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post Oct 23 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Oct 23 2010, 12:26 AM)
aureliux & gjtan : tq  rclxms.gif . this was taken at my campus, but sadly now the cat gone missing. (my Uni decide to buang the cats away  sad.gif )

ieR : haha tomorrow im going to times sq , my friend deciding to get a33 or d3100. erm do they have a33/a55 at times sq Sony center and d3100 at Nikon Ctr?? to me no fair woh bringing him to nikon ctr get to play with the D3s+400mm f2.8  sweat.gif  dem poisen
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ahh, why ask me? i not from KL @.@

well, if ur friend is noob, (like me when i first started) those photographer people keep telling me fullframe is good, i tot fullframe is those medium format camera big big... i doubt ur friend will even get poison with D3s, or the price... he knows nothing he wont know the diff from the camera... his mind will be very blank.

A33 vs D3100, surely D3100 will win with the OVF, so much brighter, bigger grip.... unless u are very well prep with A33 knowledge like....

i. fast LV (although its already fulltime LV) capturing speed.
ii. face detection in EVF, like ironman HUD (*edit, and in LV mode too, and smile detection)
iii. it can see few more stop in darkness vs human eye.... mean u cant see in the dark, the camera might able to pick up something
iv. if u shoot under daylight, u cant review photo on the lcd... but EVF can~~
v. the fast AF video... but dont say till soooo FAST, because the mind will keep expecting super speed, dont... just say, its faster then any other camera.
vi. 7fps with AF... (although its pretty much, unused in ur photography journey)
vii. cheaper F58 <poison hard this)
Viii. Alpha cheaper lenses < very important too)
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not forget to mention HDR photo, and pana sweep mode...

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post Oct 23 2010, 12:52 AM

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mastering: D3100 do not have built in motor, it still requires AF-S lens to work. else its full MF only.

ohhh how i wish i have desktop like this
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Added on October 23, 2010, 12:53 amaisks, not silent WAVE motor, that word is for canon ler, their trademark... lol

its just auto focus silent (AF-S) the S never mean its high speed or low speed, but their 70-200 F2.8 is AF-S also but highspeed, while thier 18-105 is AF-S but normal motor.

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post Oct 23 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(eddybeh @ Oct 23 2010, 01:01 AM)
ieR: the most right screen like thingy is a monitor or something else? y have a usb thingy from top?
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Waccom Cintiq 22inch

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Added on October 23, 2010, 1:07 ameugenechiuu: correct....

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post Oct 23 2010, 01:26 AM

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eddy: no no, its not waccom, i was kidding, that thing cost more then A850 la... its just a LCD that can turn 90degree~~~~ it has USB hub built in, so i connect the smaller waccom to it, the keyboard also got hub built in, i connect the mouse to it
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post Oct 23 2010, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(sevenor @ Oct 23 2010, 02:02 AM)
haha zstan, nice to see you over here.  smile.gif

Hi everybody,

Can you guys recommend me some good quality portrait lenses of focal length:
1) 60mm,
2) 70mm or
3) 16-60mm zoom
must be at least f2.8, price rm1-1.5k (possible?)

Sony or other makes also can. I plan to use it with A55 (haven't bought yet).
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let's take it u MUST have F2.8
the only 2 best choice u have is
i)Sigma 18-50 F2.8
ii)Tamron 17-50 F2.8 (new one is 1.7-1.9K, 2nd hand, head down to alphanatics.com, i saw someone selling 1k)

Sony F2.8 are for the Pro series lens which coz over 5k. smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2010, 03:04 AM

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spam some photo...

A300 with SAL50 F1.4 @ F2, iso400, shutterspeed varies... some might like it, some dont, its not a serious photograph, rather a candid moment or having fun and chill'in out wink.gif

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post Oct 23 2010, 03:08 AM

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Added on October 23, 2010, 3:13 am
QUOTE(sevenor @ Oct 23 2010, 02:57 AM)
Thanks ieR for your input.
Correct me if I'm wrong, the guy said his Tamron lens is for Nikon,
so can't be used with A55, right? He also mentioned that it has got
no built-in motor, so does it mean it has no autofocus function?  blink.gif
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huh? alphanatics? alphanatics is for ALPHA users only, only alpha related product can be sold, if nikon lens sure get banned already.

Sony body has built in motor. and sony version of tamron, doesnt has built in motor also.

the tamron lens motor is design for nikon camera that doesnt has built in motor...

are u sure u check the item from ALPHANATICS.COM?

