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 What insurance plan you having? Pls share as guide, Tell us how much, good/bad it is:)

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post Oct 29 2010, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 29 2010, 03:56 AM)
So its kind of investment linked insurance ?

Tabaru fund is unit trust?
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Takafulink = investment link plan
Tabaru' = donation/derma/sedekah

The remaining balance of your contribution (less all charges/tabaru') is used to buy unit in selected fund (a.k.a unit trust)
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post Oct 29 2010, 08:15 AM

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Pru don't have stand alone medical card?


Based on my observation, the premium price for Prubsn takaful health is expensive than Pru health is due to Prubsn takaful health need to have to paid sedekah.

Is it true?
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post Oct 29 2010, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 29 2010, 08:15 AM)
Pru don't have stand alone medical card?
Based on my observation, the premium price for Prubsn takaful health is expensive than Pru health is due to Prubsn takaful health need to have to paid sedekah.

Is it true?
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Pru don't have stand alone medical card.

The way Takaful Health or PruHealth charging you about the same.

In Takaful, they call it tabaru'
In Conventional ILP insurance, they call it insurance charges

Insurance Charge for PruHealth in fact is higher than Takaful Health Tabaru' for the same age of policy holder / participant.

What I can see PruBSN has Risk Management Charge (i.e. Comprises of the risk management expenses of the Tabarru' Fund).
TH (Risk Management + Tabaru') > PHL (Insurance Charges)
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post Oct 29 2010, 04:31 PM

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I become clearer now

PruHealth must add Prulink One.

PruBSN Takaful Health must add Takaful link.

Am i correct?

If like that then the premium per year for TH400 23yr will higher than RM 1813 because that is the premium for PruBSN Takaful Health before add the premium for Takaful link ?
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post Oct 29 2010, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 29 2010, 04:31 PM)
I become clearer now

PruHealth must add Prulink One.

PruBSN Takaful Health must add Takaful link.

Am i correct?

If like that then the premium per year for TH400 23yr will higher than RM 1813 because that is the premium for PruBSN Takaful Health before add the premium for Takaful link ?
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Yup.

To be more correct, PRUhealth must be attached to PRUlink One and Takaful Health must be attached to Takafulink

PRUlink One and Takafulink plan is the based plan and only cover Death Benefit/TPD. From there you can select lots of rider. One of them is PRUhealth/Takaful Health. You can choose Critical Illness, Hospital Allowance, Disability Income, Accidental Benefit, etc

Yes, the actual figure you need to pay is higher because you need to pay for the basic plan.
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QUOTE(ajau @ Oct 28 2010, 04:42 PM)
Nope.
PruBSN is a takaful operator.

This is I quote from their website:
"Prudential BSN Takaful Berhad (PruBSN) was formed from the partnership of Prudential Holdings (Prudential) and Bank Simpanan Nasional (BSN), two financially strong companies in their respective fields of expertise. In early 2006, PruBSN received the approval from Bank Negara to operate a Takaful business."
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Oic. Now i understand.

One is conventional insurance and one is takaful..
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post Oct 31 2010, 02:22 PM

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recently my friend intro his great eastern agent for me,she talk about their insurance plan,but i still very confusing and cannot compared with other company,i duno which 1 is good or bad,lolz.so i still thinking what insurance have to buy,and what is the term that use in this forum?such as PA,CI?sorry im very new to this.
im 24,still havent have medical card and other insurance.i think my parent buy insurance for me since i was very small,duno what insurance he buy.
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QUOTE(Superkian @ Oct 31 2010, 02:22 PM)
recently my friend intro his great eastern agent for me,she talk about their insurance plan,but i still very confusing and cannot compared with other company,i duno which 1 is good or bad,lolz.so i still thinking what insurance have to buy,and what is the term that use in this forum?such as PA,CI?sorry im very new to this.
im 24,still havent have medical card and other insurance.i think my parent buy insurance for me since i was very small,duno what insurance he buy.
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u should buy medical card 1st.

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To be more correct, PRUhealth must be attached to PRUlink One and Takaful Health must be attached to Takafulink


Which better PRUhealth or PruBSN Takaful Health ?

I feel weird why PruBSN Takaful Health premium is expensive but the coverage is same ?

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QUOTE(Superkian @ Oct 31 2010, 02:22 PM)
recently my friend intro his great eastern agent for me,she talk about their insurance plan,but i still very confusing and cannot compared with other company,i duno which 1 is good or bad,lolz.so i still thinking what insurance have to buy,and what is the term that use in this forum?such as PA,CI?sorry im very new to this.
im 24,still havent have medical card and other insurance.i think my parent buy insurance for me since i was very small,duno what insurance he buy.
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basic: medical card (MUST), CI, PA, huge liability->LIFE
Advance: Saving
Pro: Investment (BUT investment here doesn't mean investment linked)


Added on October 31, 2010, 8:50 pm
QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 31 2010, 02:41 PM)
u should buy medical card 1st.
Which better PRUhealth or PruBSN Takaful Health ?

