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post Oct 4 2010, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 4 2010, 12:41 AM)
Long term use and u buy Forte?? Thats a mistake. No Korean can was built to last.
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bravo, another bullshit from cybermaster without propers facts. I salute u.
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post Oct 4 2010, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 4 2010, 01:11 AM)
Its based on EXPERIENCE which u dont have.
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The hell i dont idiot...
Ive owned an hyundai elantra for 8 damn years before this.. family owned a few hondas before.. the korean elantra had no problems..
damn troll go die la..
always talk without proper facts..why dont u answer some of fortezen questions..give ur fact.. u say u debate like a man, but no proper facts, and say based on experience.. go die man
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post Oct 18 2010, 01:01 AM

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Im gonna post these pictures in every thread that has Forte in the title..
Kia Forte Leaves you Speechless

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Added on October 18, 2010, 1:04 am
QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 17 2010, 12:54 PM)
Bro 190 in vios is achievable lahhhh. I driving nhc, but i drove my frens dugong vios and it whn i was driving it, it felt tht i reached 190 quicker compared to my nhc. And yes, it feels very stable. Even my nhc not so stable at 190.

Forte vs vios? Nah i will still stick to the japs even though i am paying more. But at least we know its worth it. I knock the fortez door, the sound is the same as i knock a milo can. No kidding, at least japs are still more solid even though a lot of ppl might not see it.

You know y? Cuz they judge hw good a car is by its looks, and its specs. But they never take into account driving experience.
So to mk a car good, give it a good design and load it up with unnessary features like push start, dual aircon. Then it will definately sell... Lol

Stop saying the forte is a good car juz bcuz it looks good, and just bcuz it has all those xtras. My goodness, nowadays msians, nice design = good car. =.="
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Bro tin milo?? Forte is a multiple award winning C-Segment Car that scored 5 Star on NCAP test, wins numerous safety awards. Dugong and City didnt. Very SMART la u.
It has Stability Control, TCS, ESC with ABS with ABD and BA. Which Sub 100k car comes with those.

Dugong and city has traction control?? LOL.. see the engine compartment of honda city already can see tin milo body surrounding the engine

City and Vios is a B-Segment TOY CAR. Nothing compared to a fully Spec, Full safety, Multi award winning C-Segment


lol city fanboy.. this Kevin23 is a really really dumb guy.. sure Honda City club very embarass to have members like u who knows crap about cars. No wonder u only work in sales for a medical company even with your biotech degree.

if its not a good car how can it won so many awards?

Receptions and awards
Automoblog.net (92%) link
About.com (85%) link
MotorTrend.com (85%) link
LeftLaneNews.com (84%) link
Auto123.com (83%) link
Autoblog.com (82%) link
Edmunds.com (80%) link
U.S. National Automobile Dealers Association (NADAguides.com) Awards 2010 Kia Forte and Forte Koup 'Car of the Year' link
Kia Forte Named to About.com 'Best New Cars of 2010' List link
The Forte compact sedan were listed among the top 10 “Consumers’ Favorite Cars for College Students” list by Edmunds.com link
The Forte was a finalist for Motortrend's 2010 car of the year, which was claimed by the Ford Fusion. link
The Kia Forte Awarded Edmunds.com Consumers' Top Rated® Vehicle Award link
The 2010 Kia Forte earned Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) 'Top Safety Pick' Award link

Its car of the year for god sake

http://www.kia.com/forte/awards/
http://www.automoblog.net/2009/12/03/kia-f...the-year-award/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Forte

Now Comes with 5 Years Unlimited Mileage Warranty!!!!

QUOTE(putramon @ Oct 18 2010, 12:39 AM)
but kia....2nd hand value is saddening...and maintenance is high..coz parts are very expensive...
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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Oct 18 2010, 12:05 AM)
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dugong don't have, coz shy to show maintenance cost on website..
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who the hell told u maintenence and parts for kia is high.. compared to honda is wayyyyyy cheaper..
I pity HONDA owners, coz service put Fully Synth Also must come back service every 5k..
Failure to do that can result in warranty void.. ouchh..talk about EXPENSIVE maintenence..

