Yup! All you need is wait untill get key, then start installment & MOT......

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Added on March 7, 2011, 8:46 pmGreat!
You buy for investment?

1) ng168 (myself) - Own stay
2) lchoong78 - Own stay
3) cybertechmkteo - investment
4) carlhoe - investment
5) kencha - Own stay
6) nha82 - Own stay
7) stabella – investment
8) PUPUMAMA – investment ??

This post has been edited by ng168: Mar 7 2011, 08:50 PM

Yup, to flip.

Ng168,
Tx! Sry ar...I'm newbie,....Wat is MOT? If h dun mind to explain to me...lol

MOT is a memorandum of transfer...it is a document specifically form 14A of the National Land COde 1960 which transfers the strata title from the developer/proprietor to the owner

This post has been edited by nha82: Mar 8 2011, 10:23 AM

welcome to those newbie and happy to know the price has increased...good to us...i really agreed with pupu said the quality and material given by 288 is more worthy.

nha82,

Tx for explaination...so this MOT is payment when the master title split to strata title? i guess

true true but what i like most is the fact that it is a low density area..no offence to PV but just looking at PV areas literally make me feel all choked up.

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Added on March 8, 2011, 11:32 amYes and the stamping price of MOT depends on the value of the property..this unfortunately is not paid by the developer so gotta save up money for this one when the time comes...i did try wen taking the loans to ask the bankers if they absorp MOT 's stamping duty..but no banks are willing so it means that the property really does have value and banks couls afford to not us ethat as an incentive to take loans with them..



This post has been edited by nha82: Mar 8 2011, 11:32 AM

these pay 5% if 90% loan by bank..how about 70% LTV? then hv to pay 25% to developer?

what i like abt 288 is where they let u know what kind of branded amenities that u are going to get.

Compare with the 4ever not confirm SG. But by looking at the track record, Sg is hardly disappointing, it is just on paper, 288 always seems better.

Let me korek more bullet.

by the time when u korek ur bullet our 288 sudah pun habis di jual

i suggest u buy more on ur SG la.

I did noticed on the launching day, the units are sold almost 90%.. I was wondering if it included those units reserves by quota for bumi lot? and any ???

yes..i double confirmed with them that MOT purchaser have to bear for themselves.
Do you guys have any information about the car park selling for buyer lately?

hahah, u have no humor at all.

found u getting more and more sarcastic these days.

no humour is bcoz depend reply wif who LOL...

depend whether who i reply to LOL...

they said left about 10-20% MORE UNIT. the % is uncertain being told by officer. I am unsure how many bumi unit being reserve. as i know most of the buyers are chi...i think the sold unit is included in the blocked unit as i have been encountered last time with uoa too.

Any idea estimately how much will the MOT cost??

MOT = Memorandum of Transfer

Charge also based on property value

LAW & REALTY: Stamp duty payable
Contributed by Bernard Kok Yin Fook
Friday, 17 August 2007 06:17am
©The Sun (Used by permission)
by Bernard Kok

A PURCHASER of a property, besides paying legal fees to his solicitors, will have to pay to the Collector of Stamp Duties stamp duty on the Sale and Purchase Agreement; the Memorandum of Transfer; and if he is taking a loan to finance the purchase of the property and charged the property as security, he will have to pay stamp duty on the facility or Loan Agreement and the Memorandum of Charge.

(a) How to calculate the stamp duty payable

The stamp duty chargeable on the Sale and Purchase Agreement is RM10 each. With regard to the Memorandum of Transfer, the rates of the duty are as follows:-

For every RM100 or fractional part of RM100 of the contract price or the market value of the property, whichever shall be greater –

(i) RM1 on the first RM100,000.00;

(ii) RM2 on any amount in excess of theRM100,000 but not exceeding RM500,000; and

(iii) RM3 on any amount in excess of RM500,000.

For example, the stamp duty on a Memorandum of Transfer for a property worth RM500,000 is calculated as follows:-

FIRST RM100,000 RM1 x RM100,000 ÷ RM100
= RM1,000
BALANCE RM400,000 RM2 x RM400,000 ÷ RM100
= RM8,000
TOTAL STAMP DUTY PAYABLE:
RM9,000

In case of the purchaser is taking a loan and charged the property as a security, it is common practice now to treat the Loan or Facility Agreement as principal instrument and the charge as subsidiary instrument. In the aforesaid circumstances, the principal instrument will be charged with ad valorem duty whereas the subsidiary instrument will be charged only RM10.

