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 Nokia N8 - V9 - [The King of Camera Phones], New N8 Owner, please read the FrontPage!

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post Oct 28 2010, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 28 2010, 04:28 PM)
use the GPGPU to create contect by itself...  nod.gif  nod.gif  nod.gif  icon_question.gif
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LOL oiii bro u just drink happy juice kah?? laugh.gif

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post Oct 28 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 28 2010, 04:30 PM)
I hang at least 10+ times already which is annoying and i noticed once it crashes and i reboot , it will crash again . At least 3-4 times only stable back.

It really made me worried if it is just my n8 problem or someone is experiencing this problem too.  sad.gif
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i hang one time and get auto restart this afternoon..
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Oct 28 2010, 05:25 PM)
network is the main culprit... either wifi or phone network... poor network will drain batt like drink water, this same goes to wifi when the signal is low the phone will boost up from 40mW to 100mW transmit power...  nod.gif


Added on October 28, 2010, 4:27 pm

but if the content not fully loaded ada apa mau scroll leh??  hmm.gif
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Well, since relying on processor is a s***, why not relying on GPGPU like BuFung says? And broadcom GPU is 2nd most powerful GPU on smartphone today after Nvidia Tegra (someone posted the link b4, can't find it now). Hope Nokia could utilize the GPU more coz it seems a waste let the GPU under-utilize like that hmm.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 28 2010, 04:30 PM)
I hang at least 10+ times already which is annoying and i noticed once it crashes and i reboot , it will crash again . At least 3-4 times only stable back.
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I don't want to emphasis this la.. in this thread.. ppl will defend this kind of talk..

same you go to N97 V1 thread.. plenty of ppl defending the same way.. end up all those user also abandon N97....

tell out the fact only will make Nokia make the firmware better.. sweep it under the table will not make much good...

how sad.. ppl like to keep it...
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(SecretPaladin @ Oct 28 2010, 04:32 PM)
i hang one time and get auto restart this afternoon..
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FP updated liao the browser crash bug.... but NOT ur caplang charger issue... tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Oct 28 2010, 04:31 PM)
LOL oiii bro u just drink happy juice kah??  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif hahahaha.... Leo say the Network is a lame excuses mah.. laugh.gif



QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 28 2010, 04:33 PM)
Well, since relying on processor is a s***, why not relying on GPGPU like BuFung says? And broadcom GPU is 2nd most powerful GPU on smartphone today after Nvidia Tegra (someone posted the link b4, can't find it now). Hope Nokia could utilize the GPU more coz it seems a waste let the GPU under-utilize like that hmm.gif
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it is a OS level of thing to re-write that layer to use GPU.. doing so.. I don't think that OS is call Symbian anymore...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 28 2010, 04:33 PM)
I don't want to emphasis this la.. in this thread..  ppl will defend this kind of talk.. 

same you go to N97 V1 thread..  plenty of ppl defending the same way..  end up all those user also abandon N97....

tell out the fact only will make Nokia make the firmware better..  sweep it under the table will not make much good...

how sad.. ppl like to keep it...
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sifu... update liao the browser dumb dumb crash issue... sigh i think b4 even the first day the N8 already been bash by it's browser... b4 this still hoping the opera will save the day but it turn out not exactly as expected... shakehead.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Oct 28 2010, 05:34 PM)
FP updated liao the browser crash bug.... but NOT ur caplang charger issue... tongue.gif
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Browser crash as in it crashes and close itself? Or it crashes and the whole phone not responding? Just want some confirmation.

