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Taipan052
post Oct 18 2010, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2010, 10:00 PM)
Nola,now no problem already.THe only problems were bad FC in city,bumpy ride,and poor NVH,poor pickup(not as bad as Forte though),at high speeds,it flies though.

But now kinda used to it after a year with the car.So yeah,I got used to it.
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your car still stock or already mod?
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post Oct 19 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2010, 05:58 PM)
Post reported =)
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Oct 18 2010, 06:25 PM)
Report discarded. To me, a reply to say that the car is sluggish at pickup and top end without numbers/facts means nothing. Those numbers are can be picked out from the brochure. Since most people are but keyboard warriors here behind the computer, your only ammo are things like brochures and facts from the internet.

You guys can fight all day long and nobody is going to emerge the winner.
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:00 AM

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kevin23...i owned a Forte 1.6SX, the 1 u r complaining about.....
it's true and i agree it's sluggish...but do u know, even is sluggish....the FC is very good??
and u know T&H&P1/P2 aims for Power to WEIGHT ratio?? that's y they are lighter....material wise, can't beat Forte of coz...personally, i got into an accident with my Forte....I tell u, if i buy VIOS/City.....radiator should change too....all u look is the outside material of Forte...but u nv see what's inside....do u know 5 STARS NCAP & BODY toughness safety rating?? is steel inside.....(not titanium/super high refined steel for armored tanks/vehicles)...where else inside of VIOS/City is wat? try get ur car into accident...dun nid side or rear impact....try front impact...then u knw wat ur city was made off.....currently...the Forte's front panel is protecting radiator and component inside....chassis steel bar at the engine which can be seen....is refined...very tough....tell u la...kevin23....do ur research....

if u wan say sluggish eh?? why 2.7L Hilux lose to 2.4 camry???? coz camry is lighter.....but try compare dragging....as in full load of ppl and items at the back.....see who win...sure Hilux...coz rather sacrifice horsepower for torque...same goes with Forte...which hv more torque than City...go compare


Added on October 19, 2010, 1:01 am
QUOTE(vault.dweller @ Oct 18 2010, 11:27 PM)
how can you get me all wrong?

japan > korean but forte > vios.

however, european > japan is my general point. i'm not that stupid. how stupid can you be?
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acually...that's not entirely true...had to look on budgeting....


Added on October 19, 2010, 1:05 amFOr once i can said...kevin23 is more than a troll than CM89....do u agree?? Frostlance...
at least he did say more logic/sense and did research....

kevin23 is the worse troll i've ever seen....bashing out no points..

This post has been edited by XionCity: Oct 19 2010, 01:05 AM
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:14 AM

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kevin23 was a hypocrite lah.. why buy the car if u dont like it? stupidest owner/driver ever for buying something he doesnt like.. or maybe he wasnt the one who purchase it? i dont know but i can attest that nhc interior quality is one of the worst i experienced in modern honda.. i myself own a 2009 accord and yeah it wasnt problem free either but i bought because i like it laugh.gif

so if he insist forte is cheap-junk-useless whatever car, let him be lar.. what for argue wit fanboi?
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Oct 19 2010, 02:14 AM)
kevin23 was a hypocrite lah.. why buy the car if u dont like it? stupidest owner/driver ever for buying something he doesnt like.. or maybe he wasnt the one who purchase it? i dont know but i can attest that nhc interior quality is one of the worst i experienced in modern honda.. i myself own a 2009 accord and yeah it wasnt problem free either but i bought because i like it laugh.gif

so if he insist forte is cheap-junk-useless whatever car, let him be lar.. what for argue wit fanboi?
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agree, but maybe he bought it without test drive 1st...that's another reason...and i also agree that NHC's look is quite appealing too..
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:22 AM

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me n CM89 are good frens now..hahaha
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(vault.dweller @ Oct 18 2010, 10:27 PM)
how can you get me all wrong?

japan > korean but forte > vios.

however, european > japan is my general point. i'm not that stupid. how stupid can you be?
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DUh! You dont have to tell me that oso I know lah.

Ppl talking here Jap vs Korean,you come and tell me European > Japan.That one my lil bro oso knoe la. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 19 2010, 01:35 AM)
DUh! You dont have to tell me that oso I know lah.

