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> Malaysia engineers are very lazy unlike Germans, GERMANY official had spoken to Malaysia.

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post Oct 5 2010, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(nvidia2006 @ Oct 4 2010, 11:31 PM)
Problem is Malaysians don't work smart, don't think in structured ways, and bosses have no sense of work/life balance. So end up "Malays are lazy, Chinese just talk kok politiks all the time"

This all = how the f Malaysia can start becoming developed country of course people think twice before investing here.
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Actually, this is very true... Mainly because in schools and college or uni, students are not thought to think in such ways...

Malaysian bosses believe that employees = slaves... The moment you don't OT, they question your loyalty to the company... Even by law, employees cannot work more than 48 hours in a week (if I'm not mistaken)... And yet, you can see the enforcement is so bad... You'll find that employees are not willing to compromise since they've got no choice...

But most Malaysians don't see this is the root cause of all those racial problems..

QUOTE(nvidia2006 @ Oct 4 2010, 11:50 PM)
They all watch too much Hong Kong drama must also have drama drama at work all the bloody time.

Seriously though the issue is Malaysian work culture.

In Aust. Sure 5pm shutdown PC go to bar for a beer but usually because didnt waste time and finished their work. Just a small anecdote.

For the record I am Chindian
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Exactly... In Malaysia, bosses will claim, "why reduce productivity??? Force employee stay back and work 12 hours... Afterall, we paying big salary (when actually, the employee is only earning peanuts)"...
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Oct 5 2010, 12:05 AM)
OT nvr mind.. overtime but nvr pay  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Ya la... Most companies are like that in Malaysia... Plus, there's no cap on extra working hours... Government should do something about it... Kids are growing up without even seeing their parents at home... That's just sad...

QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 5 2010, 12:06 AM)
as if sgpura boss not like that. when recession hit, they pecat you on the spot merciless even you work 10+ yrs. malaysia got labor law protection.

who say malaysia employees = slave, some boss in malaysia company sked to offend workers coz they will cabut if got better offer. and yet some employee volunteer to work until 10pm-11pm to finish task coz responsiblity. you tak taui don simply insult malaysia engineers. sgpura engrs where got like that. go intel see yourself see what time they work until.
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Dude... you misinterpreted my statement... I'm not condemning engineers la... I'm talking about employment in general...

I'm not an engineer, so I'm can't talk about engineers... But yeah, I'm talking as in, Malaysian Bosses in general... I remember when I was working, my boss will give assignments and task until cannot finish during working hours, have to stay back extra 4 - 5 hours a day... Plus OT paid and no medical claim...

I've had some really bad experiences in that company... Its a fact... Malaysians aren't getting paid for the effort they put in... Malaysian bosses usually don't recognize the hard work employees put... I know this cuz I've seen really shit stuff in front of my eyes...

R u a some sort of manager? lol!
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(zack85 @ Oct 5 2010, 12:17 AM)
yeah and then sape jugak yang dpt nama??

bosssssssss juuugaaaakkkk
arrrghhhh
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I've worked for both Malay, Chinese & Indian bosses... All oso the same... They get the credit even though sometimes the employee is the one safe their butts...

Its got nothing to do with race... Personally, you've got some serious issues...

QUOTE(+3kk! @ Oct 5 2010, 12:22 AM)
to make a point

most small companies are so, heck most doesnt mean right also, i know a number of people whom go work 9-6 balik,OT ade but rare, there are the folks who work in acc firms, damn they are getting shit

btu tto be fair, my mates from overseas, taiwan, jap, sg and korea

we got nothing on em seriously, want to compare hardwork they pwn, want to compare industry output then pwn,

people soo ahead and we are thinking eh, we need cut extra hours, then argue low pay, then argue why cant buy imported goods
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For example, if you look at Banking sector, their employees are pretty much protected... Like when I was working in a VERY prominent bank in Malaysia, max OT is 2 hours, basic RM 2000, OT is 1.5, 2.0 and 3.0... Great right? But only for execs... Clerks, well they getting less than that but they are still pretty much covered...

But in another company I was working in, they were abusing employees to the max... I used to work like 12 hours a day and 6 days week... Audit time worse, had to stay longer... The reason is, boss will give work cuz got limited time... Directors expect everything immediately... So because of that, the boss force employees to work long hours but we don't get paid OT or aren't even given Medical benefit... salary was around RM 1500...

One more person working in that company for nearly 15 years working under same condition but salary was RM 1200... Somemore, nearly 50 years of age, hubby retired and due to medical reasons, can't work... Plus got 3 kids who are still in primary school...

You can't say Malaysians are generally lazy... That's not fair... But if they are, when you see companies like these, can you really blame Malaysians not having the motivation to work harder? In fact most of them should be depressed... Work hard, earn peanuts, no time for kids... That kind of life, you should go insane...

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