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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY

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post Sep 27 2010, 05:14 PM

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To some of you, you may be happy of the results of the Mancs yesterday, but I'm finding it hard to concentrate on the results of theirs. To me, it doesn't matter if the Mancs win this season anymore, it's about us fighting our position back, which is one of the most respectable teams in Europe. Rafa made us one of the most fearful teams in Europe, I don't understand how one season can make some fans change their mind, this is a guy who has brought us the Champions League with the likes of Smicer, Biscan, etc. Where are these players playing now?

I lost my confidence towards RB as well, but definitely not entirely and definitely no respects gone. I would have given him another season. GH brought us ups and downs, but was given 1 more season after 1 terrible season. He brought us the UEFA Cup, the FA Cup, 2 Worthington Cups, Super Cup, a couple of Charity Shields but how is 1 Champions League trophy and 1 FA Cup incomparable to those GH had won? Plus we were consistently scary when playing against the Mancs, Rent Bhoys as well as the Gooners.

I'm afraid those days are gone, until we find our place back. We are lost, perhaps in mid table. To the Mancs, I hate to say this, but I think, number 19 is closer to you than us now.
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post Sep 27 2010, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Sep 27 2010, 06:14 PM)
To some of you, you may be happy of the results of the Mancs yesterday, but I'm finding it hard to concentrate on the results of theirs. To me, it doesn't matter if the Mancs win this season anymore, it's about us fighting our position back, which is one of the most respectable teams in Europe. Rafa made us one of the most fearful teams in Europe, I don't understand how one season can make some fans change their mind, this is a guy who has brought us the Champions League with the likes of Smicer, Biscan, etc. Where are these players playing now?

I lost my confidence towards RB as well, but definitely not entirely and definitely no respects gone. I would have given him another season. GH brought us ups and downs, but was given 1 more season after 1 terrible season. He brought us the UEFA Cup, the FA Cup, 2 Worthington Cups, Super Cup, a couple of Charity Shields but how is 1 Champions League trophy and 1 FA Cup incomparable to those GH had won? Plus we were consistently scary when playing against the Mancs, Rent Bhoys as well as the Gooners.

I'm afraid those days are gone, until we find our place back. We are lost, perhaps in mid table. To the Mancs, I hate to say this, but I think, number 19 is closer to you than us now.
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The season just begin... for me Liverpool should try to get as many points as you can even one draw point...if by january there is no hope for top four then RH should start to sell unwanted players...and promote youngsters..buy saveral promising young players...from the fund raise from the selling of the unwanted players...fight for mid table at the same time rebuild new Lvpool...

notworthy.gif Respect Liverpool..My Dad's Favourite Club...

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post Sep 27 2010, 05:41 PM

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Roy Hodgson is considering fielding senior stars such as Fernando Torres against Utrecht on Thursday night.

The manager is delighted with how his Spanish striker has progressed over recent games - and believes El Nino is forming a potent understanding with Raul Meireles and Dirk Kuyt.

Now he is pondering playing the trio in our second Europa League encounter later this week.

"It's on my mind to play Torres, Raul Meireles and Dirk Kuyt on Thursday," he said. "I think they're knitting together well.

"I thought Torres was much, much different (against Sunderland) to the one in the first couple of games.

OUR NEXT MATCH

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post Sep 27 2010, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 27 2010, 05:26 PM)

The season just begin... for me Liverpool should try to get as many points as you can even one draw point...if by january there is no hope for top four then RH should start to sell unwanted players...and promote youngsters..buy saveral promising young players...from the fund raise from the selling of the unwanted players...fight for mid table at the same time rebuild new Lvpool...

notworthy.gif Respect Liverpool..My Dad's Favourite Club...
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No money, no talk.
Modern days football, no money, no good new players coming, no new stadium to generate more revenue.

You can raise as many as superstar or good young players, but if the club is not financial strong, it becomes a breed club to born the superstar or good players for other bigger club only, as your 'pond' is too small for a big fish, aka you cannot hold on your bright youngster that are courting by others big club.

Forever stuck at middle class.

