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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, 11/11 City v United, 03:54 ESPN | Derby!

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post Oct 31 2010, 02:09 PM

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hd i dunno. but now got replay on 817.
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post Oct 31 2010, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(nazseha @ Oct 31 2010, 04:19 AM)
Gomes set up a free kick, Nani took the free kick,Nani scored the free kick.lul.  tongue.gif
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i remember robbie keane did a similar thing once so why spurs so butthurt?

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post Oct 31 2010, 02:29 PM

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haha. if you look at the replay back, once gomez put down the ball scholes did shout game on! and thats when nani run to the ball
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With 20 minutes played, Gareth Bale ran the ball out of play but the linesman somehow missed it. They were awarded a corner as a result, which United cleared.

With the Spurs players going mad that the 2nd goal against them stood six minutes from time, Rio Ferdinand said to William Gallas: “If you had scored when the ball went out in the first half would you say ‘no goal, the ball was out’? No! It was handball by Nani but the ref didn’t blow so how can it be a free kick? If it’s a free kick, why did Gomes put the ball 10 yards away from incident?”

We know they wouldn’t admit the ball was out of play if they went on to score because they quite happily continued on with play, despite knowing they should have conceded a goal kick. The same linesman who missed what should have been a goal kick also didn’t flag when he saw Nani touch the ball with his hand.

Anyone who thinks Nani shouldn’t have put the ball in the back of the net, when Gomes put the ball on a plate for him, is kidding themselves. Nani knew he had been fouled in the box and no penalty had been awarded. He also knew that he had touched the ball with his hand and no freekick had been given. So, what was he expected to do when Gomes assisted a goal for him?%0

The fact that Gomes picked the ball up and threw it 10 yards from where the handball had occurred was just a minor detail. As was Rio Ferdinand’s permission to listen in to the referee’s conversation with the linesman, after the ranting Spurs players had been waved away.

But the underlining factor here is that footballers do whatever they think they can get away with to give their team a better chance of winning. And would the fans have it any other way?

When Younes Kaboul pulled on Nani’s shirt in the box, he did it because he thought he could get away with it (which he did) and because he knew it would give his team a better chance of winning if he fouled Nani in a goalscoring position. No penalty was awarded so Spurs will have been glad of his quick tug.

Just like Palacios thought breaking Ronaldo’s leg would put Spurs in a better position to win the game two seasons ago. Fortuntely Ronaldo jumped out of the way, but the player got away without even a booking, let alone the red card his challenge on 6 minutes deserved.

When Mike Dean allowed Tom Huddlestone’s winner against Fulham to stand two weeks ago, after the linesman had correctly flagged William Gallas offside, did the Spurs players protest? Did the Spurs fans? Of course not. They will have been very happy that an officiating error gifted them a win against another London club.

When Stoke City had a perfectly legitimate goal ruled out at the beginning of the season, with Peter Crouch’s attempts to keep it out failing, did Spurs protest? Did they confess that actually the ball had crossed the line and that they didn’t deserve their 2-1 result and three points? Unsurprisingly, no. They smiled sweetly at Chris Foy then got out of that shit hole as fast as they could.

We could go on and on, looking at results teams get because of poor decisions by the officials and dishonesty of players, but what purpose does it serve? On two occasions already this season, with just ten games played, Spurs have picked up three points when they should have collected just one.

Which is why their controversial goals differ from the one that was scored today. Essentially, 1-0? 2-0? What difference does it make? Spurs didn’t score a goal whilst United scored two, one fair and square and one in controversial circumstances. Would it have been better if one had been scored from a penalty from a tug of the shirt in the box? It’s irrelevant.

You can’t help but notice that Spurs are becoming the Liverpool of the south, whining about everything that goes against them whilst holding an oblivious stance to everything that goes in their favour.

Shall we get out the black armbands for their next visit?

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/rios-very...-for-tottenham/
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 31 2010, 12:42 PM)
One of the most bizarre goal we ever had!  laugh.gif

Although the players should had play by the whistle but the referee & linesman have to share the blame as well. They got 2 key decisions wrong which were the penalty claim which was a legit claim and the handball by Nani which should had been a freekick for Spurs. Yet neither were given and somehow bizarrely Clatternburg allow the play to go on.

Good to see our flank players (Evra, Park, Rafael, Nani) managed to shutdown Bale and Lennon quite effectively.
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I've been watching the replays. I have to say the person who screwed up would be Gomes. Always play to the whistle.

The ref presumably played advantage to Gomes, but Gomes assumed he had the free kick. Therefore when he let go of the ball, the ball was already in play. If you look at the replay, there was no whistle or flag raised the entire time. The ref kept hands behind back (for no penalty) and then waved play on the entire time.