The ad valorem duty for the principal instrument of a loan is calculated at RM5 for each RM1,000 or part thereof. For example, if the loan is RM400,000, the stamp duty payable is calculated as follows:-

RM5 x RM400,000 ÷ RM1,000 = RM2,000

(b) When a document is to be stamped

Sale and Purchase Agreement, Loan or Facility Agreement and Charge executed in Malaysia are to be stamped within 30 days of their execution. If the Sale and Purchase Agreement, Loan or Facility Agreement and Charge are executed outside Malaysia, the time for stamping the same is 30 days after they have been first received in Malaysia.

As for the Memorandum of Transfer, it has to be sent to the Stamp Office for adjudication to determine whether the stamp duty is chargeable based on the contract price or the market value of the property. The Memorandum of Transfer shall be stamped within 30 days from the date of the notice of assessment.

© Objection to the value assessed

In the event the market value assessed by the Collector of Stamp Duties is greater than the contract price, the stamp duty chargeable will be based on the market value instead of the contract price.

If the purchaser is dissatisfied with the assessment, he may object to the assessment by giving written notice to the Collector of Stamp Duties within 30 days from the date of assessment. The purchaser shall provide particulars and information to support his objection. The Collector of Stamp Duties may on review, cancel the original assessment if it appears to him that the original assessment is excessive and substitute with a fresh assessment or maintain the same assessment if it appears to him that the original assessment is not excessive.

However, the purchaser, in making objection to the original assessment, is not relieved from paying the duty based on the original assessment within 30 days from the date of the original notice of assessment.

Therefore, it would be advisable that the purchaser pays the duty under protest and at the same time pursue with the objection.

If he succeeds in the objection, he may recover the excess stamp duty paid from the Collector of Stamp Duties. If the purchaser is not satisfied with the review by the Collector of Stamp Duties, he may appeal to the High Court within 21 days after the purchaser is notified in writing the result of the review.

(d) Penalty on document not stamped within time

If a document is not stamped within the timeframe, the purchaser will have to pay, in addition to the stamp duty payable, a penalty and the rates of the penalty are as follows:-

(i) RM25 or 5% of the duty, whichever shall be greater, if the same is stamped within three months after the time of stamping;

(ii) RM50 or 10% of the duty, whichever shall be greater, if the same is stamped later than three months but not later than six months after the time of stamping;

(iii) RM100 or 20% of the duty, whichever shall be greater, if the same is stamped later than six months after the time of stamping.

The purchaser may appeal to the Collector of Stamp Duties for reduction of penalty and the Collector of Stamp Duty may consider the purchaser’s appeal if he thinks fit.

(e) Consequences of a document not duly stamped

A document which is not stamped or insufficiently stamped is not void or unenforceable for that reason alone. However, such document may be rejected as evidence if it is required to be produced before the Court. In that event, the party who wishes to produce the unstamped or insufficiently stamped document will have to pay the stamp duty payable and penalty before such document can be received as evidence.

Notwithstanding the abovementioned proposition in law, the Legal Profession (Practice and Ettiquette) Rules 1978 has provided that it is unethical for a lawyer to object to such documents from being produced unless the objection goes to the root of the subject matter of the litigation.

The writer is a member of the Conveyancing Practice Committee, Bar Council, Malaysia www.malaysianbar.org.my.

Note: This column is brought to you by the Malaysian Bar Council for your information only. It does not constitute legal advice. You should, therefore, seek professional legal advice for your specific needs. Neither the Malaysian Bar nor the Sun Media Corp Sdn Bhd shall be liable to any reader who suffers losses as a result of relying on this column.

Wow... Tats a lot to go through, but very helpful indeed. Thanks a lot!

Want to share ammunition to shoot for more unit?

Hey man! Both projects are good buy and having flaws as well alright:-

My opinion as genuine buyer:-

288 Pros - good material, freebies, low entry cost (pay nothing else after 5% downpayment), SPA purchase price is before rebate, freehold
Cons - 1 car park, 3 lifts, 1st record high price psf in setapak, unknown developer

SG Pros - 2 car park, 6 lifts, reputable developer, greenery, freehold
Cons - 2nd record high price psf in setapak, high entry cost, addtional 6k legal fee

So you decide.

PS : I haven't attest SG show unit, not sure how good or bad is it..but if more or less like bangsar south, it should be fine.

This post has been edited by SG hardcore: Mar 8 2011, 10:46 PM