Ppl talking here Jap vs Korean,you come and tell me European > Japan.That one my lil bro oso knoe la. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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initial point is;

although japan > korean, still forte > vios.

now shove that into your ass.
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post Oct 19 2010, 02:07 AM

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and also forte>city
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post Oct 19 2010, 05:33 AM

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Seems like forte has come out a good deal with extended warranty, nice PJU car you have FL, I always thought white or black with bodykit forte 1.6 looks nice OTR, your car is silver color? I don't really recognize the pics in Penang to capture this scene, mind to tell me where? Anyway, forte or NHC both looks good
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post Oct 19 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Oct 19 2010, 01:22 AM)
me n CM89 are good frens now..hahaha
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haha...and its CM98 not CM89...copyright ok!
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post Oct 19 2010, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Oct 19 2010, 01:00 AM)
kevin23...i owned a Forte 1.6SX, the 1 u r complaining about.....
it's true and i agree it's sluggish...but do u know, even is sluggish....the FC is very good??
and u know T&H&P1/P2 aims for Power to WEIGHT ratio?? that's y they are lighter....material wise, can't beat Forte of coz...personally, i got into an accident with my Forte....I tell u, if i buy VIOS/City.....radiator should change too....all u look is the outside material of Forte...but u nv see what's inside....do u know 5 STARS NCAP & BODY toughness safety rating?? is steel inside.....(not titanium/super high refined steel for armored tanks/vehicles)...where else inside of VIOS/City is wat? try get ur car into accident...dun nid side or rear impact....try front impact...then u knw wat ur city was made off.....currently...the Forte's front panel is protecting radiator and component inside....chassis steel bar at the engine which can be seen....is refined...very tough....tell u la...kevin23....do ur research....
Xion, yes i agree that the Forte is more 'solid' than a Vios.

But u need to remember 3 things also. Firstly, as i said in an earlier post, your accident was not a major accident. It was a minor frontal side impact with a motorbike which was travelling at not more than maybe 50kmph when it hit you. If you had been in a direct frontal accident with a car at that speed the results would have been far different.

Secondly, you cannot judge the solidness of a car by just looking at bumper and radiator damage. Strength of a car is not judged by the strength of the steel. The strength is judged by the ability of the car to absorb the impact and dissipate the energy before it reaches the passenger cabin. So if u see a car thats badly smashed up in the front it doesnt matter. What matters is that the passenger cabin is still intact.

Thirdly, the NCAP ratings have been modified in 2010. The Forte was rated based on the older ratings which most of the new cars got 5 stars anyway. For instance, the Ford Fiesta got a 5 star NCAP rating in 2009 but only got a 4 star rating in 2010 with a special Government concern relating to its side impact zone. Even the Camry didnt do well in the latest NCAP ratings.

Cheers!

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post Oct 19 2010, 11:40 AM

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post Oct 19 2010, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 19 2010, 11:27 AM)
Xion, yes i agree that the Forte is more 'solid' than a Vios.

But u need to remember 3 things also. Firstly, as i said in an earlier post, your accident was not a major accident. It was a minor frontal side impact with a motorbike which was travelling at not more than maybe 50kmph when it hit you. If you had been in a direct frontal accident with a car at that speed the results would have been far different.

Secondly, you cannot judge the solidness of a car by just looking at bumper and radiator damage. Strength of a car is not judged by the strength of the steel. The strength is judged by the ability of the car to absorb the impact and dissipate the energy before it reaches the passenger cabin. So if u see a car thats badly smashed up in the front it doesnt matter. What matters is that the passenger cabin is still intact.

Thirdly, the NCAP ratings have been modified in 2010. The Forte was rated based on the older ratings which most of the new cars got 5 stars anyway. For instance, the Ford Fiesta got a 5 star NCAP rating in 2009 but only got a 4 star rating in 2010 with a special Government concern relating to its side impact zone. Even the Camry didnt do well in the latest NCAP ratings.

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where is the source? i tot 2.0 forte got 5 star because of the 6 airbags on side impact?
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post Oct 19 2010, 12:46 PM

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mine is 1.6???
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Oct 19 2010, 12:44 PM)
where is the source? i tot 2.0 forte got 5 star because of the 6 airbags on side impact?
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Sorry my mistake. It was the American NHTSA (National Highway & Transportation Safety Authority) that has got the new & more stringent safety ratings not the Euro NCAP.

Here's the latest ratings for the Ford Fiesta:

http://www.safercar.gov/staticfiles/ncap-2...Ford_Fiesta.htm

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post Oct 19 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Oct 19 2010, 12:46 PM)
mine is 1.6???
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Yours might not get the 5 star rating since it doesnt have some of the safety features. The 5 star ratings for Euro NCAP are for the 2.0L model.
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there is only one thing inspira and T&H car cannot beat forte, that is safety for 2.0 liter car. Which car in this price range has 6 airbags?

If you care for your safety, this car should be in your list.

Jap car is lighter , to save fuel, because japan it self do not have any petroleum(a problem highlighted during WW2) . European and US do not have this concern.
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:54 PM

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lol. mini forte.

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