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post Nov 11 2010, 10:07 AM

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either kvr w/ bdbg or gskill eco/ripjaws should be decent buy. smile.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Nov 11 2010, 10:30 AM)
that's would be a major upgrade..
need to observe the pricing..
not yet maybe coz.. so gatal for a new gpu..  cool.gif
kvr should ok.. but where can be found..
err.. gskill eco using which chip? coz the voltage is low..  unsure.gif
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bbse (older batch)/relabelled chippies (newer batch). bbse need higher volts. smile.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 11 2010, 10:37 AM)
HD6870 i presume??  brows.gif  brows.gif
Bro RV770 already in the hause meh? Why didn't u jump to Barts straight away?  sweat.gif
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yup bro, just in d house lastnite & outta house very soon. barts = lotsa $$$, thinkin of gettin low end 5750s to play, any comment bro? 5770 still expensive. price wise, 5750 is like 66% of a 5770... drool.gif

3850 x-fire oc'ed (X6 @ 4/4.25GHz), 3dmark @ 20k
4850 x-fire oc'ed (x6 @ 4GHz), 3d mark 06 @ 22k
5770 x-fire oc'ed (X6 @ 4.25GHz), 3d mark 06 @ 25k

game play wise, 5770 x-fire is d best... DIRT: setting everything ultra @ 1920 x 1200 silky smooth, 4850 x-fire medium slightly lag sometimes, 3850 x-fire, ermmm... no comment... tongue.gif

how's ya geil ultra doin bro? recovered from high volt sickness ledi? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 11 2010, 11:16 AM)
Lai lai come buy my 5770 cheap so i can play2 with barts :/P Been thinking bout xfire 5770 too but hand also itchy wanting to test barts :/lol:
Still not recovering bro, donno why still cannot run stably at 1.57~1.58v as before, now running at 1.6v  :/hmm:
x nak high end card bro, 5770 considered high end to me... laugh.gif 5750 x-fire should be near to 5830 at least, not bad for very2 casual gamer like me. i dun game as hard as u guys... smile.gif

another 0.03v? hmm... did u stress d ram @ higher freq w/ higher volt? i noticed that's what happened to mine. hmm.gif


QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 11 2010, 12:24 PM)
Waahh.....you guys 3DMark 06 so high~~

My Gainward 4870 GS OC to 835/1150 manage to net only 16255 marks with my FX 5000 at 3.3Ghz XD
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cpu score does matter bro... put on x6 then diff story liao... brows.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Nov 11 2010, 11:33 PM)
oh, the phenom ii x6 1065t is 95w version. brows.gif
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95 watt or not, it depends on batch. there was a 95 watter 1055t bulk order here in sg. almost all users weren't happy w/ their chip... smile.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Nov 12 2010, 02:52 AM)
i thought 95w version should be good in overclock? unsure.gif
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i'm not sayin all 95watter are bad clockers thou, just that there'll always be black sheep in a family. some more, those shown in xs usually are cherry picked chips, so... unsure.gif

i'm puttin high hope on 1065t, but still, d multi still a tad low, to me at least... sad.gif
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Nov 12 2010, 08:16 AM)
So 1055t is the better choice?
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not really, it depends on d clock, ram & imc freq mileage a chip can offer.

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 12 2010, 08:20 AM)
The 1055T also got bad batch what..  sweat.gif
It depends on ur luck i think, if u got lucky u get a supa sweet batch but if u don't, u be like me always getting a lemon, no wonder i like to drink lemon tea laugh.gif
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choi!!! i love ice lemon tea too bro... tongue.gif
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no result to post but got a picture of state of d art amd rig to share. d best lookin amd rig i've ever seen... drool.gif lust.gif wub.gif

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source: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2982091
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 13 2010, 01:00 AM)
Wow thats one mighty fine setup there  shocking.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif wish mine was like that wub.gif
What case is that? HAF-X?? Dangermod sleaves somemore drool.gif
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yup bro... that kinda setup make me wet my pant... d only thing missin there is another 5970... this kinda highest end rig must have x-fire setup... tongue.gif

it's a haf932 be... unisleeved psu... very2 tedious job... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 13 2010, 06:20 PM)
Looks like its using artic cooling fans there, from my experience with them, they are not that noisy hmm.gif
Wish i got 4000 SG, then ask ah_khoo to buy it for me, only takut ah_khoo doesn't want to gip me after that laugh.gif
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they're scythe gentle typhoon bro... from d name itself i guess they're quite... smile.gif

will be havin that kinda budget come next month, but if i really use it for d rig i'll be sleepin outside (in stead of my bed) for whole year long... laugh.gif tongue.gif sweat.gif

even ram oso wc... d arrangement + neatness of d case is something we don't see everyday. drool.gif

my case is like, ermmm... no comment ... doh.gif


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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 13 2010, 07:31 PM)
eh guys..esp unker
what ramchip clock well with tight timing low freq compared to high freq loose timings?
and 2t improves alot compared to 1t

