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> Malaysia engineers are very lazy unlike Germans, GERMANY official had spoken to Malaysia.

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post Oct 5 2010, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Oct 5 2010, 12:03 AM)
because they are forced to.. boss say overtime.. overtime loh wink.gif  but i do have to say sg eng try to finish everything as fast as possible.. anything as long work nvr mind
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are you sure they are being forced to work overtime?? hmm.gif hmm.gif

i dont think so man..its all on how do you commit yourself to your work..
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Flaming_lion @ Oct 5 2010, 12:03 AM)
Actually, this is very true... Mainly because in schools and college or uni, students are not thought to think in such ways...

Malaysian bosses believe that employees = slaves... The moment you don't OT, they question your loyalty to the company... Even by law, employees cannot work more than 48 hours in a week (if I'm not mistaken)... And yet, you can see the enforcement is so bad... You'll find that employees are not willing to compromise since they've got no choice...

But most Malaysians don't see this is the root cause of all those racial problems..
Exactly... In Malaysia, bosses will claim, "why reduce productivity??? Force employee stay back and work 12 hours... Afterall, we paying big salary (when actually, the employee is only earning peanuts)"...
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as if sgpura boss not like that. when recession hit, they pecat you on the spot merciless even you work 10+ yrs. malaysia got labor law protection.

who say malaysia employees = slave, some boss in malaysia company sked to offend workers coz they will cabut if got better offer. and yet some employee volunteer to work until 10pm-11pm to finish task coz responsiblity. you tak taui don simply insult malaysia engineers. sgpura engrs where got like that. go intel see yourself see what time they work until.
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Avex @ Oct 5 2010, 12:04 AM)
Malaysial engineers are very lazy unlike Germans lol
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screw you, u go to sgpura and don come back.
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:07 AM

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bos : today overtime finish project

u: ok, got OT pay or not ?

boss: tak ada

u: RAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:08 AM

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not all malay are lazy , in my office got this 1 malay dude very hardworking

or should i say he hardcore !

but i do agree not many malay got this kind of attitude .

that why my boss liek him very much .
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:12 AM

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haha the space-tourist, Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor is a joke and blemish to human space explore forever! Good job Sheikh, now everyone in the world knew mAlaysia!
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 5 2010, 12:06 AM)
as if sgpura boss not like that. when recession hit, they pecat you on the spot merciless even you work 10+ yrs. malaysia got labor law protection.

who say malaysia employees = slave, some boss in malaysia company sked to offend workers coz they will cabut if got better offer. and yet some employee volunteer to work until 10pm-11pm to finish task coz responsiblity. you tak taui don simply insult malaysia engineers. sgpura engrs where got like that. go intel see yourself see what time they work until.
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This is the exact problem that is plaguing Malaysia.What's with the people scold you, you talk about your neighbour habit? People scold you, then get your ass straight and face the criticism. Don't go: "oh but he also like that what". Chinese has a saying: wrong then you admit, let people pukul then you stand straight.

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post Oct 5 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(nvidia2006 @ Oct 5 2010, 12:03 AM)
Well they must have done something right, the country has been relatively alright through the past 15 years and through major global economic strife. Some Aussies work hard, some smart, some are slackers. But things are more organised, that helps maybe.
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done something right? aye they have.

but hte reason why its going good for the last 15 years is due to the resource boom, and shit its boomin' here. a miner can earn up to 3k per month. knew some filipino miner lads who drove dodges damn cool. pre that era aus is like the f***? heck perth was a ghost town back then, heck it was terrible.

but to call the casual aussie hardowkring? bah, while i call malaysians lazy these bunch aint that much of an ox either

heck if its sunny and happy outside, they dont really work
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Oct 5 2010, 12:05 AM)
OT nvr mind.. overtime but nvr pay  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Ya la... Most companies are like that in Malaysia... Plus, there's no cap on extra working hours... Government should do something about it... Kids are growing up without even seeing their parents at home... That's just sad...

QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 5 2010, 12:06 AM)
as if sgpura boss not like that. when recession hit, they pecat you on the spot merciless even you work 10+ yrs. malaysia got labor law protection.

who say malaysia employees = slave, some boss in malaysia company sked to offend workers coz they will cabut if got better offer. and yet some employee volunteer to work until 10pm-11pm to finish task coz responsiblity. you tak taui don simply insult malaysia engineers. sgpura engrs where got like that. go intel see yourself see what time they work until.
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Dude... you misinterpreted my statement... I'm not condemning engineers la... I'm talking about employment in general...

I'm not an engineer, so I'm can't talk about engineers... But yeah, I'm talking as in, Malaysian Bosses in general... I remember when I was working, my boss will give assignments and task until cannot finish during working hours, have to stay back extra 4 - 5 hours a day... Plus OT paid and no medical claim...

I've had some really bad experiences in that company... Its a fact... Malaysians aren't getting paid for the effort they put in... Malaysian bosses usually don't recognize the hard work employees put... I know this cuz I've seen really shit stuff in front of my eyes...

R u a some sort of manager? lol!
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Oct 5 2010, 12:12 AM)
haha the space-tourist, Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor is a joke and blemish to human space explore forever! Good job Sheikh, now everyone in the world knew mAlaysia!
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at least he went to space and can open his eyes more...what about us bro??? cry.gif cry.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(zack85 @ Oct 5 2010, 12:14 AM)
at least he went to space and can open his eyes more...what about us bro??? cry.gif  cry.gif
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bukan mcm tu lar bang... i means, government's intention to send that fella to space. Instead of being proud it became a joke.
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Flaming_lion @ Oct 5 2010, 12:13 AM)
Ya la... Most companies are like that in Malaysia... Plus, there's no cap on extra working hours... Government should do something about it... Kids are growing up without even seeing their parents at home... That's just sad...
Dude... you misinterpreted my statement... I'm not condemning engineers la... I'm talking about employment in general...

I'm not an engineer, so I'm can't talk about engineers... But yeah, I'm talking as in, Malaysian Bosses in general... I remember when I was working, my boss will give assignments and task until cannot finish during working hours, have to stay back extra 4 - 5 hours a day... Plus OT paid and no medical claim...

I've had some really bad experiences in that company... Its a fact... Malaysians aren't getting paid for the effort they put in... Malaysian bosses usually don't recognize the hard work employees put... I know this cuz I've seen really shit stuff in front of my eyes...

R u a some sort of manager? lol!
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yeah and then sape jugak yang dpt nama??

bosssssssss juuugaaaakkkk


arrrghhhh
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Oct 5 2010, 12:16 AM)
bukan mcm tu lar bang... i means, government's intention to send that fella to space. Instead of being proud it became a joke.
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people make joke of him he couldnt care less...as long as he already went to space thats fair to him...

the more we make fun of him the more i can see that we are the idiots not him...

just my opinions..

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post Oct 5 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(zack85 @ Oct 5 2010, 01:14 AM)
at least he went to space and can open his eyes more...what about us bro??? cry.gif  cry.gif
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he a space tourist paid by the goverment of Malaysia.. even US say so..
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Flaming_lion @ Oct 5 2010, 12:13 AM)
Ya la... Most companies are like that in Malaysia... Plus, there's no cap on extra working hours... Government should do something about it... Kids are growing up without even seeing their parents at home... That's just sad...
Dude... you misinterpreted my statement... I'm not condemning engineers la... I'm talking about employment in general...


I'm not an engineer, so I'm can't talk about engineers... But yeah, I'm talking as in, Malaysian Bosses in general... I remember when I was working, my boss will give assignments and task until cannot finish during working hours, have to stay back extra 4 - 5 hours a day... Plus OT paid and no medical claim...

I've had some really bad experiences in that company... Its a fact... Malaysians aren't getting paid for the effort they put in... Malaysian bosses usually don't recognize the hard work employees put... I know this cuz I've seen really shit stuff in front of my eyes...