So strong in term of financial is very crucial for the club to success.
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post Sep 27 2010, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 27 2010, 05:41 PM)
Roy Hodgson is considering fielding senior stars such as Fernando Torres against Utrecht on Thursday night.

The manager is delighted with how his Spanish striker has progressed over recent games - and believes El Nino is forming a potent understanding with Raul Meireles and Dirk Kuyt.

Now he is pondering playing the trio in our second Europa League encounter later this week.

"It's on my mind to play Torres, Raul Meireles and Dirk Kuyt on Thursday," he said. "I think they're knitting together well.

"I thought Torres was much, much different (against Sunderland) to the one in the first couple of games.

OUR NEXT MATCH
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Good news to say the least rclxms.gif

Though the results aren't that good for the past week, I'm sure glad that RH prefers to stick to the more offensive formation this time...and please bring back the Europa League cup back to Anfield! biggrin.gif

And RH did also say "It was only Meireles' second start and there was another start for Joe Cole. There are moments giving me satisfaction but I know it's a big job and I can't just wave a magic wand and Liverpool will suddenly dominate English football again. But there were a lot of pleasing factors."

He obviously needs more time. His new players, Meireles and Cole just had their 2nd match last saturday and they haven't really "clicked" their passes with their new teammates yet. As a matter of fact, even Mourinho isn't having the best of times in Madrid as he did brought in a few new players as well.

We need to judge RH at the end of the season, not now. We're not Madrid who sacks their managers every one (sometimes half) season or so.

This post has been edited by kazuki85: Sep 27 2010, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 27 2010, 06:46 PM)
No money, no talk.
Modern days football, no money, no good new players coming, no new stadium to generate more revenue.

You can raise as many as superstar or good young players, but if the club is not financial strong, it becomes a breed club to born the superstar or good players for other bigger club only, as your 'pond' is too small for a big fish, aka you cannot hold on your bright youngster that are courting by others big club.

Forever stuck at middle class.

So strong in term of financial is very crucial for the club to success.
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Good points..okey acceptable..but still players need to respect the contract and play all out..the ownership is too far out of reach to talk about..
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 27 2010, 05:50 PM)
Good news to say the least  rclxms.gif

Though the results aren't that good for the past week, I'm sure glad that RH prefers to stick to the more offensive formation this time...and please bring back the Europa League cup back to Anfield! biggrin.gif

And RH did also say "It was only Meireles' second start and there was another start for Joe Cole. There are moments giving me satisfaction but I know it's a big job and I can't just wave a magic wand and Liverpool will suddenly dominate English football again. But there were a lot of pleasing factors."

He obviously needs more time. His new players, Meireles and Cole just had their 2nd match last saturday and they haven't really "clicked" their passes with their new teammates yet. As a matter of fact, even Mourinho isn't having the best of times in Madrid as he did brought in a few new players as well.

We need to judge RH at the end of the season, not now. We're not Madrid who sacks their managers every one (sometimes half) season or so.
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++, well said, take this for those tat dun hav faith in RH.....
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post Sep 27 2010, 07:19 PM

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Roy has nothing positive to say...

Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson believes his players are struggling to come to terms with the "enormous expectation" of the club's supporters.

http://teamtalk.com/news/2483/6403544/Roy-...at-expectations
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QUOTE(epolmuse @ Sep 27 2010, 12:52 PM)
should try and play 4-4-2, when they put on ngog we played much much better and controlled the game...

somehow torres seems lazy and lack the desire to play
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 27 2010, 02:05 PM)
From the performance, and player form, Ngog deserve to start.

It is always bad man-management if somene performs very well, yet cannot get a start. If a player performs well, yet keep on being denied a starting place, it will only affect the player's confidence, future and development to be a much better player.