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psc... but 6-8-6 @ 1600 not tight really tight coz i consider only 6-6-6 as tight... tongue.gif

never really try 2t but if it boosts significant mileage, why not givin it a go. wink.gif

gud job there... ironically in some cases (like mine), athlon II can do slightly tighter timing @ lower freq (1800 & below) if compared to thuban... unsure.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 14 2010, 12:14 AM)
ok..sorry..lemme rephrase..  blush.gif

it can do well with low freq tighter timing compared to high freq loosen timing

Psc? low binned/profile psc? for the command rate..i take back my words.. it wont improve much, as usual.
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(from my noob experience) u know it (havin normal~low grade psc chippies) when:

1. trcd can never equal to cl @ high freq
2. voltage used is not as high as elpidas (bar hyper which i never try)
3. 7-8-7/7-9-7 is good for 1900 ish

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 14 2010, 12:33 AM)
unker..this is another question to ask.. i wonder this only happen to me or anyone else
as example, the ram respond well up to 1.60vdimm..
if u put 1.7v what will happen?
in my case, the more u put, the more unstable the system will be.. .. isit my PSU cause this? mobo,proc,ram all changed still having same problem..
as much as possible, i dun like to overvolt (pump voltage higher than d one able to make it stable) d ram. i always feel that runnin ram @ high volt for 24/7 will cause ram to degrade. smile.gif

most of d time more volt won't hurt, but there're cases where more isn't always d better. yas mite just be one of those. btw, can u define "unstable" stated? fail in benchies/prime or bsod/restart? hmm.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 14 2010, 11:12 AM)
Demmm, only now i know if u wanna go 2000Mhz ram speed on ur Thuban u need special Gskill Flares made specially for X6.. :/sweat:

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From the reviews it said Powerchip chippies works best on AMD chips instead of those Elpidas etc..

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ur slow bro... tongue.gif yup, only flare are binned specially for thuban. nod.gif

psc chippies are good for high freq (> 2k) while hypers are good for 1900ish @ 6-6-6. given d capability of imc differ from chip to chip, it's a safer bet to put money on hyper instead of psc. not all chip can do > 2k on ram easily. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Nov 14 2010, 02:43 PM)
Damn. That's an extremely neat rig. Plus, the Seasonic X-750? :/hmm:. Wish I had the money to buy sleevings and get my rig as nice as yours /:cry:.
i wish i got a rig like that too but sadly it isn't mine. sad.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 14 2010, 08:25 PM)
u guys have any idea?
the evo run naked since bought.. so i often use screwdriver to turn on the system..

now the prob is.
once there is electric flow, the mobo will auto on (by looking at fans) without pushing the on switch
and turn off back after 2secs.
after that, push the switch wont make the mobo on. it will stay off..

i wonder if it is dead.. if dead, there will be no more TD-V.. aiya :/cry:
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sad to hear that. have u tried plugin out battery & all power source for long hours? hope things will be back to normal. smile.gif

it's knda amazin that a pair of cheapo 5750 can score almost close to a pair of 5770 hawk... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 14 2010, 09:19 PM)
ok.like this

1.52vdimm 5mins fail
1.54vdimm 10mins fail
1.60vdimm 1hr stable
1.64vdimm 10mins fail
1.66vdimm 5mins fail..

u get the idea? all use the same prime setting..
i'd say ram/imc related... can i assume higher volt doesn't help to improve ram mileage? hmm.gif
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something new, not as gud as d eco but i can say they're almost in d same league. not kvr too. kinda disappointed with d 1st run attempt... will try out more tomorrow... sad.gif

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btw, Selamat Hari Raya Haji to all d Muslim bros here... may u all have a wonderful time with ya frens & family... smile.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 17 2010, 07:06 AM)
@ah_khoo
that is absolutely kingston..right?
KHX?

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well..passed 1hr..but failed  doh.gif  doh.gif ahh..

well..
SELAMAT HARI RAYA TOO..
this is my 1st holiday since raya puasa..
so i wont go anywhere.. sleep taim!!
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nope, not kingston... smile.gif

very2 good result there, a 'lil more tweak then ur good to go... vdimm used is? unsure.gif

a slight improvement... seems like d 1090 doesn't like 1600 divider... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 17 2010, 06:19 PM)
2nd attempt.. corsair dom...
and unker..that is not a slight improvement.. that is hell of improvement.. cl8 > 6

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ok.. can i consider this 1700mhz ?  :/lol:
1704 primed for about 1hr..but before i able to take the snapshot, restarted  :/sweat:  :/sweat:
near the wall d
this is what i call slight..kekekek
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nope... corsair aint my cup of tea, unless dom gt... tongue.gif

am speechless.... kvr runnin 1700 @ 6-8-6? that's insane... master class oc... thumbup.gif notworthy.gif rclxms.gif

QUOTE(rzs77 @ Nov 17 2010, 08:40 PM)
hey guys, noobie here...sorry if it has been asked before but have any of you guys encountered problems of taking a phenom II 965 over 4ghz?

