wow.. this is great. can use for mac or not?

No not my keyboard. The keycaps are doubleshot abs custom ordered by bulk from Signature Plastic; i ordered one set for myself :] As you can see it has a dolche black/grey color layout.

That font is the cheapest option which was why we settled on that. If you want a nicer font, you need to pay for licensing fees it seems :/

Getting doubleshot keys on keyboards these days is very rare. Also a keyboard is more than just the keycaps used. Which is why i got a Ducky, then i will install these custom keycaps as replacements.

These keycaps are only compatible with Cherry mx switches. On the bottom of the keycap is the cross matching with Cherry switches. You won't be able to use them for say, Topre, Alps, or rubberdome keyboards etc.

Originally these were replacements for the Filco; however the Ducky has the same layout also uses same switches so should be compatible.

So whats so special about doubleshots ? Out of all the keyprint types; doubleshots are

1. most durable. Always looks brand new. Meaning the lettering will never fade ever. The only thing it doesn't gurantee is the shine and yellowing. That depends on what plastic is used; in this case they are abs; but that shouldn't matter as much as the keyprint being used. ABS keycaps should be sufficiently good enough, although i may have preferred pbt or pom keycaps.

2. the lettering is the most clearest versus other key print types. Because it has 2 different colors of plastics molded onto each other; the letterings come out very very clearly


That is why doubleshots are very sought after for keyboards :]



Well if the mechanical keyboard you use has cherry mx switches yes it should be compatible with mac. You notice the windows keys ? Many people in the bulk didn't really like the windows keys because some of them used MAC or LInux OS. So what we did was add a DIAMOND key as a replacement for the windows key in case you use a different OS and didn't want to show the windows logo.


That is White Rice's keyboard. He installed the keycaps as a demonstration how it will look like. There are 104 + orange WASD keys and some other extra keycaps + free orange key puller as part of the package. If i am not mistaken, that is probably his Ducky 1087 10keyless keyboard.


So how do they feel when typing on ?

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Added on November 12, 2010, 1:42 amHm This is the Zowie Celeritas

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/17492/zowie_...itas/index.html



Says it has repeat response function keys :/ i wonder what they can be used for hm....



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 12 2010, 01:42 AM

ya the font way too big and old school.
even it is 2 shot molded.but still..ugly.IMO.

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Added on November 12, 2010, 2:31 amprobably easier for you..but not for everyone.
You need to let go your W,A,S,D to press those macro.
i play WoW using W,A,S,D.
Those macro wont make much different for me.
going for extreme PVP or Raiding.
NKRO really helps a lot, which had been helping me to become a better PVP player.

This post has been edited by OCN_fssbzz: Nov 12 2010, 02:31 AM

hi moogle ~ can i noe how much izit wit the fullset kepcaps u going to bought ? only black n grey ? no others color like red ?

This post has been edited by andythung: Nov 12 2010, 02:50 AM

about $49 USD+shipping, ordered with white rice
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=11998

Like OCN_fssbzz said



http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=11998



The only color offered is a dolch layout. You could negotiate with signature plastics yourself and setup a Malaysian bulk for a different color and font if you wish; however it may take like 50 ish participants to make it more affordable. Single orders are too damn expensive to be worth it.

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Added on November 12, 2010, 3:38 amBy the way they are starting a new bulk possibly using a different color layout, and font type.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=12682

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Added on November 12, 2010, 9:03 amMore pictures of the Ducky 9008 i ordered (coming in December)

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Added on November 12, 2010, 11:45 amA cleaner picture of the doubleshots i'm getting

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Added on November 13, 2010, 3:05 amSeems there is another new Singapore Bulk for Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 Black keyboard.

178.00 SGD = 426.830 MYR (shipping cost to Malaysia + paypal transaction fee hasn't yet been added)



If order directly from Tabao to Malaysia it cost this much

1,393.76 HKD = 559.513 MYR (shipping price already included)


http://forums.vr-zone.com/requests-interes...l-keyboard.html




Apparently they are also bulking the Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-0 (grey) for 172 SGD. However i wouldn't recommend it since it has PBT laser etched keycaps whereas the Lycus-2 black has POM laser etched keycaps which is very rare.

