English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, 11/11 City v United, 03:54 ESPN | Derby!
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 Oct 31 2010, 10:52 PM
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he fell down a lil bit too slow la, need to improve on his baiting skill...when u got the fish on the hook and u wait too long to reel it in, u lose the fish
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Nov 1 2010, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(corez @ Oct 31 2010, 08:01 AM) Then we score 5 in the second half. touche'~~   corez knows when to pop that perfect response.QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 31 2010, 12:42 PM) One of the most bizarre goal we ever had! hohho wch is werider??the goal today or the roy inside goal save~ Although the players should had play by the whistle but the referee & linesman have to share the blame as well. They got 2 key decisions wrong which were the penalty claim which was a legit claim and the handball by Nani which should had been a freekick for Spurs. Yet neither were given and somehow bizarrely Clatternburg allow the play to go on. Good to see our flank players (Evra, Park, Rafael, Nani) managed to shutdown Bale and Lennon quite effectively.  QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 31 2010, 02:20 PM) i remember robbie keane did a similar thing once so why spurs so butthurt? and shearer for that matter.a lot of players down the leagues history have scored on the account of the keepers mistakes.  |
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Nov 1 2010, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Nov 1 2010, 12:06 AM) touche'~~ corez knows when to pop that perfect response.hohho wch is werider??the goal today or the roy inside goal save~ and shearer for that matter.a lot of players down the leagues history have scored on the account of the keepers mistakes.  |
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Nov 1 2010, 01:46 AM
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Win a few more like this, we'll get back to how we're suppose to play. It's close.
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Nov 1 2010, 02:03 AM
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On Nani's incident;
When the interviewer guy asked Harry Redknapp what's your view, he replied "It's a handball". Then guy should've asked, was it a penalty? If Harry reply "No, the referee didn't point to the spot". Then the guy should say "So it wasn't a handball coz the referee didn't say so"  |
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Nov 1 2010, 02:12 AM
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it's on guys!
we r goin to win the league. oh wai. |
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Nov 1 2010, 02:26 AM
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good game! Park back to his best. If want to be picky, Carrick... hmmm, better, but overall midfield still less than convincing. But looks like the team is heading in the right direction formwise, hope they keep it up!
Zealots that think that there is no need to bring in anyone ever, because must have faith in the team whatever it is... if SAF follows your thinking, Man Utd will not be the team it is today. I still think even if carrick, fletch and ando improve their form, the midfield would still benefit from a credible new signing. Barring any surprise mecurial improvement from Ando, or the other midfield guard, don't think SAF doesn't think the same, its just that he can't get the signing he wants at the right price. But I think come what may next summer he'll have to get someone in. Lalang memang ada lalang, muppets memang ada muppets. But zealots like to see lalangs and muppets even where there are none. That is just as amusing to the more even-headed fans. Cheers! Added on November 1, 2010, 2:27 am QUOTE(Wan @ Nov 1 2010, 01:46 AM) Win a few more like this, we'll get back to how we're suppose to play. It's close. Fully agree! Close... but not quite yet.Let's enjoy the victory, but let's not get carried away either. This post has been edited by coochiecoochie: Nov 1 2010, 02:29 AM |
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Nov 1 2010, 04:21 AM
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Depends how you look at it. Some see the need to spend and not give time to those already at the club. Some see(or more likely trust the view of SAF) the current ability and potential of those already at the club and thinks it's good enough and will show improvement over the years.