I agree the penalty should have been awarded in the first place, though.

QUOTE(khelben @ Oct 31 2010, 12:50 PM)
Gomes was really blur la laugh.gif Kesian him also, ref just had to make things so confusing.
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I don't think the ref was wrong. I think the linesman was stupid though. He did absolutely nothing the entire time and then 10 seconds after Nani scores, he raises the flag for handball. Like WTF?

QUOTE(maxizanc @ Oct 31 2010, 12:54 PM)
Such an opportunist Nani was. Me likey. tongue.gif
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Not just Nani. Scholes and Fletcher were like screaming for Nani to kick the ball. laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2010, 04:19 PM

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just looked at the replay.. gomes was wrong. but the ref also should charge a hand ball on nani.
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QUOTE(hellriser @ Oct 31 2010, 04:19 PM)
just looked at the replay.. gomes was wrong. but the ref also should charge a hand ball on nani.
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he waved advantage to Tottenham, so no whistle there...only thing is Gomes blur and didn't notice it
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QUOTE(hellriser @ Oct 31 2010, 04:19 PM)
just looked at the replay.. gomes was wrong. but the ref also should charge a hand ball on nani.
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the ref should also give a penalty for a foul on Nani
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post Oct 31 2010, 04:34 PM

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there is a lot of should haves and should have nots. The fact is, these referee blunders happen all the time and normally is just played on..i mean, how many times a player is fouled but no penalty given? or a handball goes unnoticed? normally it doesnt cause significant results so people din talk bout it. Now that it turned into a goal, people goes hoohaa over it.

the fact is everyone should know the most important thing: play to the ref's whistle. Nani did, Gomez did not. Referee's error is another totally different issue and has always been if u ask me...all the blunders and errors for or against us, as well as other teams.


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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 31 2010, 04:34 PM)
there is a lot of should haves and should have nots. The fact is, these referee blunders happen all the time and normally is just played on..i mean, how many times a player is fouled but no penalty given? or a handball goes unnoticed? normally it doesnt cause significant results so people din talk bout it. Now that it turned into a goal, people goes hoohaa over it.

the fact is everyone should know the most important thing: play to the ref's whistle. Nani did, Gomez did not. Referee's error is another totally different issue and has always been if u ask me...all the blunders and errors for or against us, as well as other teams.
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and again the reaction was exaggerated because its IN United's favor, and it happens AT Old Trafford
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Oct 31 2010, 04:38 PM)
and again the reaction was exaggerated because its IN United's favor, and it happens AT Old Trafford
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exactly...we just have to get used to those ABUs saying "ref gives United win or ref is the 12th men etc" everytime there's a controversy..when drogba scored the offside goal at OT last season there wasn't even such an outburst from us United fans
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Oct 31 2010, 04:38 PM)
and again the reaction was exaggerated because its IN United's favor, and it happens AT Old Trafford
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where's the like button???? laugh.gif
haters gonna hate no matter what.
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post Oct 31 2010, 04:52 PM

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i wonder got nightmare or not?
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 31 2010, 04:52 PM)
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i wonder got nightmare or not?
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please...that's disturbing shakehead.gif
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post Oct 31 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 31 2010, 04:34 PM)
there is a lot of should haves and should have nots. The fact is, these referee blunders happen all the time and normally is just played on..i mean, how many times a player is fouled but no penalty given? or a handball goes unnoticed? normally it doesnt cause significant results so people din talk bout it. Now that it turned into a goal, people goes hoohaa over it.

the fact is everyone should know the most important thing: play to the ref's whistle. Nani did, Gomez did not. Referee's error is another totally different issue and has always been if u ask me...all the blunders and errors for or against us, as well as other teams.
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Reminds me of that offside goal of Drogba and allegedly handball by Carrick. LOL.

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why bother explaining nani's goal hahaah .. really kelakar la.
goal in liao end of liao. england lost a valid goal. same also. whats the difference? nani just scored a goal that the keeper let go. thats all. fat ronaldo did that alot of times too ma haha
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U guys should watch the whole incident + MOTM pundits discussing it, full with lip-reading service by one of them laugh.gif

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfglxh_ma...m-hotspur_sport
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that incident aside,we win the game pretty convincingly especially the 2nd half

clearly both winger did the diagonal cut runs and gives trouble to their fullbacks.if there's one thing i want to point out,that would be Berbatov and Chicharito not working together(it's like they're taking turns instead of running the ball and the defenders at the same time)

besides them spurs playing attacking football as well and we rarely see team doing that this season
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I would take it with a pinch of salt. SAF know that by declaring he is out to get someone in January, the price is bound to go up. Plus the last time he said we are done with transfers, we end up signing Bebe not long after that! laugh.gif

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