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post May 17 2006, 04:39 PM

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Aisehman, don't pirate pirate here. The Chaos Godz will roast you like Kenny Roger's ayam.
And FYI, there's no way to play online using the tainted disc. Muahahahaha!

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post May 22 2006, 10:20 AM

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@king kong
Will try to make it, no promises yet. Haha.

@hunt, redeye, johnnycp
thanks for the frag last saturday, i'm an fps noob, haven't touched one since...err...Medal of Honour??? yeah, it has been THAT long...

My internet connection is still pending, hopefully should have one in time for Dark Crusade...keeping da fingers crossed...
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post Jun 7 2006, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Jun 6 2006, 02:44 PM)
Well, i wonder if its like the cannibalize in warcraft for the undead. Gain extra life???....hope it isnt too much....

This really sucks....its now gonna be even worse for the Orks...well still hoping they will improve the Orks...
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Regain health-for cannibalize-not gain life. Heh.


QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 7 2006, 03:57 AM)
Well... I think u have to accept Ork is no more what it used to be.. Last time it use to be Swarming race where they use numbers to win.

Its kinda like a pre swarming race where u need both numbers and effective counters to win.

Cmon Hunt if 1 of the best player "santiagoforever" can be uber with orks so can you.
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It's laughable. The swarming race now are the IMPS.
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post Jun 9 2006, 01:52 PM

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Hehe, between the option of idling waiting to start a game and DoTA, guess which would you take? The lesser boring devil of course!
Redeye, when are you liberated once more? I wanna let my Chaos boys get whooped by your Marines.
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post Jun 9 2006, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(HaSY @ Jun 9 2006, 01:50 PM)
mind to ask sumthing...how to get a close view of the units so that i can see their combat animation?
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IF your mouse has a wheel, scroll it forward, your camera will zoom in.
To change angle of view, hold down ALT key and move your mouse.
To go back to default view, press BACKSPACE.

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post Jun 13 2006, 02:18 PM

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Yeah, I'm noob at Shooting and Piloting. That's why my chaos minions fight for me.

Hey, our Order vs Disorder matchup is long overdue!
Eldar/ImpGuard/SMarines vs Ork/Chaos.

My 2 cents on HOPE: DISORDER WINS!

EDIT: Response to Red's post - DoW or DOTA, as long as the battles are massive, count me in! HAHAHA!

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post Jun 14 2006, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(HaSY @ Jun 14 2006, 01:55 AM)
hi,i really want to know about chao's strengths and weaknesses so i can better fight againt other races....
is imperial general a great hero to fight against other heroes?he seems weak though
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Hi, i read my Chaos stuffs from here: http://forums.relicnews.com/forumdisplay.php?f=139
They lay down every dirty trick there is to play.

IG General, best to have his sidekicks with him before a fight. Yeah the priest is a killa in close combat.

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 14 2006, 02:46 AM)
STR: One of the Strongest T1 and good offensive all the way.
Weakness: Poor Defences , Units get Obselete very fast e.g Cultist after 2-3 min they are close to useless.
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Yup, Chaos is pretty strong in T1, with PlasmaPistols and PowerSword upgrades from the armory.
Cultists die pretty quick to anything, so maybe you have the option of attaching the Chaos Lord to them in the beginning for some fights. But try to preserve 1 squad to uncap-n-cap points when other more fighty units are out.
Also, make AspiringChampions out of every Cultist, CSM and Raptor squads. The damage increase is worth the investment.
Beserkers + Horrors (Chaos' anti-building anti-vehicle creatures) are imba! Haha!
The Sorcerer has insane damage vs buildings. So if you wanna take down buildings quick, attach him to some imba Beserkers and go rampage.

For vehicles: I'll get predators over Defilers if resource permits. Tanks are better overall killers.

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post Jun 16 2006, 12:10 PM

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Hi, sorry for the hijack, rewind to T1. How do Space Marines/Eldar cope with Cultist (capping/uncapping) + Raptor (harass) opening from Chaos?
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post Jun 19 2006, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Jun 16 2006, 08:24 PM)
Well, if we can ever get them to come....it would be a blast
Come on....you gotta learn sometime.......u did learn how to play DOTA didnt ya?.......its not like you suddenly gained the know-how from a dream......Besides BF2 rocks in full multiplayer. 
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 17 2006, 03:41 PM)
Well.. Why dont we learn to play BF2 in return you learn to pick up DOTA.
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laugh.gif Well, DoTA is an offshoot of warcraft. I'm a RTS fan. So it ain't that difficult controlling 1 guy and getting the hang to earn $, use spells, and participate in ganks. laugh.gif

Whereas 1st person games;
1. Vertigo
2. Controlling "myself", my vehicle, my plane... rclxub.gif
3. Graphic card requirements...
4. tonnes of training, which i don't have...yea not even 1 FPS in my comp, how sad is that?