I know coz i own the the accord also.

Ppl complaints about the Honda 5k Maintenence policy :
http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=88535&st=0
http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/forums/...threadid=930750


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1. So it it clearly printed on the manual that the car is required to send back for service EVERY 5K km! failing to comply to this requirement will at the mercy of HM to extend the warranty to YOU. For Dealer wise, they are middle man. It is also at their mercy if they do not hold on to their words to you.

2. For oil spec, there should printed "those arrow graph" referring to Operating Temperature Terrains. Look carefully on it.

3. Normally there are 3 type oil available at the SC. One must pay attention if the rating is API SL or API SM. API SM is of higher grade then API SL hence the API SL is cheaper ! For Example, Mineral or Semi, 10W/40. There can be API SL OR API SM !!!

a. Mineral : 15W/40
b. Semi : 10W/40
c. Full Sync : 5W/40


As the manual printed you need to service/change the oil EVERY 5K. Mineral will do under normal driving conditions. BUT you will "feel" less smoothy as compared to Semi or Fully Sync oil.

So Mineral/SEMI/Fully for every 5K is depends what's your budget !!!

cheers


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i'm driving Civic 8th gen. Since a year ago the Peringgit sc (in KL) that I normally went had restricted the 10k service with full syn oil.

However the Johore sc allowed this until 2 weeks ago which I was informed that Honda had officially prohibited the sc from doing the 10k service with full syn oil. So the service advisor said its better to use back the 'new' semi syn oil since we had to service every 5k now.

On the other hand, toyota officially informed all owners to service only every 10k, despite their engine oil is semi syn one. From this perspective, it really seems that honda owners are paying double the service cost than toyotas'


So Honda owners kaw kaw kene Ripped off by Honda Malaysia. Congratz to you Kevin23

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post Oct 18 2010, 01:16 AM

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i prefer the 5 speed auto..CVT sux.. owned the lancer before this..forte 2.0 is much better in terms of FC and performance.. just a little bit behind the FD2 ivtec engine..but not much
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post Oct 18 2010, 01:39 AM

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lol..CVT for unker ok la.a..but lacks Vroomm vrommm hahaha..
it does helps reduce FC tho.. no Power loss in gear change.. actually the more Gears u have.. the more power loss u will suffer..
not supposedly a 5 speed auto = better FC compared to a 4 speed GB


Added on October 18, 2010, 1:42 am
QUOTE(XionCity @ Oct 18 2010, 01:34 AM)
i dunno y u all say CVT gb sucks...my dad owns a nissan grand livina with CVT gb.....and working fine...no problem....mayb only with the sport mode or paddle shift kut...but full auto no problm gua....

btw...nice post FL against kevin....
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kevin is trying to act smart lol..
dare he say the latest gen City > Forte's Engine

lol..everyone knows how underpowered the latest gen City are.. biggrin.gif
and he dared say the forte is tin milo??? This coming out of City owner..hahahaha


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post Oct 18 2010, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 18 2010, 02:20 AM)
tht kevin23 have been butthurting ever since forte was released,jz ignore him.even in nhc club he was once nt rly favoured as well.ironically,he bash bout his own car in the club

anyway im planning to get the facelifted forte if naza brings it in next year
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Next year will be a good year..lots of C-Segment coming biggrin.gif

Facelifted forte with superEco GDI engine n 6 speed tranny..
2011 Avante with super duper tech (hopefully malaysian version spec is on par with other countries)


Added on October 18, 2010, 2:24 am
QUOTE(chastise @ Oct 18 2010, 02:18 AM)
FrostLance, just curious. The new ones come with sunroof? Cos I don't remember seeing them previously.
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Mine with the sunroof is Limited Edition Forte Singaporean Spec CBU at 96k..
only 32 units in malaysia biggrin.gif

bored of waiting for local 2.0..so grabbed the singapore one with Sunroof smile.gif

2.0 forte's waiting period so long ler...
Demand is very high worldwide.. only less then 200 in malaysia right now.

