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post Sep 4 2006, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Sep 4 2006, 09:37 AM)
I have stumbled upon a problem in drum micing. I don't know how high to put the overheads. My setup is the standard left and right overhead mic, not the XY setup. So basically one mic is left and one is right.... doh.gif well duh.. biggrin.gif . pretty self explaining isn't it?

Anyway the problem that i stumbled upon is my condensers are either too far away or too near the cymbals. When they are too far away, they sort of become room mics picking up everything with loads of feedback (i am recording live in a relatively small hall without multitracking). When they are too near, all i get is crappy cymbal tone which dies out quite fast and is quite err....yucky....like a bweng bweng sound....dunno how to explain. I don't know why. I will try to post samples after i digitize the cassette. Yes i am still using cassettes  shakehead.gif ....

But anyway, anybody with drum micing experience?
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Since you've found a place which is too far and a place which is too near, why not try something in between the two? It's hard to say - there are many ways to mic, depending on your room, the kit, what type of sound you want..

I don't know whether this would work, but if you find that when they are too far away they sound too 'distant', try decreasing the distance between the mics? And why don't you try an XY / ORTF set up for the overheads? It may just work.. You just have to experiment, move the mics all over, equidistant with the snare.. You just have to experiment until you find the spot which sounds good..
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Thanks for the tips. i have tried to get it "in between" but i never found that spot yet even after meddling for almost 6 hours. It's could also maybe have been a problem with the mixer. I couldn't seem to get my EQ right that day. I'll try again this week.

I was looking for a short cut so i was asking around. What setup do you use? Or do you do recordings without drumsets?
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post Sep 5 2006, 04:33 AM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Sep 4 2006, 07:48 PM)
Thanks for the tips. i have tried to get it "in between" but i never found that spot yet even after meddling for  almost 6 hours. It's could also maybe have been a problem with the mixer. I couldn't seem to get my EQ right that day. I'll try again this week.

I was looking for a short cut so i was asking around. What setup do you use? Or do you do recordings without drumsets?
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Hmm. you mentioned that you are using condensers, yes? what types? Perhaps if you move them back and they pick up too much room noise, can you set them onto hypercardiods perhaps?

In general I find I don't actually EQ my overheads (not even a lowcut), i find that the mics I use for overheads (AKG C451B) are quite well suited to the job (they have a slight hump in their response ~ 10kHz).

I generally don't do much drumkit recordings (I only own 2 mics in fact, my AKG C451Bs), more of ambient, classical recordings.. But now and then I do end up with a project which requires a drumkit. Last one was an AKGD112 on the kick, SM57s on snare and one tom, one Sennheiser (can't remember) tom mic, and my two AKG C451Bs as the overheads.

One of the setups I play with sometimes (although not much) involves an X-Y configuration for the overheads...
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post Sep 5 2006, 08:33 AM

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will try that. thanks

EDIT: i'm using a cheapo mic kit from T-Bone. Dunno if u've heard of it.

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post Oct 5 2006, 04:14 AM

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i need a favour from somebody that has a full version of MAGIX music maker 11. I want to export a little something that i did to .wav file or .mp3 but i only have the demo version. And for the time being i have no money to buy the full version.

So if anyone can help or knows if tracks on MAGIX can be read by other audio processing software, i'd be very grateful. Thanks.
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post Oct 20 2006, 03:31 PM

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hi,

i'm not sure if it's alrite that i post this here. but my company is a mobile content provider looking for a Digital Audio Producer. anyone interested can send their resume to mru_2161@yahoo.com

below are the requirements:-
1. Good music or audio background, preferred with at least a diploma from audio or music field

2. Know how to use audio software like sound forge, adobe audition

3. Good at waves editing

4. Midi sequencing skill is an added advantage

5. Fast and neat in job delivering

(Permanent position; Salary range from RM1500-RM2500)

please help me out to ask around to see if anyone of ur frens will be interested. cos it's very hard to find candidates from the audio industry.

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p/s: my company is located in KL along jalan ampang. we are on a 5 days week work basis.

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post Nov 7 2006, 12:20 AM

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Studio pros:

i need to know what these two terms mean
i) ADAT
ii) S/PDIF

And a general noob question. If i use an A/D wandler (8 channels) meaning i have 8 analogue channels going in (via 6.3mm) and then via ADAT optical or S/PDIF coaxial to the soundcard; this means i get 8 tracks on my cubase/nuendo/protools seperately?

