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post Aug 29 2008, 04:07 PM

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hi guys.. any1 cud help me where can i get digidesign products in kl?
actually i 12 buy Mbox 2 Mini.... hope sm1 cud help me. thx!

Try calling this guy Vincent at 0123839854. got it from a friend. he distributes digidesign.

as namqul suggested, midispecialist http://www.midispecialist.com/Pricelist.html
i find their prices abit steep though



QUOTE(evalshtog @ Aug 29 2008, 01:08 AM)
how much is behringer?


Added on August 29, 2008, 1:14 amis there anything like this?
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or do u know where i can get this lightsnake guitar-usb cable?
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for the behringer, try PM burgercis. he is in this forums and he sells things.
i found his price list at
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lazy to list down all his price, but heres some
Passive DI400p at 120
passive DI600P at 175
DI-20 at 170
G100 at 220
DI100 at 234


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post Mar 9 2009, 01:53 PM

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what space do you have (room space, how much noise you're allowed to create in that environment)? budget? and what type of recordings do you plan to do?


Added on March 9, 2009, 1:53 pmwhat you need?
you need alot of money, and knowledge.

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post Mar 11 2009, 07:13 PM

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once again, it would help if you state:
1. budget
2. your rough plan of your setup.
eg: you could go for an audio interface + mic + midi keyboard setup
3. type of music you are doing

as for the jason mraz style. my recommendation is
1 audio interface (m-audio probably costing around RM400+) and maybe a Taming Sari condenser mic (RM399). add in abit of money more for a cheap microphone stand and an XLR cable.
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post Mar 12 2009, 05:40 PM

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rm10k isnt that much actually.

are u familiar using softwares? i would recommend that over recorders as little ice suggested. those are more for just laying ideas down. if you plan to seriously record and edit, the software route is more recommended (ex: you can multitrack with a click track, monitoring with effects, etc). as far as recording in stereo is concerned, thats not really THAT crucial even in a proper recording studio. alot of things are recorded in mono and then layered or panned. only instruments like a grand piano would then be stereo mic'd (and also using diff mics at diff mic'ing techniques, but thats another story). you can always use 2 mic's and with the proper mic'ing technique and angle capture things in real stereo, however, usually (but not always) a ribbon mic is used in this situation.

this is my setup suggestion: (not inclusive of any instruments and your computer)
1. audio interface - m-audio profire 610 (RM1.6k) or profire 2626 (not sure of pricing, probably RM2.5k). the former has 6 inputs 10 outputs while the latter has 26inputs and 26 outputs. dont be tricked by the 610, it has 6 inputs:2 XLR/TS input, 2 quarter inch jack inputs, and ONE stereo (so thats considered as two) SPDIF/in. you wont be able to use all 6 simultaneously and chances are you need to use the XLR/TS as thats the only 2 inputs that has the mic preamp and phantom power. spdif is useless unless you already have a seperate mic preamp with that output or u are a DJ and want to output from your DJ gear.
2. microphones - MYMIC Taming Sari (RM399) condenser mics (which has really good reviews and is really cheap) or the Audio Technica AT2020 condenser (which is more popular home studio mic, since theyre a bigger company too). two condensers, in case you want to record in stereo or apply more complex mic'ing techniques (like an acoustic guitar stereo imaging). then you can get 2 units of the SHURE SM57. these are really good multi purpose mics, (ranging from mic'ing drums to percussions to mic'ing guitar amps). price im not too sure but probably around RM450 each).
3. controller - M-audio axiom 49 (Rm1250) or axiom 61 (RM1.5k). theres also the axiom pro thats recently out which is better. why i recommend the axiom is that it has most of the controllers you need. not only does it function as a keyboard controller for your virtual instruments, it has transport buttons (woohooo!!! for your DAW controls), knobs + faders and EVEN PADS (so you dont have to buy additional gear like the finger trigger) to use to program things like drums. so basically this 'kao tim' any controller needs. all in one, for a really cheap price (and quality is good too as i've owned the 25 and 49 series before).
4. modellers - Line 6 pod x3 live (rm1.9k). now you dont have the money to get great amps so here's a great solution. nothing beats the real thing, but with modelling 95% of people wouldnt be able to tell the difference. x3 also has bass amp modelling and i think (not too sure) it has one or two mic preamp models. (but then again, the octane preamps that comes with the m-audio profire interface is good enough imo).
5. studio monitors - okay this one generally can cost you a bomb. you can start out with a KRK rockit pair of 5inch for RM1250. however, i've mixed with these before and it doesnt really seem to give an exact picture so if you get those, bundle it with the KRK subwoofers (RM1.6k). dont get me wrong, these rockits seem to be one of the best for a price that low.
6. DAW - pro tools m-powered 8 (rm1350). isnt the fullfledge digidesign pro tools but its the same thing, with less features (some of which you might not use anyways). if you want the digidesign one, expect to come up with alot more money (and you need the degidesign audio interface). good thing about m-audio is that it supports pro tools m powered. no other audio interface supports it except digidesign and m-audio.
7. misc - mic stands, cables, pop filter (find cheap ones at pasar road, but cables spend abit more as in recording bad cables are noticable)