A lot can change in a space of a few months. After a barren few years, we won back the league with only Carrick as a new signing back in 06. And we did it after selling Ruud and missing Saha for half a season. And the previous season we got knocked out early in the CL, Keano left, and we were forced to field O'Shea-Giggs in the middle from then on after Scholes missed the latter half of that season through eye injury. Best in form team of the latter half of that 05/06 season. 05/06-Keano(OLD), Scholes(OFF FORM), Fletcher(young, inconsistent, not good enough at the time), Smith(not a midfielder) Now-Scholes, Giggs(OLD), Carrick(OFF FORM), Ando, Gibson(young, inconsistent, not good enough). In a way right now it's a bit like that situation. Only differences is it's far better situation right now. The old is still performing at a good level, we have Fletcher to cover the 'consistent' player hole(although slightly out of form right now) and in Ando we have a far better developing midfielder. If Carrick and Fletcher find their form again, we'll really have a solid base that is a match for any midfield. It's proven. They're just out of form, although with Carrick it could be more than that if he doesn't find it this season. Ando will improve. He is Scholes' replacement. He will just play in a different way. He is already a very good player playing at a decent-good level. What we need to see is him growing up and putting up those lovely dominating performances more like in his first season. We spent big bucks on him and like with Nani, we'll stick with him. He's not even 23 yet. Gibson need a lot more to work and improve on, but he can be a useful if not good squad player for us. And in midfield, age is pretty important. Once they get to 25, you'll see a different player. They would be able to play with confidencce, authority and consistency that they haven't shown before. That would make a big difference in their performances. If Carrick is still playing in hiding mode come the end of the season, we will likely look to bring someone else in. We know he's a good player. He has performed consistently well since he came here, except for last season. This season will be a test to see whether last season is just a blip or something more than that like what happened with Yorke. With Hargreaves it's just a matter of how healthy he is. One last chance for him and if it doesn't happen for him, we'll look to get someone to play his role, or more likely someone who can backup Fletcher. Move around a lot, and harass opponents constantly. The likes of Giggs and Scholes will stay for at least one more season if they end the season well. That will also play a part whether we like it or not. Veteran: Scholes, Giggs Senior: Carrick, Fletcher, Developing: Ando, Gibson But after saying all that, it will be very interesting to see how things would pan out regarding Schweinsteiger's contract situation which expires next summer(?). I hope we would be interested if he is available especially if it gets to next summer and he's available on a free. The likes of City and Chelsea will come sniffing around as well. That deep lying role that Scholes and Carrick plays currently will be covered nicely by him. This post has been edited by Wan: Nov 1 2010, 04:24 AM |
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Nov 1 2010, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(Wan @ Nov 1 2010, 04:21 AM) But after saying all that, it will be very interesting to see how things would pan out regarding Schweinsteiger's contract situation which expires next summer(?). I hope we would be interested if he is available especially if it gets to next summer and he's available on a free. The likes of City and Chelsea will come sniffing around as well. That deep lying role that Scholes and Carrick plays currently will be covered nicely by him. |
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Nov 1 2010, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(coochiecoochie @ Nov 1 2010, 02:26 AM) good game! Park back to his best. If want to be picky, Carrick... hmmm, better, but overall midfield still less than convincing. But looks like the team is heading in the right direction formwise, hope they keep it up! I could easily reply "muppets that think that there is a need to bring in stars, because our current crop in the team whatever it is... if SAF follows your thinking, Man Utd will not be the team it is today."Zealots that think that there is no need to bring in anyone ever, because must have faith in the team whatever it is... if SAF follows your thinking, Man Utd will not be the team it is today. I still think even if carrick, fletch and ando improve their form, the midfield would still benefit from a credible new signing. Barring any surprise mecurial improvement from Ando, or the other midfield guard, don't think SAF doesn't think the same, its just that he can't get the signing he wants at the right price. But I think come what may next summer he'll have to get someone in. Lalang memang ada lalang, muppets memang ada muppets. But zealots like to see lalangs and muppets even where there are none. That is just as amusing to the more even-headed fans. Cheers! Added on November 1, 2010, 2:27 am Fully agree! Close... but not quite yet. Let's enjoy the victory, but let's not get carried away either. Wan explained it nicely. Can you comprehend it? Wan even took the liberty explaining on our tactical plays. We have abundance of talents. Take Fletcher's