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post Oct 18 2010, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 18 2010, 02:24 AM)
looking forward to this 2 models definitely

however im quite worried bout the avante....hyundai have been not really competitive in their pricing.if the new sonata is indication of how their pricing strategy gonna be....i expect the avante to be around 90-100k+
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The price range of Elantra's always been around 80-100k..
My mom owned the last gen Elantra (x19) ..no problems for 10 whole years...
so have a lot of exp on korean cars.. sold it off at a very good price too..
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post Oct 18 2010, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(chastise @ Oct 18 2010, 02:39 AM)
Awesome! Where did you get yours? A friend wanted to get 2.0, SA told her have to wait for 6 months! That's really crazy. I love your LE man.  biggrin.gif
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Got mine at Sungai Petani, Adwin Low of Lai Khim Auto.. damn nice guy..
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post Oct 18 2010, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2010, 04:47 PM)
Haha, another joker. I will see you in hospital after taking corner at 200.


Added on October 18, 2010, 4:55 pmNhc pickup is quite sluggish. But once high speed it flies.

Forte pickup is damn sluggish. When high speed also the same sluggishness.

Thts the diff between jap n korean tech.

Korean tech is still lightyears behind japs. Sorry for bursting ur bubble here. Just stating facts, if you dont accept then too bad =)
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2010, 04:40 PM)
Haha frostlance you must b very butthurt to Pm me to reply here . Hahaha, Yes , forte really leaves you speechless with a crappy engine and reliability.

Oyeah i am a jap fanboy. You got a prob with tht?

No need so semangat post pics, links and all bout forte lah.

I dont care what car you buy, you wan forte, go buy la. Not my money also.

What i stated above is my opinion and every person has a right to an opinion. You dont like it, means ur the real fanboy.

I am nt obligated to please you here, so crap all you want, i still say no to Kia!
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lol u sure are dumb man. a shame City Club has someone like u in their ranks. Memalukan. biggrin.gif
i Have debunk every statement u made with facts and prooft.
So who is crapping here.

Engine is crap? Go do a little research on who makes the GEMA and THETHA engine biggrin.gif See how many awards it has.

And oh BTW, the latest Gen City is probably one of the worst ever City of all time. From damn sluggish engine to crappy leg room. (Compared reviews to all previous gens, the new city has he most negative remarks)

A Pm from Kevin
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Pls do reply at you know whr. If not important, dun pm me just to reply at the thread just bcuz u wasted 30 mins of your life "researching" bout forte to post there.

Thank you


LoL. Proves that u r a dumb person.
Ppl do RESEARCH before making a purchase. Any Purchase not just cars.
Ive done mine a looong time ago before making my purchase, asking everyone around, and made my final decision.
U are going to spend a huge sum of bucks on something surely u do research first.
Smart ppl do that. biggrin.gif They also give statements with facts and proof.

I pity u.

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post Oct 18 2010, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Oct 18 2010, 08:39 PM)
^ like wat he said.

kevin23 is being honest.. not much ppl bash their own cars. He gives valuable info about city without bias. u guys should give him some credit lar. talking about naza, it is well known naza sucks at aftersales service. Spare parts have to wait long, technical team not enuf technical knowledge to solve car problems. this maybe the main problem that causes ppl to steer away from buying forte. And also the brand itself, Kia.

to be honest.. city, civic, vios, altis (CCVA) by quantity have flooded our malaysian streets. The wow factor no longer there already. Vios by far get the worst hit because of ugly design and conventional color offered by toyota. Vios is like proton saga few years back haha. (no offense to Vios drivers). Proton Inspira by far the best for bucks for 1.8l at RM79k and above for 2l. Get a white inspira, throw away proton bumpers and stickers, put back mitsubishi bumper (even better get evo bumper) upgrade HID, exhaust system, get rim upgrades. You will shine more than the rest of CCVA. Civic is got some wow but since uncles and aunties also drive the same car.. tiada umph la. -.- vios, city, altis is nothing much.
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without bias? Are u kidding? Have u seen the post that he made.. all nonsense and crap.
Valueble info? What info? What facts n proof does he has to back him up? Doesnt even provide numbers to begin with. All i see is crap and BS from the guy.

