i am a multitracker. I love having the single tracks at my disposal to mix. It is pretty good for changing the live mix to a nice studio mixdown.

agree on bassix on that. Being able to multitrack is so much better than just taking down the stereo mix. There are things which can't be done live but would be just a piece of cake while doing the mixdown. Being able to make certain instruments clearer and some go to the background and stuff.

Just did a test run today. What i did was use the Aux 4 on the mixer as my recording channel and send it to my pc. Volume control was done live with Aux 4 controls and headphones (impossible to hear from the monitor when band's playing). Had no problem with the vocals, guitars and synths but the bass drum and bass guitar played hell with my ears. Thought i had a nice even mix during recording, but during play back, the bass and bass drum peaked alot and my compressor had to kick in, lowering the volume by alot... It sounded normal at first, but when they come in, everything suddenly becomes very soft.. lol.

Still have to find a way mix bass and drums in cos the sound from stage is affecting my mix.. >.< any ideas how to improve on it?

havent really been following what you're doing.
but what is the recording for?
just for letting friends listen? wanna release a live album?

how many line-ins/tracks are you using?

Yeah...i've never got a good live mix before. All the live mixes that i do suck big time. Everything is so normal and monotonous. Dunno whether it's the band that sux or me. Most likely me....hahaha

how big is the hall/stage/space watever.... I have some problems with small halls because the condenser overheads pick up all the excess noise from every instrument and makes the mix very messy (even with drum screen) but other than that, i have no problem with mixing drums even without a compressor. Maybe try turning down the limiter gate so that your compressor is always running then turn up the output of the compressor. It will give a more consistent output and you won't notice it when it suddenly kicks in. Try it and let me know if it works....i have no idea myself


For the fun of it i guess (in my case anyway). It's just interesting to be able to record and come up with a song and listen to it afterwards. Recording and mixing is just like playing another instrument. To me at least. I just picked it up not too long ago. It's my second "instrument" so to say.

we're recording songs we've written for the past few years to make an album. It's a gift for our youth pastor. Wanna make it sound as professionally done as possible but there's so much limitations on hardware side... so just gotto do my best.

well, how many mics you got?
recording live right? in a small hall? room?

hmm.. mics.. for vocals, we have 4 SM 58 and a shure wireless
Electric guitar amp is miked using SM57
2 condensers and 1 SM57 for on the drums (dun have drum mike kit)
synth is balanced with DI
AER and bass amp are lined in directly.

Using Yamaha MG32 and recorded live using AUX 4 on the mixer as my recording output. I'd say the room size is a small hall (acoustics are not very good)

well that sounds decent enough to do a demo quality project.

as for the kick drum, IIRC the kick frequency falls around 600hz.
so yea, you will need some sort of decent eq also.

you already have 3 mics on the drums which i assume is a stereo spread and one on kick?
or one above, one snare, one kick?

corrections..
actually it's 2 condensers above to capture the cymbals, 1 normal to get the kick drum and sm57 for snare.

Aux out is mono, still figuring a way to get a stereo line out without distrupting normal operations.

y use aux as a recording out instead of the mains or even a subgroup (eg 1 and 2 or something...) ?

What do you use the sub outs for then?

hi guys, im using m-audio audiophile 192, with P4 3.2, 1.5gb of ram.. my big problem now is, when i make live recording or sampling midi, my cpu usage will reach warning level, althought its juz to tracks like that.. pls help me..wat happen to the cpu prob?

i dunno if 1.5 gb is alot of ram, but my friend uses 2 GB and he still has that problem sometimes. He recommended 4 GB RAM. But i don't think you need that much. 2GB should be enough, just add in another 512 chip and see if there's a difference.

my fren juz using 1gb ram, dun hav any prob with that.. using ESI juli, is it something problem with the buffer or latancy?

could be a driver problem.. not too sure myself. Using audigy 4 plat with cubase 3sx.. no probs here. cpu running almost flat at 20% -30% usage. 2gb ram and 930D.

I dunno, but when i have been running Nuendo or Cubase the whole day and decide at the end that i'm going to do some live recording, then i get skipping problems and weird lags with the midi devices. But after rebooting no more liao. So i still suspect it's the RAM.

i think cubase is more stable.. when im using cakewalk sonar..its almost drop out... damn...

bassix, could be your proc's heat, or could also be your rams not clearing out those temp data efficiently. Try a rambooster (cleaner) and see if it works.

will do... But i am upgrading the RAM again. Getting a digital mixer soon for the church. So time to upgrade RAM too.

***not my money ***

This post has been edited by Bassix: Aug 17 2006, 08:05 PM

haih.. digital is still beyond the horizon.. we just had an upgrade last year.. bought the MG32 di.. Pushing for a MOTU 24IO and a MOTU harddisk recorder.. hope they'll approve it.

I have stumbled upon a problem in drum micing. I don't know how high to put the overheads. My setup is the standard left and right overhead mic, not the XY setup. So basically one mic is left and one is right.... well duh.. . pretty self explaining isn't it?

Anyway the problem that i stumbled upon is my condensers are either too far away or too near the cymbals. When they are too far away, they sort of become room mics picking up everything with loads of feedback (i am recording live in a relatively small hall without multitracking). When they are too near, all i get is crappy cymbal tone which dies out quite fast and is quite err....yucky....like a bweng bweng sound....dunno how to explain. I don't know why. I will try to post samples after i digitize the cassette. Yes i am still using cassettes ....

But anyway, anybody with drum micing experience?