in the oil and gas industry worldwide. Schlumberger's financial hub and Asian headquarters here.
Yeah rite. If you dig the technical reports, Oil & Gas reserve can last for less than 30 years from now. Cost are skyrocketing and we are exploring deepwater.

To build, then to market a pivotal hub means another 20 years work. By the time comes, it will be like Singapork all over. Aiyo. I can see where this is heading. Will be another mega-failure like MSC/Cyberjaya thingy.


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QUOTE(kv165 @ Nov 16 2010, 09:57 PM)
No idea, haven't try that. Maybe will give it a try tomorrow.
When I first loaded the HLeB page and downloaded the files from HLeB, my display setting was 1366/768 , can that be the culprit?
Any idea how I can reload those software that HLeB automatically downloaded to our computer ?
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Try reduce the size of that portal.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 16 2010, 07:13 PM)
There is no right or wrong timing in stocks. If you hold fundamentally strong counters, recent pullback should not scare you. Although my portfolio drop about 1% today, it is still ok. After all, I have already have 30% profit realized and my portfolio still showing paper gain, just slightly lower. I see that most of the high risk counters drop more than the lower risk one....and I have exposure about 50-50, so, to me, this pullback, just reload your bullets and then get ready to SHOOT, like me, realized gain from some counters since last week, so now actually hoping for it to drop a little, especially those counters that I'm aiming  brows.gif  brows.gif
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can share what are those counters you are aiming and what target price you think can buy?
TQ
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QUOTE(mopster @ Nov 16 2010, 06:48 PM)
Another baby... Paramon.. good result eh~~~

~No divvy declared.. special divvy definitely coming, just wait for EGM on 18th Nov, this thursday~~
~Jerneh sales proceeds not included in this report..
~Lower revenue/earnings due to Surian Industrial Park. Preceding qtr has 'lock in sales' from Kemuning Utama & Surian that contributed more to earnings.
~Cashflow no problem. Cash pile up by 5M in last 3 months, after deducting the divvy
~Board sounds confident rclxms.gif
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manyak nice.

first 3q already 55.22 EPS vs projected FY10 57.8 from Rhb . blush.gif blush.gif

EPS 15.000 -> 13.160 -> 14.020 -> 22.660 -> 18.54

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 16 2010, 10:39 PM)
Try reduce the size of that portal.
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rclxub.gif don't understand. You mean reducing the display size? I tried that and it makes no difference. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 16 2010, 06:37 PM)
Hmm should i lighten up.....?
I'm joining trading in the wrong time..... cry.gif , thinking to pull all out and buy back when market is stablize
Will see what happend on thursday again and decide
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it's ok i used to get very tense and nervous whenever markets turn against me.

always have confidence in your choices. pull out the speculative ones if you feel they've run out of steam.
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QUOTE(kv165 @ Nov 16 2010, 11:18 PM)
rclxub.gif don't understand. You mean reducing the display size? I tried that and it makes no difference. icon_question.gif
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Reduce the size of that small black window, because from what I see, your portal size has increased. I'm not talking about browser zoom or display setting nod.gif

Thought want to show you but HL-B website will be down until 2am later. Hate it vmad.gif

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