DoW: simply rocks, well, you guys just toot when it is NBTD Fri or Sat. We go serve Emperor, ChaosGods, Gork/Mork and the Craftworlds.

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post Jun 29 2006, 05:12 PM

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DoTA pro eh? How about a clan challenge after your exams etc, Redeye?
BTW, which Segmentum does LY DoW warriors hang out?
There's hardly anyone in Ultramar couple of nites back...

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post Jun 30 2006, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Waba @ Jun 29 2006, 06:45 PM)
For me i have been playing casual games only lately and since casual game is channel specific i cant stay in ultramar.

Lets exchange acc name and add to friend list so we can know if one another is onlne.

My casual game acc:  Teh_Tarik

Whats ur usual online acc name Ctril-Alt ?
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Mine is hahaha, ChaoticCtrl...out of action temp coz my Streamyx line is horribly unstable, timing out badly. won't see action till TMNUTs get it fixed.


QUOTE(Waba @ Jun 29 2006, 10:17 PM)
1.5 is out!!!

Bothers.... to arm!!

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 30 2006, 01:25 AM)
... waba is faster than me..

anyway here the link for the change log.

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=97185

I think Hunt should be happy in some ways.

as Ork has been nerf up.
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Some imbas and bugs have been addressed, let's see how it plays out. thumbup.gif

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post Jul 3 2006, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Waba @ Jun 30 2006, 05:31 PM)
The lag issue aside, yesterday night my 2 tac squads shoots back 2 reaper squads and a commisarred Ig squad. All the while having a turret to run back to. But the opponents are not very good so it is too early to say if tacs are OP.

Anyway waiting for the lag stuff to settle now, will add u to fren list Ctrl-Alt
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ok thanks man. haven't played much ever since my friends got their 'other interests' to attend to...haha. will get online once the TMnutties fixed the streamyx line problem.
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post Jul 5 2006, 12:02 PM

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I'm ok with this Saturday. Who else?
After trials on 1.5, damn, i don't feel like sticking to old versions.
Anyone getting this; IG Grenade Launcher = G not N. CURSEoftheMACHINEspirit = hotkey, mana????

I kinda getting this idea relic is like the local councils of Malaysia. Buat benda tak bikin baik baik, rush job...
More like stuffing players with candy and hope you'd be blind to the worm inside...
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post Jul 5 2006, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Auricom @ Jul 4 2006, 10:09 PM)
Heh. Your comeback is so weak and full of loop-holes that I could drive a Land raider through it and back.

Here's a reality check for you:

So lets say WCG.MY decides to hold the qualifier for DoW:WA.
Thats maybe lets say 20 PCs allocated for it, all brand new.
The licenses for the OS and DoW + WA.
Then you need the manpower, lets say 1 Head Marshal and 3 additional marshals to run the tourney and you'll have to feed them too.
And lets not forget the prize money for the winners, not to mention the air ticket + travel expenses to where-ever the WCG Finals maybe.

Thats easliy a rough estimation of RM70k to be spent on just holding an additional game. Who will sponser that amount for a game, that at max, will have 64 players playing. I'm being very generous here, considering that last year War3:TFT had less than 64 players participating. Dont even get me started on how many players there were for Starcraft, lol. Do you really believe that your fledging little DoW community can come up with that many players to participate ?

Compare that to running a DOTA tourney. The amount of players taking part easily out-numbers your DoW community. Just 13 teams taking part would already out-number the 64 player max of DoW. Also, you have the various team supporters coming to the tourney to show their support. Even so, DOTA is way, way more popular than DoW and is more easily identifiable to the average spectator and thus would draw a bigger crowd to the event. Plus, DOTA is also more "spectator friendly" compared to DoW.

And here comes the sponsers part. Sponsers pump money into an event so that, like you said: "sponsors main concern would be if their brand is stated everywhere in the event instead on just the mousepads the gamers use"

So by your same logic, would sponsers want their advertisments and promotions at the event to be seen by a small community of DoW players ? Or would they rather cater to massive crowds that the DOTA community will bring in ?

Do the math here yourself Hunt. Sponsers pump money into events not to lose money. They do that to position their services and products to the maximum possible amount of target audiences. And they have right tool to bring in the crowds: DOTA.

Love or hate DOTA, its the current game that is mainstream and appeals to bigger crowd. I would dare say that new CCs are being opened nation-wide, just for DOTA. Do you see that happening for DoW ? Whatever money SMM is pumping into the DOTA tourney, the prizes and expenses, they'll earn it back through the licensing fees they'll earn from WC3 and TFT.

YHBO. YHL. HAND. = )
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post Jul 5 2006, 02:02 PM

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Patched your copy yet? Let's compare.
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post Jul 6 2006, 12:10 PM

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Good job at remotely doing any reseach before replying. Most if not all local dota Tourneys are using 6.32b already.
Research for such trivialities? I'd rather move on.