Oh ya , anyone noticed that when video recording , you zoom till 0.5x it will not focus but once you hit 1x , 2x it focuses. Just a note smile.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:38 PM

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noob here wana ask again~ smile.gif.. where did u guys usually download apps? and if i store videos, the ovi will convert it to a diff file type?
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 28 2010, 05:35 PM)
laugh.gif  hahahaha....  Leo say the Network is a lame excuses mah.. laugh.gif
it is a OS level of thing to re-write that layer to use GPU..  doing so..  I don't think that OS is call Symbian anymore...
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*cough* *cough*

Any improvement is welcome to Symbian. If Nokia re-write the layer to use the GPU, then BuFung will notworthy.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Oct 28 2010, 04:36 PM)
sifu... update liao the browser dumb dumb crash issue... sigh i think b4 even the first day the N8 already been bash by it's browser... b4 this still hoping the opera will save the day but it turn out not exactly as expected...  shakehead.gif
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Sifu not me.. Sifu is ppl who call ppl stupid and noob one.. biggrin.gif laugh.gif

The N8 delay so long make me hope the entire firmware can be stable.. turn out.. zzzzz.....
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 28 2010, 04:37 PM)
Browser crash as in it crashes and close itself? Or it crashes and the whole phone not responding? Just want some confirmation.

Oh ya , anyone noticed that when video recording , you zoom till 0.5x it will not focus but once you hit 1x , 2x it focuses. Just a note smile.gif
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yes... and it's been confirmed by the gsmarena team during their review... so the lesson would be DON'T half zoom... either NO ZOOM or FULL ZOOM... nod.gif
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QUOTE(rifasha @ Oct 28 2010, 05:38 PM)
noob here wana ask again~ smile.gif.. where did u guys usually download apps? and if i store videos, the ovi will convert it to a diff file type?
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Usually download apps from Ovi Store . As for the Ovi converting file type , i'm not sure as i don't use Ovi Suite to transfer files. Just directly.
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 28 2010, 05:37 PM)
Browser crash as in it crashes and close itself? Or it crashes and the whole phone not responding? Just want some confirmation.

Oh ya , anyone noticed that when video recording , you zoom till 0.5x it will not focus but once you hit 1x , 2x it focuses. Just a note smile.gif
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Browser crash is really happen when I go to the page where people post Youtube video inside this topic. And then I change to Opera and didnt encounter a single crash. And I think stock browser having javascript issues.
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 28 2010, 04:37 PM)
Browser crash as in it crashes and close itself? Or it crashes and the whole phone not responding? Just want some confirmation.

Oh ya , anyone noticed that when video recording , you zoom till 0.5x it will not focus but once you hit 1x , 2x it focuses. Just a note smile.gif
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will the Object of ur video is it too close?



QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 28 2010, 04:38 PM)
*cough* *cough*

Any improvement is welcome to Symbian. If Nokia re-write the layer to use the GPU, then BuFung will  notworthy.gif
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FUUU... if can do so N8 fly like F22 loh... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

ur this morning info wrong.. there is setting for the map to always ON back light...


Added on October 28, 2010, 4:41 pm
QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 28 2010, 04:40 PM)
Browser crash is really happen when I go to the page where people post Youtube video inside this topic. And then I change to Opera and didnt encounter a single crash. And I think stock browser having javascript issues.
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cannot disable Java support?

This post has been edited by BuFung: Oct 28 2010, 04:41 PM
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(rifasha @ Oct 28 2010, 04:38 PM)
noob here wana ask again~ smile.gif.. where did u guys usually download apps? and if i store videos, the ovi will convert it to a diff file type?
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use the build in Ovi Store to get the normally use apps, some others u might need to ask uncle google...
Ovi Suite will auto convert the video to supported format if u use it to transfer video content into N8, same goes to audio files, u can set the quality as well within the Ovi Suite setting... nod.gif

1 note though... the Ovi Suite are quite annoying... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 28 2010, 05:40 PM)
Browser crash is really happen when I go to the page where people post Youtube video inside this topic. And then I change to Opera and didnt encounter a single crash. And I think stock browser having javascript issues.
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I'm having auto crashes on both browsers . I thought Opera would be a better browser than the stock one but didn't expected it to auto off by itself doh.gif

QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 28 2010, 05:41 PM)
will the Object of ur video is it too close? 