so a simple system like the above, when selecting the CHEAPEST of every option would be RM10650.

ps: any corrections please correct me. prices are not 100% as i dont know the latest pricing. davidgary, who is more pro than i am, please give your views.
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post Mar 13 2009, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Mar 12 2009, 11:45 PM)
i would substitude the DAW with audacity or reaper. audacity is free, and reaper you can buy the home user license for $40 USD.

if you're only record guitar at home, i'd suggest soft amp sim Revalver MkIII, excellent amp sim that cost below RM1500.

as for controller, if you only want to play keys, opt for the keystation, 88 keys for around rm1100++ or the less key ones that're cheaper.

PS: the handheld recorder recommendation was obviously refering to the sudden inspiration situation. sweat.gif
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i suggested the axiom over the keystation for a little bit more of money as it has
1. transport controls - you dont want to sit in front of your computer with your mouse all the time just to do things like hit the record button. and lets say if you're recording your single coil electric guitar, sitting in front of a computer monitor will give you noise. you can just sit somewhere else more comfy and press the record button with the axiom.
2. pads - the setup i suggested doesnt include recording an acoustic drum set so he has to program his own beats. you can do it with keys but itll end up very frustrating and its harder to add dynamics into it for a realistic sound. unrealistic drum sound for a rock/punk/alternative song would result in a bad song.
3. knobs and sliders - automation during the mixing process.

sure the keystation is abit cheaper, but in this situation, he should not just think of just being a musician but also think of having tools for the recording process as a whole.

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post Mar 13 2009, 01:56 PM

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i think i know which engineer ure talking about. hehe.

u do recording too?

oh well, ive given my points. everyone has their own way of doing it i suppose.
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post Mar 20 2009, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(bonai @ Mar 13 2009, 04:13 PM)
p/s- recording guitar is better if you mic it from an amp rather than direct cable...

this is to get a real life sound with ambience that you cannot get with EQs..
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well thats right that usually its nice to mic an amp (if its the right amp, and the correct techniques used). biggrin.gif
however, ambience has nothing to do with EQ. EQ is basically to boost/cut levels of a certain frequency range. guitar amps are usually of high SPL, so its usually (but not a hard rule) mic'd with a dynamic mic up close (and we all know SM57 is still one of the go-to mics for guitar speaker mic'ing). in those conditions, room ambience is too minimal to even be captured.
then again, its not a hard rule. there are many ways to mic an amp, including mixing a dynamic mic up close mixed with a ribbon mic (but dangerous at high SPLs) or a condenser mic at a distance (just have to calculate so you dont place it where theres standing waves, or if amps are in stereo, where really bad phasing occurs).

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post May 12 2009, 08:44 PM

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for those of you who dont know, propellerhead is now developing RECORD to go hand in hand with REASON.

i'm excited!
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post Jul 30 2009, 02:09 PM

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realtek HD just wont do it, but asio4all (free download) should help solve the problem.

well to be honest, if all the knobs and virtual consoles are already making you scratch your head, getting a midi might confuse you even more, because you need to know some basic midi programming and troubleshooting (if any problem arises).
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post Jul 30 2009, 06:04 PM

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which christian masterclass thread?

well if you do know adobe audition, the learning curve wouldnt be that steep anymore.

go to kinokuniya or mph and invest abit of money on a book on the software you have. i guess thats still one of the most effective and fastest way to learn (besides having someone show it to you)
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i bought one many years back.
I guess its not too bad, but a little disappointed once you develop an ear for microphones.
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post May 18 2012, 09:28 AM

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MyMic is a malaysian mic brand.

since ure dealing mostly with amps, a 57 is a safe bet. Also give sennheiser e906 a try.

once u got that and want to go up a level, add on a second mic, preferably large diaphragm condensers. ribbons are used too but I wont recommend it unless you know what you are doing as its more delicate.

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