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post Jun 10 2006, 02:05 PM

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havent tried that headphones. on the soundcard, i havent been keeping myself updated with recording soundcards in quite a while. therefore i am not sure if that price is ok for a juli@ or if there are better soundcards in the market around that price range. try asking what your client wants, what will it be mainly used for. that will help u make the decision easier.
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post Jun 29 2006, 05:33 PM

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obviously sofware is much cheaper. there are still alot of things sofware is behind. also take note software isnt in real time and its almost impossible to use it in a live situation. if u're recording several instruments simultanously, u'll have to consider the latency caused when u use alot of VSTs for diff instruments. if u're just recording one by one then it shouldnt be much of a problem.

as for amp modelling, i havent tried softwares for it yet. ive tried digital gear like line6 podxt live, behringer v amp pro, boss gt8, etc and these things are very good for recording.
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post Jun 30 2006, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Jun 30 2006, 12:21 AM)
blink.gif  blink.gif Now i'm confused.... My friend records live on nuendo. Meaning that it is real time. I can put on the effects (compressor and hall or watever) on the individual tracks before I start recording. That way i can get a live mix with the effects (to go out on PA) and at the same time i can change the effects later on for mastering (since i am recording the original input signal without effects).

So I don't think there will be a problem. Or what did you mean by real time? Of course the PC has to be very powerful. If not you get all sorts of weird lags and skips here and there. But regarding real time, he demonstrated to me how to do it. The only thing that is mafan is getting a digital controller. If not all the knobs u have to turn with the mouse. And i don't like that. So according to what he showed me, software can be used live. I don't have any worries there.

I am more concerned in terms of sound quality. Those who know me know that i am a very analogue person. I don't like digital stuff (sorry podXT and gt8 fans tongue.gif ). For example, you can hear the difference between a real 4x12 half stack and a modelled one miles away. Same way you can tell the difference from a Line 6 modelled sound from the real original setup. I want to know if the difference between analogue 19" hardware and digital software is this severe. Can you really tell a software compressor from a 19" rack compresor?
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yes a good computer will be needed. there will still be some latency. the digital controller will cost u quite an amount, not to mention the hardware to split ur signal so u can get everything recorded in diff tracks simultanously. well its up to u. tongue.gif

have u heard these modellers on full range systems? they sound really different(than normal amps) and good. not to mention hooking them up to a good recording preamp. rclxms.gif but what u said is true, theres still a difference between modellers and the real thing. if u're gona use it live, the real thing is definitely better. however as for recordings using the real thing, u need good room acoustics, proper mics and techniques, mic preamps, and of course, the real amp itself which is gona cost a bomb. with modellers, u skip being an engineer and focus more on being a musician. not to mention the amp options u get with just one modeller. from my experience in recording, one amp model is usually not enough when u are tracking a few guitars. in recording, its the tiny details that make such a big impression on how good the recording is.

the difference between a analogue 19" hardware and digital software is very subjective. it depends on what hardware or what software u are using and what type of sound u are going after. even if u have all the cash in the world to buy all the hardware, i might still recommend u to give a go at some software plugins. after all, if u're fussy, u get to edit effects in great detail using software(eg: multiband compressors which i find really really useful). using hardware u have to think about types of cables, the jack head quality, stable supply of power, etc too.

as for compressors, ive used a number of rack ones. maybe i am not good enough but i cant really tell the difference. remember, compression has nothing to do with tone(not like an amp) but has got to do with dynamics (assuming that circuitry, cables, etc of the analogue are not taken into account).

this is just my humble opinion. im not a pro, just a 19 year old who is interested in this. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 2 2006, 02:18 AM

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im seriously just a 19 year old who just is interested in this. ask those who've met me.
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post Jul 2 2006, 11:54 AM

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playing in small gigs, yes its true but if u're playing in a good auditorium (and nowadays churches with great systems and hall acoustics) then there might be a small difference. actually its only us musicians that care about these things. an average listener wouldnt listen to the radio and go ben moody of evanescence uses a line 6 HD147 whereas linkin park uses a real mesa.

however, when i saw paul gilbert play, it was in a hall with bad acoustics, but he blasted his tube marshalls out so loud the tube tone sounded freakin great
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post Jul 3 2006, 11:34 AM

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u're using it live right? and only one free track. dont be too fancy, a SM57 mic'd properly will do the job. theres a reason why some engineers in studios still use one SM57 to mic a cab.

wow, u really have an issue with the gt8. tongue.gif so all the compressors was turned off? did u check all the signal levels going through each effect within the gt8? it might be the cause of ur lack of dynamics. i dont have any problems with that. i dont use the OD on the gt8 as it isnt that good as my rack. however when playing live, it could be used. when u know how to set it up correctly and mix well with the rest of the band, theres no need for it to sound like a real circuit/tube/ etc as itll sound great. dont get too worried getting a tube sound, just worry about getting a good sound(not just when the guitar plays on its own) but a good sound when played together live as a band. a person who sets his zoom505 right will sound better than a guy who doesnt set his vintage tube amp right
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post Jul 20 2006, 01:05 PM

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just when we thought line6 UX1 and UX2 was cool...

Line 6 brings us....

http://line6.com/toneport/kb37.html

now i m putting my gears on hold, waiting for them to release the price...if its affordable ill get it
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post Jul 20 2006, 09:04 PM

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so are u still gona get ur UX1?
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post Jul 20 2006, 10:21 PM

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do i look like i have cash at the moment?

well i just moved in to a new house thats not furnished...so most of my $$$ flew away just like that buying furniture. furniture for a bungalow isnt cheap...
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post Jul 21 2006, 03:19 PM

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i dont get paid THAT much ok. yea housemates help too but still all ive earned has gone bye bye
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post Nov 14 2006, 08:19 PM

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dropped by SMX jz now and they had a few. forgotten the price though
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post Nov 20 2006, 01:06 AM

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anyone here know how to reduce latency? i seem to get latency when triggering samples
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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 20 2006, 05:58 AM)
what setup and samples are you referring to? Example?
using reason 3.0. when i use reason on its own the latency is very small(but good enough for me to jam with tracks). however when running adobe audition and rewiring(using rewire technology) it to reason, the latency is killing me(not to mention recording is messed up due to the significant lag)
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post Nov 21 2006, 11:02 PM

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any idea where to update and get the latest asio drivers?
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post Nov 22 2006, 10:15 AM

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im just not that confident getting it googling it and juz dloading. scared itll mess up things.
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post Jan 31 2007, 06:26 AM

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sorry im not too sure about audigy but i think it shouldnt be a problem
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post Mar 15 2007, 06:22 PM

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blacktrix, how about the studio B1 mic?
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post Mar 15 2007, 07:39 PM

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i thought blacktrix already own some pretty good dynamic mics (sennheiser right?).

blacktrix, u mean the taming sari?
http://www.my-mic.com
can get from sujesh, but i dont know where i can test them. sounds pretty good.

i would rather recommend the studio B1 mics or so rather than behringer C series(never tried the B). theyre alot better.

m-audio do make some award winning mics under 1k. wanna go smx to test them tomorrow? tongue.gif
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post Mar 29 2007, 10:54 PM

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yes u can. u can also go straight from ur multi efx to the fastrack
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post Apr 20 2007, 04:33 PM

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tried asking midi specialist?

i think musicians outlet also sells them but im not sure how to get to musicians outlet.

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