I feel weird why PruBSN Takaful Health premium is expensive but the coverage is same ?
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Maybe generally looks same but term and condition diff?

This post has been edited by MaxWealth: Oct 31 2010, 08:50 PM
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post Oct 31 2010, 11:51 PM

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Case study and some info for medical insurance
for thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1617847

this is a reply i did.
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post Nov 1 2010, 03:55 PM

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hehe wat u parents bought is the same s most of us...it shud b a life insurance only providing a VERY low insured value (aka when u mati got some cash la)

get a medical card 1st...if u can afford it go with an Investment Linked Plan (u get death benefit (well not u la...cos u died ma) Disability benefit, critical illness benefit (going back to the english word CRITICAL = stage 4, damn serious, u will die if u dun do something stage), room & board, surgical benefit, out patient treatment, maybe put in PA (NOTE TO ALL AGAIN: ONLY CLAIMABLE is the cause of lost (ur life ke or ur limb ke or watever la) was DUE TO AN ACCIDENT, so a natural illness or natural effect PA NO PAY OUT), daily pocket money when u stay in the hospital)

so coming back to wat u wan to compare...it's wat do u really want? so if u really want to compare companies u can get different policy illustration from this forum, s i know v have a GE (thread stater), a Pru, AIA i guess, me i'm from Manulife.

QUOTE(Superkian @ Oct 31 2010, 02:22 PM)
recently my friend intro his great eastern agent for me,she talk about their insurance plan,but i still very confusing and cannot compared with other company,i duno which 1 is good or bad,lolz.so i still thinking what insurance have to buy,and what is the term that use in this forum?such as PA,CI?sorry im very new to this.
im 24,still havent have medical card and other insurance.i think my parent buy insurance for me since i was very small,duno what insurance he buy.
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post Nov 1 2010, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Superkian @ Oct 31 2010, 02:22 PM)
recently my friend intro his great eastern agent for me,she talk about their insurance plan,but i still very confusing and cannot compared with other company,i duno which 1 is good or bad,lolz.so i still thinking what insurance have to buy,and what is the term that use in this forum?such as PA,CI?sorry im very new to this.
im 24,still havent have medical card and other insurance.i think my parent buy insurance for me since i was very small,duno what insurance he buy.
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there are only 5 types of insurance smile.gif

1) Life : pay upon death + (normally with total disability)

2) Critical Illness(CI) : pay upon Critical Illness, (Death or Disability too if it is a traditional CI plan)

3) Medical Card(MC) : Settle or Subsidies Medical Bill

4) Personal Accident(PA) : pay upon accident-caused death ( some with partially / total disability protection)

5) Endowment (saving plan) : Actually is Life Insurance, but having term (year of maturity)

Comprehensive plan, some plan with some other names, is actually part of marketing, to feed the needs of the current market.

Investment Linked is something highly demanded and suitable for youngster in malaysia.

Since it is comprehensive(normally agent will packaged it with Life, critical Illness, Personal Accident and Medical card).
Partially of premium will go into investment(so it is like "saving" too)

Hence it is a good FIRST PLAN to have. Cover all first and then when we got extra budget, we may top up another traditional plan as you wish as long as still healthy smile.gif

This post has been edited by JerryTeh: Nov 3 2010, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(coolpajames @ Nov 1 2010, 03:55 PM)
Superkian

hehe wat u parents bought is the same s most of us...it shud b a life insurance only providing a VERY low insured value (aka when u mati got some cash la)

get a medical card 1st...if u can afford it go with an Investment Linked Plan (u get death benefit (well not u la...cos u died ma) Disability benefit, critical illness benefit (going back to the english word CRITICAL = stage 4, damn serious, u will die if u dun do something stage), room & board, surgical benefit, out patient treatment, maybe put in PA (NOTE TO ALL AGAIN: ONLY CLAIMABLE is the cause of lost (ur life ke or ur limb ke or watever la) was DUE TO AN ACCIDENT, so a natural illness or natural effect PA NO PAY OUT), daily pocket money when u stay in the hospital)

so coming back to wat u wan to compare...it's wat do u really want? so if u really want to compare companies u can get different policy illustration from this forum, s i know v have a GE (thread stater), a Pru, AIA i guess, me i'm from Manulife.
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manulife.

u got wat medical card plan?

mind to elabrate?
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post Nov 1 2010, 08:52 PM