BTW this is a Vios versus Forte thread. Not inspira or other cars. The inspira is not even out yet. We have no clue what the interior would look like.
Heard that their paddle shifters also are plastic instead of magnesium alloy.


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post Oct 18 2010, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2010, 08:44 PM)
Lol, I think u really butthurt.Lol

Yea i m sure they are ashamed.Anything else?

The latest City might be the worst city made,but its still much better than Forte.Now use that mighty brain of urs and go figure!

Haha,and u dont hv to copy my PM here,cuz i can post it directly here for u to read.Makes ur "HECTIC" life much easier.

And i dont care when u made ur decision,what car u gonna buy.I dont care one lil bit.So dont have to repeat urself here so many times.

And if ur so smart,you wouldnt be languishing in this forum here replying to my personal opinions.Cuz you will be reading lotsa books to improve that knowledge of urs,cause you are the smartest. yawn.gif

Ohyea,you know what? I also dont care how many awards that engine has got,cuz if it has 10 awards and still drives like crap,well then it is crap.

So yea,awards are not important,but basically on the road results that matter.Got it?

And a profesionally taken pic of Forte ,doesnt make it any faster or more technologically advanced.Hope you get this attached to ur genius brain of yours.
Thank You for reading.
Kia is Not european  doh.gif  doh.gif

Just because its designed by a European,doesnt make it European.Kia fanboys mentality.  doh.gif
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Give any links on the net, any reviews in the net that says the Forte is BAD for its price and the City is GOOD!
Can you plz biggrin.gif Show me any review that shows forte drives like crap. Can you plz?

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And a profesionally taken pic of Forte ,doesnt make it any faster or more technologically advanced.Hope you get this attached to ur genius brain of yours.
Thank You for reading.
Kia is Not european  doh.gif  doh.gif


The forte is much much more technological advanced then your city biggrin.gif

Drives like crap? Drives better then ur city yes, Much much better. According to personal experience and all the tons of reviews that i posted to back me up.
Where are ur facts? No wonder a biotech graduates only doing sales at a medical company. tsk tsk tsk.
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post Oct 18 2010, 08:56 PM

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Me a Kia fanboy? tsk tsk tk. I have the Latest Accord in my garage as well.
and a Myvi to go pasar biggrin.gif


Added on October 18, 2010, 9:00 pmLOL i even havent gotten to the part about the latest Gen's city FC... lalalala
really failed as a "City" car.



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post Oct 18 2010, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2010, 10:00 PM)
Nola,now no problem already.THe only problems were bad FC in city,bumpy ride,and poor NVH,poor pickup(not as bad as Forte though),at high speeds,it flies though.

But now kinda used to it after a year with the car.So yeah,I got used to it.
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poor pickup like the forte.. come take a ride my forte 2.0..only 3k diff from ur city..come come and see.
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post Oct 18 2010, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2010, 10:10 PM)
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I am talking bout the 1.6 Forte lah.U wan compare Forte 2.0 for what?!

If you drive ur 2.0 and still lose to 1.5 city,i duno wat to say....tsk tsk tsk

Good for you that you bought ur 2.0 Forte.Good for you that ur enjoying ur car.

But remember,I am enjoying mine too.
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coz same price range smile.gif who ask u to compare a toy B-segment car to a C-Segment car lol..

1.6 Forte still got more juice then ur city biggrin.gif
Enjoy ur overpriced city. Stop calling other cars crappy.
I only say to city to counter ur claims biggrin.gif


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post Oct 19 2010, 01:22 AM

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me n CM89 are good frens now..hahaha
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:51 PM

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http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/201...ts-kia-rio-2012
Kia's Answer to Vios.. their B-segment car

The new Kia Rio

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