Sometimes, Torres looks too frustate which affecting his performance as well. A cool mind is needed to perform at the top level.
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ok..although not score torres did OK for the assist...i think its too early to call for RH head...just give him at least 10 match for EPL...
btw....i also agrre NGog should or must be in 11 eleven for his form....play 442 although we don't have a natral winger coz Ngog is good becoz he can hold/shield the ball untill support came...
YNWA...hope wil come DIC buy our beloved club..just pray thumbup.gif
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I thought some of u guys criticised Ngog like hell last time on his poor holding ball??? brows.gif


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post Sep 27 2010, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 27 2010, 05:57 PM)
Good points..okey acceptable..but still players need to respect the contract and play all out..the ownership is too far out of reach to talk about..
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contracts are overrated these days. anyone can use these papers like toilet rolls, just ask masch. clubs are now renewing contracts that are still running for 2-3 years because they want to sugarcoat the players to stay by offering better money, gone are the days where contracts are binding honour between the player and club.

QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 27 2010, 06:03 PM)
++, well said, take this for those tat dun hav faith in RH.....
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i honestly want to do that, but isn't clear from day one that RH was hired as a muppet for the circus show in the top management of the club?

i don't want to sound redundant, but RH has never achieved anything in his managerial career. i too hoped that he may turn the club's fortune around. however, i find him to be quite demotivating when players speaks up about achieving something this season, he'll come out and knock down their confidence. it's bad enough that we're performing poorly, and then you come and say as though it's okay to have low expectations.
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I wonder when Liverpool will start playing like a team and pass well and gain form, especially Torres, who has a bad form as of now...
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enormous exepectations?

a win against freakin sunderland at anfield... asking too much roy?
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Sep 27 2010, 08:22 PM)
i don't want to sound redundant, but RH has never achieved anything in his managerial career. i too hoped that he may turn the club's fortune around. however, i find him to be quite demotivating when players speaks up about achieving something this season, he'll come out and knock down their confidence. it's bad enough that we're performing poorly, and then you come and say as though it's okay to have low expectations.
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+++,Roy lost any respect or hope i had for him there,this is liverpool u dumb...

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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 27 2010, 05:50 PM)

We need to judge RH at the end of the season, not now. We're not Madrid who sacks their managers every one (sometimes half) season or so.

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seriously... i dun think the bench is strong enough to handle so many games... however i dun hope they been thrashed out from europa league so quickly... confusing~~~
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 27 2010, 07:19 PM)
Roy has nothing positive to say...

Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson believes his players are struggling to come to terms with the "enormous expectation" of the club's supporters.

http://teamtalk.com/news/2483/6403544/Roy-...at-expectations
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Enormous expectation??

Did supporters expect Liv to win PL - No
Did supporter expect Liv to win Europa league - No
Did supporter expect Liv to win every match - No
Did supporter expect Liv to win against MU - No, a lot of people will satisfy with a draw as well.

Even now, some supporters already drop down expectation to finish 6/7th place in PL instead 4th, which is also an enormous expectation? sweat.gif

What shoud supporter expect then?
16th place?

Supporters just expect Liv can play some football that better than currently what had been display by 6 previous matches.


Added on September 28, 2010, 11:09 amPlayers and managers are getting ten of thousand GBP per week, which is funded by loyal supporters that fork out their hard earned money to buy tickets, merchandise, subscribe costly pay TV to support their team, and in turn, tell supporters don't expect too much from the players and managers?

I don't know what to say.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 28 2010, 10:48 AM)
Enormous expectation??

Did supporters expect Liv to win PL - No
Did supporter expect Liv to win Europa league - No
Did supporter expect Liv to win every match - No
Did supporter expect Liv to win against MU - No, a lot of people will satisfy with a draw as well.

Even now, some supporters already drop down expectation to finish 6/7th place in PL instead 4th, which is also an enormous expectation?  sweat.gif

What shoud supporter expect then?
16th place? 

Supporters just expect Liv can play some football that better than currently what had been display by 6 previous matches.


Added on September 28, 2010, 11:09 amPlayers and managers are getting ten of thousand GBP per week, which is funded by loyal supporters that fork out their hard earned money to buy tickets, merchandise, subscribe costly pay TV to support their team, and in turn, tell supporters don't expect too much from the players and managers?

I don't know what to say.
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RH expect Liverpool fan satisfy with Fulham result rclxub.gif

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