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If you think that dota is going no where, CAL has got 2 divisions leagues for dota and major CS clans in the States, such as Complexity, Pandemic and Jax Money Crew have a dota team on board. It is definitely "moving on" somewhere, considering big name sponsered clans are pick up dota teams for their roster.
So? What are you waiting for?

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Make no mistake here, I dont love or hate DOTA. I dont even play it on a regular basis. I've been down a very similar path before, back in the days when Quake3 was slowly being eaten alive by the then emerging CS. I used to b itch and moan about how stupid CS used to be, being so random with the aim. I know how it feels to have your game's player base slowly being eroded away. Now, the same is happening with CS. DOTA is slowing killing it and the cycle continues.
A doesn't play B's game and vice versa. No common ground to b**** on anything.
It is called life cycle. If the old don't fade, the new won't have a chance at making a break.
Well, whatever WCG.MY wants, who the hell is there to object? Money is still #1.

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no offences to all dudes but This Thread is turning from a DOW thread to an Anti Dota Thread...
If the Dudes from Warcraft 3 forums hears this all hell break lose.
It is a well-made game. If only DoW had such resources as Blizzard to back it up.

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Anyway Dota is a Group Activity game that everyone have fun with it, I can see it from my friend like after a game everyone go laugh about how each other plays. What WCG msia do with it is their problem.
Yes, DoTA is a helluva NBTD entertaining and fun callgirl.

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Anyway Guys whats tha feedback at 1.5.
Chaos: Still as strong.
IG: balanced out some, no more abusing the CS, grenade launching on the run abuse has ended, a useful anti-vehicle option for psykers, now these guys are back in business.
SM: Feels the same, hardly noticeable Chappy healing reduction (really don't care) haha. Scout rush still viable tho.
Eldar: damn those Rangers, they're good.
Orkz: i wonder why i never randomed these fellas, sorry Hunt...bug with WA randomizer?
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post Jul 11 2006, 02:56 PM

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That's a cute Lego Dread, Waba, hahaha!

IG's a real challenge now, harassment vs opponents is limited, especially with the weaker Command Squad.
It's a helluva click-fest, especially against Eldar.

DPS data for 1.5: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=76852

Note Guardsmen melee still owns SluggaBoyz, Hunt.

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post Jul 13 2006, 12:30 AM

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tried a game on cadian gate, the stuttering movement is quite annoying, although marginably bearable, well, the game creator enabled cheat - hence my first loss with IG, hooray!
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post Jul 14 2006, 12:33 AM

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What are the specs of your rig Waba? And the IP you're getting from Streamyx?
The stutter is damn annoying. Stop-move-stop-move...you just sit there and twiddle your thumbs while your troops do the almost-Matrix-like-slow-mo of death.
Like Johnny, i'm getting a 60.xx.xx.xx too. Don't know how much this contributes to the overall lag situation.
Damn them Adeptus Tmnetus, and their vox-links.

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post Aug 2 2006, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 1 2006, 10:38 PM)
Hunt,

i just play a couple of games tonite, i find out that im a completely noob.

since u are the orks pro player here,
so can u teach me the the strats for this map? notworthy.gif  (i attached the replay)
coz i cant see any good orks replay recently.

1. The capping order for this map. I dont have any idea for capping order,
if the raptor come and harrass, i will lost all the points  sad.gif

2. When to use early storm boyz harrass strats.

3. orks economy. awww, orks econ is sux. they walk so slow and vulnurable to
early raptor, scouts and ASM harass.

4. Should i get Big Mek 1st or shoota boyz 1st?

5. orks essential upgrades? which 1 should i upgrade 1st. armour upgrades or
leader upgrades?
I hardly attack the IG's base, my orkies really cant stands with the damage of grenades launcher. shakehead.gif . Maybe there is a better way to approach IG's bases that i donno.
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Wow, johnny, even without asking those questions, you have already starved the IG economically. notworthy.gif
A little disruption on the left, while your NOB force and the rest waiting on the right, hahaha, what chance is there, what chance?

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My point exactly......the fall of another SM chapter.....its Primach - Redeye.....had his mind expose to the taint of Chaos too long that it has consumed him and his chapter. Looks like CTRL-ALT, you got yourself a new ally.....if he still plays DOW.....
If the warhammer universe has a 5th GOD, then DOTA must be it. I guess it is an honor for Primach Redeye to join the ranks of Perturabo, Angron, Magnus the Red (his cousin?), etc on the pantheon of Daemon Princes. laugh.gif

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Anyone mind to explain the characteristic of each race ??
Play the training campaign at the beginning of DoW. The narrator will tell you the basic stuffs and characteristics of each race, not in detail though.
For more info, outdated some, take a look here: http://forums.relicnews.com/forumdisplay.php?f=139
For more badass up close and personal experience, come join the SS2 Clutch regulars on Sats. Waba the Hammer is the evil drill sergeant.

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