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post Oct 24 2010, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(bigxiaoniu @ Oct 24 2010, 12:18 AM)
Went to 3 camera shops and Sony Style in The Curve area this afternoon to check out the A55. Only 1 shop and Sony Style had it. The body goes for RM2400, if with SAL 1855 lens - RM2800. Wonder how good is this lens and whether I should pass it up, just buy the body save the RM400 and then top it up with another 1k to go for Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 lens instead. Your opinions please guys.

p.s. My photographic preference is portrait and landscapes, and ALWAYS depends on existing lights, no matter how difficult cos I'm yet to be sold on flash photography. Prefer natural lighting. No sports and macro for me.
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you did ur research. and yea... u will end up selling that 18-55 3 month later to get that tamron, might as well do it now.
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post Oct 24 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Oct 24 2010, 12:34 AM)
that's where you dont really know how to poison people la bro...not wide enuff,get tokina 11-16 f2.8... brows.gif
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yea.... or pair the A55 with 300G F2.8! rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 24 2010, 01:04 AM

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bigxiaoniu: i dont have that issue too.

zstan has to wait for me to go KL to help him fix that A300... or just buy new one la... A33 or 55 or 580... ur A300 is very cacat ler >.<
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post Oct 24 2010, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 24 2010, 01:05 AM)
yeah. just buy the lens lor.  acceptably sharp at wide open too.  smile.gif


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ehhhhhhhhhhh.... i thought you say is lens problem not body problem? ><
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i have to see the unit myself then can judge,... if its partly body, then see if can be calibrated... if its comfirm lens, then can send back for warranty, tamron carries 2 year now ma.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 25 2010, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(joejoe2004 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:57 AM)
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1. u have a vid cam for HD video.
2. u dont really need that iso shown in VF, u can leave it to auto iso(which is reliable already), or when u are in studio shoot, u wont be changing it often,
3. tokina11-16 F2.8 is more of event lens, for landscape, we always shoot F8 above, killing the point of having a F2.8
4. Sigma lens issue, i tot sigma distributer offered for FREE Chip replacement for the compatible issue?
5. oh btw, all camera can use in studio. i seen A33(should be same as A55) in work in studio... confuse with the issue u mention.
6. our friend, CJLai, brought A33 (i think) and tested it over 20 minute of video in house without air conditioning. no problem.
7. on point #1, if u dont need video on camera, u pretty much settled on A580
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post Oct 25 2010, 01:47 PM

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8tvt : well...
QUOTE(hazril @ Oct 25 2010, 11:05 AM)

"which camera lens feels comfortable in your hands,thats the one" smile.gif
hahaha... i guess more people like the look or feel on tamron? just a guess... i know i like tamron more... tamron fanboy > ieR
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post Oct 25 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(joejoe2004 @ Oct 25 2010, 05:23 PM)
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Thks for your view ieR.... smile.gif
- on the F setting, in most cases, at F8 image normally will be sharp but must be vary also on the lens limitation (on lens distraction)...at extreme low aperture image can become soft.  <---- Read too many review already!!! Really poison!!  tongue.gif
- According to Sigma, yes there will replace the chip for free but I do not know how to go about it in Malaysia..... otherwise they said look for the A33/A55 sticker.  Well, I haven't done any shopping yet and not sure about this.

Well, whatever it is, next month sure will be the "ikat perut" month, savings go to A580!!! Thanks again..


Added on October 25, 2010, 5:26 pm
Aiyoo, this one is a dangerous poison will give me unstoppable bleed!!! Luckily immune system for this one still "STRONG", for how long don't know........ tongue.gif
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1. joe, base on my experience, most lens has very good sweet spot at F8, but even let say diffraction happens at F8, honesly, unless u pixel peep, then only u will see the softness.. or u blow up a 50x80 inch photo. else, its nearly unnoticeable. u said u wan a UWA for landscape, but UWA has more distortion issue far worst then a mere diffraction that's not as noticeable then distortion. dont read too much review and get urself confuse. get one camera and shoot, and u will learn that u have much much more other thing to worry about then a mere diffraction or softness. if u wan me to poison u with more review, go read barrel distortion and pin cushion distortion... that way, u will never end up buying any lens because there is no perfect lens smile.gif

btw diffraction usually happen after really high aperture, like F16 onwards... some starts only at F22. but i cant imagine those macro shooter that shoot at f16, their photo are sharper then ever!