I've managed to push it to 4.03Ghz but the extremely high voltage worries me. have a look at the screen shot below and please comment  smile.gif

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I can get it to 3.9Ghz with ~1.45V but i don't get why it requires so much more to achieve the extra 100mhz rclxub.gif
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of all deneb i've tried, there's none i can reach 4GHz prime stable @ quad w/ air coolin. i think it's more of chip + coolin limitation unless ur gettin very lucky to have a golden batch. 3.9GHz (quad) is not much of a hassle thou especially w/ decent batch of c3... smile.gif


2k done, same timing w/ d eco but higher volt... sad.gif

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 17 2010, 09:31 PM)
Hello, first time posting here brows.gif
changed from vrz to here because vrz amd thuban oc thread very "cold" sweat.gif
1st question:
how to test 8GB ram by using prime95?
the default blend test only use up ~40% of my ram,
now trying the custom stress test but really no clue how to set:
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welcome onboard bro, glad to see u here. vrz is full of intel fanboy... tongue.gif

for blend test, i always use custom with:
1. min fft @ 8
2. max fft @ 4096
3. memory to use at least half of ya total ram size
4. time to run @ 1 minute

*cpu test is 8-512k, so if i want a quick test on ram only, i'll use 1024~4096. dunno how accurate it is but i'd say blend test is still d safest way for all components stressin. smile.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 17 2010, 10:15 PM)
unker.. just got lucky to bought a nice pair of KVR..well fyi this is not the prev KVR with bdbg..this is due to hengmy's poison..and he can do 2k while im not able to run at high freq at all..
plus my rams all runs with higher volt compared to ya.. this was done with 1.72vdimm.. so far higher then urs..  sweat.gif

er...then what ram is that.. i gave up..
i can only think KHX or corsair that usually using cl=trcd=trp
yup, i'm aware of that. looks like kingston still maintain d tradition of given out good chippies on kvr, just that it's more confusin this time coz buyin relabeled chip sticks can be 2 edge sword, if u get good chippies then voila, but if d chippies are alibaba, then... cry.gif

something value but no so value (around 50% more expensive) than kvr. keep guessin... btw, i really miss my old 1055t, this 1090t is makin d eco 1333 & its compatriot looks like normal ram. sad.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 19 2010, 11:00 AM)
Bye bye eco bro? U wanna gip me ker?  :/hehe:  :/hehe:  :/drool:  :/P
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nolah, just realized how gud (my own standard lah, to others mebe so so only tongue.gif ) is d eco if compared to this mysterious ram. if u want this pm me... doubt so thou coz it's not as gud as ya geil ultra imo (but it'll definitely looks gud on ya chiv brows.gif ). wink.gif

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Nov 20 2010, 10:50 PM)
got the 1055t. tried overclocking, wouldn't post past 210mhz lol. guess my batch not so good.. still, quick enough for lil' me.
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there's no way a thuban can't oc pass 210, even w/ stock multi. ram holdin u back mebe? what's d ram & board runnin atm? hmm.gif

QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 21 2010, 03:18 AM)
When overclocking non-BE cpu, you have to take care other part as well.
if you are raising HTT, eg 210,
HyperTransport clock, Ram clock, northbridge and your cpu clock will raise as well.

experienced ppl usually will make large jump on HTT clocks, eg 250/300mhz,
then decrease the HTT, NB, RAM multiplier so they will run @ stock speed.
do this only if you want to oc your cpu.

oc black edition cpu is much easier tongue.gif
because you only have to adjust the vcore and cpu multiplier.
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it really depend how u oc, for benchers all they care are high cpu clock & imc freq, ram wise benchers usually use tight timing around 2k that's why most of d time they opted BE chips. playin w/ BE chips not necessarily mean takin short cuts coz not everyone into multi oc, but for sure they'll have more option when it comes to maximizin clock/freq for all as in cpu clock, nb & ram freq... nod.gif

& not all BE chips clock well w/ ram. unsure.gif

QUOTE(louislkw @ Nov 21 2010, 12:29 PM)
That is not possible even with a bitter and lemonade chip for barely 10mhz increased.
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exactly sir, i'll bet my BE chip on that. laugh.gif

QUOTE(archonixm @ Nov 21 2010, 01:44 PM)
Is MSI 870-G45 a good overclocking board?
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not bein bias but there are better options out there, be it asus, giga or even biostar. smile.gif

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Nov 21 2010, 09:58 PM)
Oh, so what is your recommendation for sub 300 mobo that is a good o/cer?
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tbh, it's kinda hard to get a 8xx based board w/ that budget. if budget is fixed @ not more than RM300, i'd rather get giga's 770t-ud3 (RM278@viewnet, 8+1pwm thumbup.gif )if cf is not a concern. if budget slightly flexible, i reckon ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 is not a bad choice. @ RM325 (czone), u got a real 8xx based board, pwm is not perfect @ 4+1 but u get turbo-v which make fine tuning in windows alot easier. nod.gif

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