case for an example. He was SHIT back then. I was among those cruficied him to death whenever he played. It took me(and lots of ppl) sometime to realize that SAF knows best. SAF knows that we don't need marquee signings all the time. He works with the staffs that work with the players all year, everyday, almost 24/7. I don't know if you know, it is our tradition to unearth gems as well as mix them with established players. That's the BIG difference between us and Arsenal. Which is also, one of the differences between us with the likes of Chelsea, City and Real. I have no problems with marquee signings. Who wouldn't want BIG names to play for Manchester United. Then again, we are not Real Madrid. We are not Chelsea or City. We have the money. Yes, we got our own money from our successes on and off the field. But, with marquee signings as well, we would face problems. Take a good look at a certain Mr. Wayne Rooney. If the reports are true, his wages are somewhat high. We are already in a lot of debt. Not that I am saying that SAF doesn't have the kitty. We always have. At least around 20-30m. So, if those big names would join us, do you think that they would like to have Tevez's wages or Park's wages? Which one do you reckon? That being said, wouldn't it cause disharmony in the dressing room? Plus, these kind of players normally have their own BIG ego. So, before posting and drooling over big names, or having tantrums just because we missed out on certain players, think again. What is the tradition of the club? Are you the manager? Does this player could fit onto our tactical plays? Most importantly, how much faith do I have in the current team? How much faith I have in the manager? And the players? If you want to support teams that have big names in them, you could always change your team to Real or City and maybe Chelsea. Even Chelsea started slowing down in buying stars. Why is that? Anyway, just remember. Manchester United isn't about that. Manchester United is about traditions. We have a colorful history besides Liverpool. People tend to forget about that. Well, if you have the time, go read some. This post has been edited by boxsystem: Nov 1 2010, 08:38 AM |
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Nov 1 2010, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Nov 1 2010, 08:36 AM) I could easily reply "muppets that think that there is a need to bring in stars, because our current crop in the team whatever it is... if SAF follows your thinking, Man Utd will not be the team it is today." Remember when Fletcher was shit? Yeah, Wan explained it nicely. Can you comprehend it? Wan even took the liberty explaining on our tactical plays. We have abundance of talents. Take Fletcher's case for an example. He was SHIT back then. I was among those cruficied him to death whenever he played. It took me(and lots of ppl) sometime to realize that SAF knows best. SAF knows that we don't need marquee signings all the time. He works with the staffs that work with the players all year, everyday, almost 24/7. I don't know if you know, it is our tradition to unearth gems as well as mix them with established players. That's the BIG difference between us and Arsenal. Which is also, one of the differences between us with the likes of Chelsea, City and Real. I have no problems with marquee signings. Who wouldn't want BIG names to play for Manchester United. Then again, we are not Real Madrid. We are not Chelsea or City. We have the money. Yes, we got our own money from our successes on and off the field. But, with marquee signings as well, we would face problems. Take a good look at a certain Mr. Wayne Rooney. If the reports are true, his wages are somewhat high. We are already in a lot of debt. Not that I am saying that SAF doesn't have the kitty. We always have. At least around 20-30m. So, if those big names would join us, do you think that they would like to have Tevez's wages or Park's wages? Which one do you reckon? That being said, wouldn't it cause disharmony in the dressing room? Plus, these kind of players normally have their own BIG ego. So, before posting and drooling over big names, or having tantrums just because we missed out on certain players, think again. What is the tradition of the club? Are you the manager? Does this player could fit onto our tactical plays? Most importantly, how much faith do I have in the current team? How much faith I have in the manager? And the players? If you want to support teams that have big names in them, you could always change your team to Real or City and maybe Chelsea. Even Chelsea started slowing down in buying stars. Why is that? Anyway, just remember. Manchester United isn't about that. Manchester United is about traditions. We have a colorful history besides Liverpool. People tend to forget about that. Well, if you have the time, go read some. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « It's the same way I look at Gibson now though, he probably sucks now but wonder if he's another Fletcher MKII in the making, only time will tell Also hell yeah Park he's back to what he is at least for now  |
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Nov 1 2010, 09:13 AM
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just now when i was driving home from a night shift, some butthurt spurs fans making a noise on the radio, calling nani as "opportunist" and "cheater".WTH. why can't they accept the lose and move on to the next game? it's been almost 2 days already.