2. just when u go the a shop to buy, ask for the newest sigma, or pay downpayment and ask them to order u the lastest one. reject it if it doesnt has that sticker. smile.gif

can use creditcard what, 12 month installment whistling.gif hehehehe
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post Oct 25 2010, 09:31 PM

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8tvt play around, F8 is standard, actually, F8 is standard for FF (due to their low DOF on large sensor) meaning, at F5.6 on aps-c, u can get almost near F8 FF dof. alright, not to confuse u futher... depending how wide u shoot, the longer mm u shoot, more aperture is need if u need everything to be sharp. F8 is just a sweetspot i use, some can get really sharp photo at F5.6. F10 is not an issue, or F11.... we do those lighttrails with F22. smile.gif the diffraction is not a big dig if u dont think of it as a big deal smile.gif take it with a pinch of salt.

joejoe2004 only Sony Stlye Maybank creditcard allows 24month installment. any maybank CC allows 12 month. other banks installment is dependent on merchant.

QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 25 2010, 07:50 PM)
Survey:

How many batteries do you all have? Whr to get charger for charging 2 batteries one shot?
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which? AA or camera batt pack?

AA i have 16. i use 4slot charger... well, i cant even finish 1 set batt in one day. and the charger can fast charge within 90min.

fm500 2 biji... 1 backup... its hard to use finish 1 batt in one day also.

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Oct 25 2010, 09:55 PM)
ok.. most wide 18mm.. can get sharp from F5.6 - F16?
i tried F22 becoming blurred edy..  sweat.gif
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of coz, f22 diffraction is really obvious already.

i think simple just stick with F8... not too much, not too little. just nice smile.gif
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i owned a F20. i use it for my traveling flash. it will have enough power for indoor ceiling not taller then 4meter, and distance bounce not further then 8 meter. for direct, it can do pretty far.

but if u plan to play with "WL FLASH" or becomes a "EVENT" shooter... get a F58, save a little more and no regrets.
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evanttc: i brought the F20 after i own several F58. the purpose is simple. i wan it small and light (like reason why ppl get nex) for traveling.

i have several friends who gotten F20 first (they thinks like u too, a small flash, cheap, can bounce will do the same?) well, they are wrong... after shooting their children for 2 month, they listen and get a F58, they never regretted since, its so much easier to shoot their children now, since the F58 can cope with burst mode (F20 cant really cope with burst)

*edit: not only that, i have friend who got nissin flash... and they wanted to sell it, but cant. no value. and nissin, has very inconsistent TTL, so u end up playing with manual power more... but its just waste of time and moments gone. the only 3rd party flash that is reliable is the Metz flash, but sadly, Metz flash is more expensive then F58...@.@ hahahaha.

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Oct 26 2010, 01:08 PM)
u know what.. since the day i get the DSLR.. and spend alot..
why not i just proceed first with a decent setup (ofcourse step by step)..

coz with a lack of other gadget, the dslr camera output becoming like a normal pns camera..

i need those good lenses and flash, atleast i can produce something not like normal pns camera..

otherwise it's remain useless to spend much at the first place.. coz i can do right with normal camera..
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+1 i agree... but not everyone who buys a DSLR wan to jump to seasonal shooter. some are just family shooter looking for better iso and iq then compacts smile.gif and before jumping into good gear, why not master the basics first?

QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 26 2010, 01:25 PM)
lol.. i think we all have that little 'gear-head' in us... but we must control it and GET only what we really NEED... smile.gif

i tot f20 is for those a850 and a900 users who want to use it as a wireless flash trigger for strobist action?

or those who want to replace their broken built-in pop-up flash?
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F20 can be anything, or any reason... noone is stopping anyone from buying... all u need to know, the uses of F20 and weakness/thing that it cant do, then u will know why or why not u need the flash smile.gif

(anyhow, i got my F20 for 299 new unit... that why i got it)

QUOTE(fansoption @ Oct 26 2010, 03:41 PM)
Any one use this FDA-M1AM Magnifier for larger viewing viewfinder? that is good for macro?
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i tried it once, not really helpful on my A300, it also deactivate the eye-start AF...
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post Oct 26 2010, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Oct 26 2010, 05:39 PM)
i think most can afford and really need the dslr at the first place should be familiar with the basics..
already played with the settings in normal camera.. then took a plunge to dive more..

otherwise no need to start with mid/high range camera.. lowerend dslr with a decent gadget would good enough..
and nowadays.. the advance spec can be get for a cheaper price.. very lucky..

if willing to pay for a better camera.. why not the flash at least...  nod.gif
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nowaday compact hardly got manual setting lor (mostly force auto mode)... those has semi manual ones, are 1.6k above, might as well buy sony A290 straight? LOL

a flash is very depending oh, with the new A33/55/560/580, the multi iso, 6400 acceptable, maybe sony future will lead 'available light' photography in future.

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