To phrase my question very simply:
Does the A/D converter (eg Fostex VC-8) connect to my soundcard (eg RME HDSP9652) via ADAT optical cable?
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post Nov 9 2006, 01:54 AM

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Anyone interested in studio recording?
Need musician for recording to practice my mixing skill.
No charge.FOC
mengzhee@gmail.com
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QUOTE(limengz @ Nov 9 2006, 01:54 AM)
Anyone interested in studio recording?
Need musician for recording to practice my mixing skill.
No charge.FOC
mengzhee@gmail.com
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interested. tell me more
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post Nov 10 2006, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(gizmoduck @ Nov 10 2006, 01:30 PM)
interested. tell me more
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Dude....i visit ur myspace.
Cool band. Nice song.

more details of what i am doing.
I am student in SAE malaysia. doing about audio engineering, in future i might take up recording art.
I need to build up my portfolio.
I need to practice my mixing too.

Any musician willing to help me on that?
while i will help them to get their song done with best quality.

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post Nov 10 2006, 11:18 PM

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hehe, this one is for SAE student project?
i helped couple of friends already before there, dont want to do anymore tongue.gif
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QUOTE(limengz @ Nov 10 2006, 11:12 PM)
Dude....i visit ur myspace.
Cool band. Nice song.

more details of what i am doing.
I am student in SAE malaysia. doing about audio engineering, in future i might take up recording art.
I need to build up my portfolio.
I need to practice my mixing too.

Any musician willing to help me on that?
while i will help them to get their song done with best quality.
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thanks fer the compliments. I LIKE! ITS NICE!

I've got a few songs I need to record. Some acoustics and prob a full band. Its nothing complicated though. When do you think you'll be doing this? if let say, nxt month onwards would be excellent
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post Nov 11 2006, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(limengz @ Nov 10 2006, 04:12 PM)

more details of what i am doing.
I am student in SAE malaysia. doing about audio engineering, in future i might take up recording art.
I need to build up my portfolio.
I need to practice my mixing too.

Any musician willing to help me on that?
while i will help them to get their song done with best quality.
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I am interested as well. Only problem is, i'm in germany right now. What i could do is send you raw tracks recorded in a studio and you can mix them. If you are interested.

And how much does SAE charge you and how long is the course? Do they offer sound engineering courses for hobbyists?
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post Nov 11 2006, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(gizmoduck @ Nov 11 2006, 12:52 AM)
thanks fer the compliments. I LIKE! ITS NICE!

I've got a few songs I need to record. Some acoustics and prob a full band. Its nothing complicated though. When do you think you'll be doing this? if let say, nxt month onwards would be excellent
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er...january ok?
i got final exam on december...hehe.
after 21 december i am free.

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post Nov 11 2006, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 11 2006, 07:58 AM)
I am interested as well. Only problem is, i'm in germany right now. What i could do is send you raw tracks recorded in a studio and you can mix them. If you are interested.

And how much does SAE charge you and how long is the course? Do they offer sound engineering courses for hobbyists?
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thnx for the offer dude.
can u send them to my Gay Mail?
mengzhee@gmail.com

SAE charge 10K USD for the audio engineering course.
They offer short course for music production too, u will get know how to use all the equipement.

U can do it in berlin, germany too.
Music production in germany is a big thing.
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QUOTE(limengz @ Nov 11 2006, 08:59 AM)
thnx for the offer dude.
can u send them to my Gay Mail?
mengzhee@gmail.com

SAE charge 10K USD for the audio engineering course.
They offer short course for music production too, u will get know how to use all the equipement.

U can do it in berlin, germany too.
Music production in germany is a big thing.
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I know about SAE. I can do it in Munich as well. But dem mahal. I need to save for an RME soundcard first.

Will send you the files when i get round to recording something. Maybe sometime in jan or feb after i get my soundcard. Thanks for the offer.
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post Nov 13 2006, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 11 2006, 07:59 PM)
I know about SAE. I can do it in Munich as well. But dem mahal. I need to save for an RME soundcard first.

Will send you the files when i get round to recording something. Maybe sometime in jan or feb after i get my soundcard. Thanks for the offer.
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cool...i need to get an audio interface too

This post has been edited by limengz: Nov 13 2006, 06:21 PM
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post Nov 13 2006, 09:09 PM

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nice. But RME stuff are pretty expensive. Have you used any EMU stuff before? Or M-Audio or any other brand that you think is worth the money. Cause in germany, RME is the standard. And the rest are uncommon. And i always try to avoid behringer stuff.
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post Nov 14 2006, 09:46 AM

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m-audio is sold by smx and midi specialist here right? i was thinking of an audiophile 2496 as a starter. but after looking at sinamex's singapore's pricelist for the 2496 which is at $180 sing, i get queasy looking at midi specialist's price, rm 800!

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dropped by SMX jz now and they had a few. forgotten the price though

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