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Nov 1 2010, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Nov 1 2010, 09:08 AM) Remember when Fletcher was shit? Yeah, We always claimed that Fletch is SAF's *******. LOL.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « It's the same way I look at Gibson now though, he probably sucks now but wonder if he's another Fletcher MKII in the making, only time will tell Also hell yeah Park he's back to what he is at least for now Wan would always defend the chap. I am ashamed of myself  |
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Nov 1 2010, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 31 2010, 06:28 PM) what a biased commentator lol He's a Tottenham fan. Normally, he's level headed. This time, well, you know lar.  I don't blame him. Sudah jatuh ditimpa tangga. QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Oct 31 2010, 08:02 PM) http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6478629,00.html He is currently negotiating a new contract with Bayern, so to me, this is just a ploy to raise his wages.you are welcome anytime to man utd, Schweinsteiger QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 31 2010, 08:03 PM) that's why. excel sheet samo. *sing to the tune of my siggy again*  QUOTE(coochiecoochie @ Nov 1 2010, 02:26 AM) good game! Park back to his best. If want to be picky, Carrick... hmmm, better, but overall midfield still less than convincing. But looks like the team is heading in the right direction formwise, hope they keep it up! When the going gets tough, the tough get going. If SAF feels the need to buy big, he will buy big. SAF does not buy simply because someone in a forum thinks he should buy. Zealots that think that there is no need to bring in anyone ever, because must have faith in the team whatever it is... if SAF follows your thinking, Man Utd will not be the team it is today. I still think even if carrick, fletch and ando improve their form, the midfield would still benefit from a credible new signing. Barring any surprise mecurial improvement from Ando, or the other midfield guard, don't think SAF doesn't think the same, its just that he can't get the signing he wants at the right price. But I think come what may next summer he'll have to get someone in. Lalang memang ada lalang, muppets memang ada muppets. But zealots like to see lalangs and muppets even where there are none. That is just as amusing to the more even-headed fans. Cheers! Added on November 1, 2010, 2:27 am Fully agree! Close... but not quite yet. Let's enjoy the victory, but let's not get carried away either. The next 2 seasons will be the key seasons. When the old guard leaves, SAF will reassess the squad to see if there is a hole in the squad and if the youngsters have stepped up to the plate. If he feels there is a hole and his options are expensive, then he will buy big. But then is then. Now is now. SAF hasn't bought big simply because he feels there is no need to do so with the current squad. When you look at the current squad, there is a good blend of youth and experience. He will give these youth a chance to step up and he will see if the off form/injured players can return to their best. Then in the next 2 years, we will see. |
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Nov 1 2010, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Oct 31 2010, 11:04 PM) there's nothing grey about the goal. the ref never blew the whistle. simple as... there's noting wrong with the goal - it's the rules mate as i've said it. |
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Nov 1 2010, 09:54 AM
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The Incredible Rise Of Luis Nani
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Source Let's recap Nani performance in man utd shirt. This post has been edited by leongtat: Nov 1 2010, 09:55 AM |
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Nov 1 2010, 10:07 AM
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We cant expect 5-6 signings now, and discredit the current players we have. we are not City, simple as that. We don't buy players and force them to say it is their dream to play for United, and we dont ship off our academy-to-first-team-player to other clubs as part of an exchange for a "greater" one. Any signings will definitely be getting the approval of SAF. If he says no, then it's a no. Don't conjure up some Benzema while forgetting that we already have 7 strikers currently in our team or loaned out
 And another thing is, dun butthurt when we dun sign a player, and that player played well. "Oh we should have signed VDV". He is signed by Tottenham, he played brilliantly, its good for him and i wish him best of luck. We move on. Personally, i would have love it if Ozil were to come to United as speculated earlier, but he chose Madrid instead and for him, seems like a good decision. other player performed well with other teams doesnt mean they will perform well with us. That being said, we gotta explore options too. We gotta think, "What type of players, and examples, will be good for United?" for example Wan said Schweini does fit into the Scholes' CM role quite nicely and i kinda agree. If you think there's a player that is worth signing, explain and reflect a bit la how can he contribute to the club and how will be blend in. "He's on form" is not a valid argument  But i think seniors oso need to cut it some slack...no harm in fantasizing a bit. if those people are called transfer muppets, then what about those who daydream about Bebe scoring hattrick every single game? Youngster muppets?  |
