Yeah, without sponsors there would be no tournaments. I know, but somehow there should be a way that sponsors shouldn't involve too much into the nitty gritty of a tournament especially in the rules part. The thing is, from what I've seen, Singapore have the same type of tournaments/sponsors(probably much more higher profile sponsors usually, but we still got much more tournaments than them), but the organizers still kept the integrity of their tournament with much more enforced rules so I don't understand why can't we do the same. Though, I'll probably guess that its partly because most of our tournaments are cc-sponsored based compared to them, so the cc boss would want their "own" team to play in it. But for an SMM related tourney to have much less rule enforcing is kinda seem a bit leery. Or probably again it might just be something that is "normal" within our culture to organize events in such ways.

Oh and another thing, SMM should have announced/stated that everyone that is qualified can play again - doesn't matter in this thread or call the teams individually - instead of letting the lesser teams finding it out the last minute possible. It would at least give all teams a fair ground to decide whether they should join it or not. But by not stating it in the first place, to me it seems unprofessional for an organizer as big as SMM.

1. Named SMM Revenge Revival. But allowed qualified teams/players to join the tourney.
2. No updates from organizer. Photos/live update/ or even replays.
3. Din't state the rules for SMM Revenge Revival clearly.

E-sport dream? This is just a game.

update?

semi final left bracket

Hanash Team VS Sino Regal

semi final right bracket

Sino VS Sampah (MizuH,w4siMonkey,XiGZ,XiaoXiaoFonG,w4siLucky)

aiyo ! so many talk c0ck meh?u dont like how they organise,u dont talk c0ck here! cb.

congratz to hanash finally qualify after participating so many qualifier.
smm sud giv them seeded in grand final ^^

congrats to hanash and hhlong ^^

Swt... Thx Dai and Fiz.

Dai we same same la if they gimme seeded shud give u semi str8 le lolz U got ur chance i had mine thx for the congrats though.

sino revenge champion is what team?

sino champion is xxf that team~

sad case...hanash should champion!!!

Because of the lack of response for the 3 previous stages for the SMM revenge revival, we had decided to cancel the event on the 28th November 2010 that would held in the SIMs this week and to replace it with another tournament in the same venue.

Sorry for any inconvenient caused. The updates for the new tournament would be release soon.

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Nov 22 2010, 03:09 PM

smm go fcuk urself corupted organization

New tournament is announced
Click here for new tournament

Yep, of course we won't be here discussing this if the organizer properly enforced the rule. Thats why, who is saying that the organizer isn't in the wrong? I feel the organizer should take 90% of the blame and the players should take 10% of it. What do you mean by "nothing can be done about that" - having 1 'strong' team (the organizer's home team) is definitely alot better for those teams trying to qualify than having 9420 teams with 'strong qualified' players.

In regards to the remainder of your post, all I can say is, you can do your part in helping them not be 'demoralized' and yadadada.

Haha...It is true and happened in the SMM right now...no longer professionalism...even though SMM is a very large tournament as world class tournament, to those who never know what happened inside SMM tourney, they just enjoyed the result. But to us, we knew what happen and kinda disappointed.

which is why i said u have to read what i said earlier properly

the sponsor wishes that their home team to play with qualified player, there is nothing much the organizer can do but to agree with the sponsor wish, because the sponsor are the one who provide them the venue for the tournament and prize , the sponsor already made themselves clear that regardless of what their team with qualified player must play , so what can the organizer do? cancel the tournament and give 0 chance to other teams at all?

what i can tell u is , because posting understand the situation , before replying other post, read the the post properly and understand it

Who to hell told you that "there is nothing much the organizers can do but to agree with the sponsor wish"?

If SMM had integrity, they will just tell the sponsors to fuc[k] off and they will find some other sponsor. Even if it means having less sponsors and qualifiers overall, at least they can hold their head high up and say that they proud of themselves for keeping their words and also dignity intact. Where are the principles? In a worst case scenario, if theres really no sponsors at all, then they just have to cancel the whole SMM tourney. But obviously as shown by the SMM organizers, this is not on the top of their priority list and all they care about is to make money. And for you to make excuses for them is just pathetic, because shit like this happen when there are people like you who share the same ahbeng/greedy bastar[d]/must always bow to the master type of mindset/mentality/thinking as them. Then suddenly everything and anything seems acceptable and you find that rules are no longer needed to be followed properly and you can break them without any consequences/punishment.

Another thing is, if they know that most of the time they can't keep to what they say, why must they even say that team XXXX is banned? Just for show? Trying to to give players a false belief? Does not SMM know anything about marketing? Just omit it next time in the future, so players won't be conned anymore. Its called simple ethics. Don't you know and SMM know that?

I respect SMM's mission of wanting to keep the esport dream alive and whatnot in Malaysia, but they should never do it at the expense of people. A seller can never con or lie to a customer/consumer/buyer and this is a golden rule of consumerism. What is there to understand the situation? I am afraid you are the one who is not understanding it.

This post has been edited by RENEGADEZERG: Nov 26 2010, 09:21 PM

Good points, very well said.

+1