Both keyboards are using Cherry mx Red switches which are linear non clicky. It's softer than Chery Mx Brown when depressing, but without the tactile feedback. This is a good alternative to the Cherry mx black which is tiring after a while to type on. However the problem with the Cherry Mx Red, it may be too soft so you can accidentally depress keys if you tend to rest fingers on keycaps without intending to press. They are that easily actuated

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 13 2010, 04:08 AM

erm is a same force as brown, just non tactile.
45g

Wow.. Mx red.. just when I have ordered..

Sky.Live - DK-9008 - Black-on-Black “黑同刻” ABS Keycaps (with bonus set of keycaps) / Cherry MX Brown

The Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 blacks are more worth it. Both keyboards are virtually identical except for

1. coloring (obviously)

2. the nibs on the keys are slightly different (nothing much to worry about)

3. the Lycus-2 black has POM laser etched keycaps; whereas the Lycus-0 (grey) has PBT laser etched keycaps.


So the Lycus-2 black seems the better choice for 6 SGD more POM keycaps is very rare and more durable.

Other important facts to know.

The keyboard switches are pcb mounted, meaning to remove switches you need not desolder them. If you google in geehacks there is a guide how to do it. Since it's pcb mounted it's not as sturdy against say a Filco which has a metal plate. However some users that have it say even with rough handling it's still ok

Opening the case often isn't recommended as you can eventually break the plastic mechanism holding the keyboard casing pieces together.

Removing keycaps even those on stabilizers should be cake (compared to say a Filco).

Both keyboards support full NKRO when using the USB to PS2 adapter.


Cherry keyboards spacebar is slightly different from norm as the underside is connected slightly right off center. Not really sure why they did that, but anyway it's not like your going to replace POM spacebar anytime soon anyway. Just something to mention.

Alternatively there is the Cherry G80-3484HKCUS-2 which has Double shot keycaps and outwardly looks similar to the G80-3494. What other differences there are compared the the G80-3494 Lycus-2 and Lycus-0 i am not sure, because information is sparse :/ But from hearsay sounds like it is not NKRO.

Here are some reviews of the Lycus-2 black.

http://www.mrinterface.com/reviews/Keyboar...erry%20g80-3494



And here is a review of the Lycus-0 grey

http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/744268-cherry-g80-3494-cherry-red-white.html



Anyway Filco, Cherry g80-3494 lycus-2 or Ducky 9008 you can't go wrong with any of them just compare prices features and switches to see what you prefer.

The only reason i got my Dk-9008 was i felt brown switches were better for me; as the reviews kept pointing out how easily red switches are actuated, sounded too soft for me Also costed more; until this MOQ came along

Mechanical keyboard is grave for wallets, it makes u fall deeper and deeper and there's no return.

I don't know why in one day I read about i out of boredom in office and fell into it

Anyway although red sounds more ideal for gamer, but the extra ducky (media keys) will be more beneficial i think.

I light rather lightly, only starcraft 2 occasionally.

Anyway, mx red is just sounds very nice compared to all mx black and blue.
But currently not willing to change my keyboard since short of cash now.
Now for me a good keyboard not really specific for gaming but for nice typing experience, a good keyboard will let the user enjoying the typing work.

how good if i can just buy the red switches

Red sounds ideal for me too (from the paper).
But I think I cant live without media key haha.

remember that MX Red are limited, it is very rare. Is very hard to get it.
If you plan to get it yourself, it will cost way more then expectation.
Join the MO by Walrus is not a bad idea at all.

I heard this before about, MX Red is products of a China's company (I don't know which 1), and not produced by any famous keyboard company, is it true?
Usually only can see MX Black, Blue, Brown only. (some time Green as well, but rare also)

just gone through all pages.

storm88, i am waiting for your filco in early december yo~

yup, cherry corp doesn't sell their Cherry MX Red to any other Mech kb manufacture at all.
so it is rare.

And so am I

Wanna get a tenkeyless keyboard for excessive SC2! Do you think I should get the full key instead?

Depends. Do you use numpad a lot ?

I use it occasionally for gaming :/ so i rather have it.

But even if you get the tenkeyless Filco, they do sell an extra numpad just by itself.

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Added on November 16, 2010, 12:00 pmHere is a picture of a Filco 10keyless with the custom double shot key caps.





This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 16 2010, 12:00 PM