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JerryTeh,

all the types you have named are available in at least two forms: general insurance and life-linked products (raiders attached to a basic policy) i'd like you to elaborate a bit on the general investment vs. life-linked policies in this context. I'd be interested to see what are your arguments pro and con for each.
i guess we also know that there a more than just 5 types of insurance that are worth to consider (outside motor/house). for example personal liability wink.gif

This post has been edited by PJusa: Nov 1 2010, 08:52 PM
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need to amend no 2. it's pay upon CI only bro

QUOTE(JerryTeh @ Nov 1 2010, 04:18 PM)
there are only 5 types of insurance smile.gif

1) Life : pay upon death + (normally with total disability)

2) Critical Illness(CI) : pay upon Critical Illness, Death or Disability

3) Medical Card(MC) : Settle or Subsidies Medical Bill

4) Personal Accident(PA) : pay upon accident-caused death ( some with partially / total disability protection)

5) Endowment (saving plan) : Actually is Life Insurance, but having term (year of maturity)

Comprehensive plan, some plan with some other names, is actually part of marketing, to feed the needs of the current market.

Investment Linked is something highly demanded and suitable for youngster in malaysia.

Since it is comprehensive(normally agent will packaged it with Life, critical Illness, Personal Accident and Medical card).
Partially of premium will go into investment(so it is like "saving" too)

Hence it is a good FIRST PLAN to have. Cover all first and then when we got extra budget, we may top up another traditional plan as you wish as long as still healthy smile.gif
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Added on November 2, 2010, 1:12 amdepends on wat u wanna get...i like to put it s u r renting a 'hotel room' n how much u wan it at.

for all 'hotel room' card ranges from 100, 150, 200, 300, 400 n 500. it only depends on how much u can use it a year and how much u can use it in a lifetime.

for wat i took for myself which was a 300 version. which is in pg 2 of this thread: -

MediCard: 300 (No Co Ins)
Annual Limit: 240k
Lifetime: 600k

AGAIN no co ins means u dun share the TOTAL bil (10% or 500 (or whatever amount) which ever is lower)

AGAIN depending on wat u like...some company provide higher annual limit and some provide higher lifetime limit. it's ur choice...to get more in ur lifetime or get more during that year

QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 1 2010, 05:28 PM)
manulife.

u got wat medical card plan?

mind to elabrate?
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This post has been edited by coolpajames: Nov 2 2010, 01:12 AM
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post Nov 2 2010, 01:14 AM

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Manulife got standalone CI plan or standalone disability income plan?
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QUOTE(Veda @ Oct 25 2010, 03:11 PM)
I have several plans, giving me a combined total of:

CI: RM200k-RM250k  (I'm still tweaking the exact amount)
Medical Card: R&B up to RM500, RM250k annual limit, > 1 million lifetime limit, got deductible
PA: Quite limited. Might get  a few free/cheap PA soon. Personally don't favour paying for PA.
Life: No need, I'm single.

And I'm paying only about RM90 a month. It pays to shop around  brows.gif


Added on October 25, 2010, 3:12 pm

You are a good friend indeed  notworthy.gif
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I refer to the statement "LIFE: NO NEED, I'M SINGLE"
So NOT true... I think a 1-month old baby needs a whole-life policy. Cause nowadays CI=LIFE. My personal opinion.
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QUOTE(ajau @ Oct 24 2010, 09:32 AM)
depend on your purpose.
the answer might be different from one person to another.

Investment link = protection + saving + investment
traditional policy = protection + saving
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Medical card also got traditional plan?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 2 2010, 02:36 PM)
Medical card also got traditional plan?
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There are 2 ways to get medical card:
1. Stand Alone medical card. Usually from GI
2. Attached as a rider to other insurance plan. Usually from Life

For 2nd type, there are few option:
1. attached to ILP
2. attached to traditional plan

Traditional plan could be:
1. Whole life insurance
2. Term life insurance

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QUOTE(vilim @ Nov 2 2010, 01:23 PM)
I refer to the statement "LIFE: NO NEED, I'M SINGLE"
So NOT true... I think a 1-month old baby needs a whole-life policy. Cause nowadays CI=LIFE. My personal opinion.
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Life insurance mainly purpose is when a person passed away that is financial pillar of the family, at least life insurance will compensate the financial pillar loss issue.

1 month baby passed away, it won't affect the family in term of financial.
Also, on chances wise, it is unlikely for 1 month baby to have CI.

If you have extra money to burn or to buy insurance, never mind, it is individual choice.
But for majority people, it is not the case here.

It is very immoral to buy life insurance (death) for baby or even youngster, as you are betting against the death so that you can get financial compensation. My personal view.
When you buy life insurance, you are buying for your family member/dependant, not for you.

Life insurance coverage on death is totally needless for single and no dependant one, but just on CI alone issue only.

Life is not 100% = CI.

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