Added on October 28, 2010, 4:41 pm
cannot disable Java support?
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Nope , it was not even close. Just some zooming focusing issues , well not really an issue.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 28 2010, 05:41 PM)
will the Object of ur video is it too close? 
FUUU...    if can do so N8 fly like F22 loh...  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

ur this morning info wrong..  there is setting for the map to always ON back light...


Added on October 28, 2010, 4:41 pm
cannot disable Java support?
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Is there a differences between screen timeout and backlight? cause sometimes the setting is kinda confusing

I have disable Java support, but browser still crash.
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post Oct 28 2010, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(SecretPaladin @ Oct 28 2010, 03:01 PM)
really 2nd batch and never encounter any problems.. maybe too many msg already... and i type msg damn fast..
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lol...c'mon lar, same hardware, same firmware....there's no such thing as 2nd batch no problem, just that you didnt perform the specific actions to make the bug occur..mine is first batch, apart from feeling that it responds kinda slow, i didnt face any major bug also

QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Oct 28 2010, 03:02 PM)
@BuFung looking at ur siggy suddenly i got something feel weird bout symbian.the stable firmware applied on some phone and apply on another new model it became unstable?What the F***???for example,like 5800 and 5530..somebody explain bout this?bufung?Bbxiong?
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spec different, hence coding different. See it this way...5800 camera image processing and 5530 implementation might be different, so the seperate the coding for the camera processing part. it will work fine by that camera module itself, but, when you join together with other modules like file saving, preview, etc etc, it might have different behavior due to the different coding, hence even though the spec is the same, OS is the same, some of the bugs would only occur on specific models...due to different programmers and codings.

QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 28 2010, 03:07 PM)
eh.. u know more phone dealer... do u know Nokia release 2nd batch of N8 which have a better firmware..

I heard some forumer say so.... nod.gif  nod.gif  nod.gif

BBXiong talking about N8..  ur N8 very stable? never hang? 

5800 very stable on initial firmware?  wow..
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my N8? well...browser crash when i click on email link lor...other then that, never encounter anything before wor...maybe mine also 2nd batch?

QUOTE(SecretPaladin @ Oct 28 2010, 03:45 PM)
bro.. why u so hate symbian..?
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it's not he hates symbian, is cos people that used other platform will know, Symbian cannot compete with other OS as of now. I been using 6680 -> N851 -> N82 also, long time Symbian fan, but even i think that compared to iOS, Symbian is like a baby in comparison...
we don have Symbian, you only think that way because you lack of exposure to other platforms.

QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 28 2010, 04:00 PM)
I have nothing to look at..  laugh.gif   
why u so hate Symbian?    sei Ifag...  tongue.gif laugh.gif  hahahaha.....

SGS problem is not software oh.. is hardware design fault...  they use interior SD as a Cache.. the speed are too slow to use as Cache...  that's why SGS lag...  not the software or file system or watever problem...
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that one i think is OS issue, save the OS cache to wrong place...

QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 28 2010, 04:23 PM)
Network connection is a lame excuse. The UI can speed up if it utilize processor (or GPGPU) instead of relying on more to the network connections.  whistling.gif
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network connection is lame excuse? it's like your browser lar, if the page content is not loaded, what u want them to show?

QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 28 2010, 04:33 PM)
Well, since relying on processor is a s***, why not relying on GPGPU like BuFung says? And broadcom GPU is 2nd most powerful GPU on smartphone today after Nvidia Tegra (someone posted the link b4, can't find it now). Hope Nokia could utilize the GPU more coz it seems a waste let the GPU under-utilize like that hmm.gif
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you know how much power do you need to power a GPU? u know why gaming drains your battery like water? cos they uses GPU....your meaning is you want to use GPGU everywhere, and navigates thru the menu will also drain your battery at similar level of gaming? GPGPU is good, but it doesnt mean it must be applied everywhere, when battery life is a concern
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 28 2010, 04:45 PM)
Is there a differences between screen timeout and backlight? cause sometimes the setting is kinda confusing

I have disable Java support, but browser still crash.
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hehehe... we need a new browser not script disable button... tongue.gif

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