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Nov 1 2010, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Nov 1 2010, 10:07 AM) We cant expect 5-6 signings now, and discredit the current players we have. we are not City, simple as that. We don't buy players and force them to say it is their dream to play for United, and we dont ship off our academy-to-first-team-player to other clubs as part of an exchange for a "greater" one. Any signings will definitely be getting the approval of SAF. If he says no, then it's a no. Don't conjure up some Benzema while forgetting that we already have 7 strikers currently in our team or loaned out No harm in fantasizing players coming in. But it is ridiculous when you're discrediting your own players and said this/that player would do so much better with us. muppets, given to those been dreaming that [insert-names] should join us. again, as you have mentioned, without proper explanations on why. And another thing is, dun butthurt when we dun sign a player, and that player played well. "Oh we should have signed VDV". He is signed by Tottenham, he played brilliantly, its good for him and i wish him best of luck. We move on. Personally, i would have love it if Ozil were to come to United as speculated earlier, but he chose Madrid instead and for him, seems like a good decision. other player performed well with other teams doesnt mean they will perform well with us. That being said, we gotta explore options too. We gotta think, "What type of players, and examples, will be good for United?" for example Wan said Schweini does fit into the Scholes' CM role quite nicely and i kinda agree. If you think there's a player that is worth signing, explain and reflect a bit la how can he contribute to the club and how will be blend in. "He's on form" is not a valid argument But i think seniors oso need to cut it some slack...no harm in fantasizing a bit. if those people are called transfer muppets, then what about those who daydream about Bebe scoring hattrick every single game? Youngster muppets? simply just because the player has abilities, we should sign him. that's always the case. then the cycle repeats itself. basically, it's trust and faith are needed. Trust the team and SAF. that's all. I could easily point out week after week on how our current crop being heavily criticized and should be replaced. |
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Nov 1 2010, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Nov 1 2010, 10:07 AM) We cant expect 5-6 signings now, and discredit the current players we have. we are not City, simple as that. We don't buy players and force them to say it is their dream to play for United, and we dont ship off our academy-to-first-team-player to other clubs as part of an exchange for a "greater" one. Any signings will definitely be getting the approval of SAF. If he says no, then it's a no. Don't conjure up some Benzema while forgetting that we already have 7 strikers currently in our team or loaned out You've got some excellent points there. And I don't think I have any issues with fans scouting for players, etc. And another thing is, dun butthurt when we dun sign a player, and that player played well. "Oh we should have signed VDV". He is signed by Tottenham, he played brilliantly, its good for him and i wish him best of luck. We move on. Personally, i would have love it if Ozil were to come to United as speculated earlier, but he chose Madrid instead and for him, seems like a good decision. other player performed well with other teams doesnt mean they will perform well with us. That being said, we gotta explore options too. We gotta think, "What type of players, and examples, will be good for United?" for example Wan said Schweini does fit into the Scholes' CM role quite nicely and i kinda agree. If you think there's a player that is worth signing, explain and reflect a bit la how can he contribute to the club and how will be blend in. "He's on form" is not a valid argument But i think seniors oso need to cut it some slack...no harm in fantasizing a bit. if those people are called transfer muppets, then what about those who daydream about Bebe scoring hattrick every single game? Youngster muppets? For me, I just wanted to emphasize that at the end of the day, the decision lies with SAF. I am emphasizing this reminder because that is something a lot of people seem to forget. Then when things don't go their way, all kinds of frustration boil over leading to disrespect of the players and the manager. I've seen far too much abuse on players like Nani, Fletcher, and Berbatov. Even SAF. |
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Nov 1 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Nov 1 2010, 10:35 AM) You've got some excellent points there. And I don't think I have any issues with fans scouting for players, etc. This. For me, I just wanted to emphasize that at the end of the day, the decision lies with SAF. I am emphasizing this reminder because that is something a lot of people seem to forget. Then when things don't go their way, all kinds of frustration boil over leading to disrespect of the players and the manager. I've seen far too much abuse on players like Nani, Fletcher, and Berbatov. Even SAF.  |
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