R u a some sort of manager? lol!
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to make a point

most small companies are so, heck most doesnt mean right also, i know a number of people whom go work 9-6 balik,OT ade but rare, there are the folks who work in acc firms, damn they are getting shit

btu tto be fair, my mates from overseas, taiwan, jap, sg and korea

we got nothing on em seriously, want to compare hardwork they pwn, want to compare industry output then pwn,

people soo ahead and we are thinking eh, we need cut extra hours, then argue low pay, then argue why cant buy imported goods
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QUOTE(zack85 @ Oct 5 2010, 12:19 AM)
people make joke of him he couldnt care less...as long as he already went to space thats fair to him...

the more we make fun of him the more i can see that we are the idiots not him...

just my opinions..
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looks like u have the same mindset as that space tourist as well as the brilliant government who rob other's money and send him off. I wish you happy living on earth.
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Oct 5 2010, 12:20 AM)
he a space tourist paid by the goverment of Malaysia.. even US say so..
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i know...but like i said he doesn't care...he already went to space....that's enough for him..

we on the other hand still stuck on earth bro..

and why are we changing the topic to sheikh muzaffar??

yeah i heard he's a gay..lol... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Oct 5 2010, 12:22 AM)
looks like u have the same mindset as that space tourist as well as the brilliant government who rob other's money and send him off.  I wish you happy living on earth.
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bro..please dont missunderstand what i said...im also against the space campaign made by the G..

i was just saying that if lets say u are in a situation just like him..

would you rage or couldnt care less? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(zack85 @ Oct 5 2010, 12:17 AM)
yeah and then sape jugak yang dpt nama??

bosssssssss juuugaaaakkkk
arrrghhhh
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I've worked for both Malay, Chinese & Indian bosses... All oso the same... They get the credit even though sometimes the employee is the one safe their butts...

Its got nothing to do with race... Personally, you've got some serious issues...

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to make a point

most small companies are so, heck most doesnt mean right also, i know a number of people whom go work 9-6 balik,OT ade but rare, there are the folks who work in acc firms, damn they are getting shit

btu tto be fair, my mates from overseas, taiwan, jap, sg and korea

we got nothing on em seriously, want to compare hardwork they pwn, want to compare industry output then pwn,

people soo ahead and we are thinking eh, we need cut extra hours, then argue low pay, then argue why cant buy imported goods
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For example, if you look at Banking sector, their employees are pretty much protected... Like when I was working in a VERY prominent bank in Malaysia, max OT is 2 hours, basic RM 2000, OT is 1.5, 2.0 and 3.0... Great right? But only for execs... Clerks, well they getting less than that but they are still pretty much covered...

But in another company I was working in, they were abusing employees to the max... I used to work like 12 hours a day and 6 days week... Audit time worse, had to stay longer... The reason is, boss will give work cuz got limited time... Directors expect everything immediately... So because of that, the boss force employees to work long hours but we don't get paid OT or aren't even given Medical benefit... salary was around RM 1500...

One more person working in that company for nearly 15 years working under same condition but salary was RM 1200... Somemore, nearly 50 years of age, hubby retired and due to medical reasons, can't work... Plus got 3 kids who are still in primary school...

You can't say Malaysians are generally lazy... That's not fair... But if they are, when you see companies like these, can you really blame Malaysians not having the motivation to work harder? In fact most of them should be depressed... Work hard, earn peanuts, no time for kids... That kind of life, you should go insane...
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QUOTE(Flaming_lion @ Oct 5 2010, 12:37 AM)
I've worked for both Malay, Chinese & Indian bosses... All oso the same... They get the credit even though sometimes the employee is the one safe their butts...

Its got nothing to do with race... Personally, you've got some serious issues...

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again i must say please dont misunderstand what im trying to say...what im trying to say that all bosses are the same...regardless of what race they are...and yeah it got nothing to do with race..

I told you before that work does not have to do with race..its in yourself and depends on what kind of motivation u have to survive..

but certain people just love to blame other races whilst actually their race is the same too...

kita tercanguk2 wat keje...depa gak dpt nama..lol... tongue.gif tongue.gif

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