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post Sep 30 2010, 04:54 AM

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the defence was better but saying evans and o'shea would have conceded is too much imo.we cant possibly know that and they still have their part to play..


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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 30 2010, 04:54 AM)
Well, that is easy. We all know Ferdinand > Evans.

Experience wise, of coz Rio will win. Don't you think that SAF played Evans for some reasons?

I could give some examples,

1) Rio's injury.
2) To equip Evans with the necessary.

Heck, how could anyone forget that Evans was an integral part in our defense last year? Or how Rio was raped by Bellamy in Citeh's match? Give him some break. We have enough criticism over the weekend or the past 5-6 matches.

Back to the game,

Again, Carrick is underrated by many here. Good to see both Rio and Ando back. Berba needs a partner, whether he is in a great form or not. Rafael played well. Evra was skinned numerous of times by Pablo Hernandez. That being said, Park, Carrick and Fletcher are not in good form. Excuses are acceptable for both Park and Carrick, but Fletcher? Yet, Fletcher started to play well in the second half.

It was anyone's game in my opinion. We can see a lot of dangerous balls from Valencia yet they weren't playing good themselves. With the constant backing of the ref, which I thought most of La Liga players are pansys/faggots, they still playing negatively in the first half. Space opened up for us when the substitution for Valencia came in.

Great away win for us. Hopefully this will boost some morale for the players.  thumbup.gif
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well said mate smile.gif .this why we stil need evans.every one goes trough a rough patch, and this time around its evans.i only see him getting better with the sticks his getting.

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post Sep 30 2010, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Sep 30 2010, 04:49 AM)
hard fought match, and a very important win.we got a few players back in that match and at times looked a bit scrappy but the game really opened up in the 2nd half.besides a tough valencia side, the spanish heat was apparent and took its toll on the lads.
come on mate, thats not bad at all.we came on with an objective and did just that.valencia arent push overs.

a wonderful goal but all at the same time a very good link between nani,kiko and chicharito.all 3 of them made it possible.
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I am not underestimating Valencia but the fact is we hardly got any chance in the whole game and mostly on the defense in the second half and keep giving the ball away. Credits to Rafael and Rio for fending off the attacks though.They always seems to attack the left side (maybe due to Rafael's height disadvantage) and Soldado missing damn lots of chances. In the end, one chance and bam, wins the game tongue.gif

PS: is Macheda a lucky ******* or what, I swear we always scored when he comes in so many times I have lost count
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 30 2010, 04:54 AM)
Well, that is easy. We all know Ferdinand > Evans.

Experience wise, of coz Rio will win. Don't you think that SAF played Evans for some reasons?

I could give some examples,

1) Rio's injury.
2) To equip Evans with the necessary.

Heck, how could anyone forget that Evans was an integral part in our defense last year? Or how Rio was raped by Bellamy in Citeh's match? Give him some break. We have enough criticism over the weekend or the past 5-6 matches.

Back to the game,

Again, Carrick is underrated by many here. Good to see both Rio and Ando back. Berba needs a partner, whether he is in a great form or not. Rafael played well. Evra was skinned numerous of times by Pablo Hernandez. That being said, Park, Carrick and Fletcher are not in good form. Excuses are acceptable for both Park and Carrick, but Fletcher? Yet, Fletcher started to play well in the second half.

It was anyone's game in my opinion. We can see a lot of dangerous balls from Valencia yet they weren't playing good themselves. With the constant backing of the ref, which I thought most of La Liga players are pansys/faggots, they still playing negatively in the first half. Space opened up for us when the substitution for Valencia came in.

Great away win for us. Hopefully this will boost some morale for the players.  thumbup.gif
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well said..evans still great player and will be better in the future..he is actually our backbone for the next 5 years..
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post Sep 30 2010, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Sep 30 2010, 05:41 AM)
I tell u if it was Evans instead of Ferdinand, we'd conceded. Ferdinand saved the defence quite a number of times..
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, what a joke
man utd fan konon

//serious side, cut him some slack will ya.. evans is not that bad, he is still learning.. he did save our ass many times back then if you could refresh back your mind
jeez shirlyandy.. how could you say such thing
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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Sep 30 2010, 04:57 AM)
I am not underestimating Valencia but the fact is we hardly got any chance in the whole game and mostly on the defense in the second half and keep giving the ball away. Credits to Rafael and Rio for fending off the attacks though.They always seems to attack the left side (maybe due to Rafael's height disadvantage) and Soldado missing damn lots of chances. In the end, one chance and bam, wins the game  tongue.gif

PS: is Macheda a lucky ******* or what, I swear we always scored when he comes in so many times I have lost count
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He learned a lot from Ole, I guess. tongue.gif
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post Sep 30 2010, 05:03 AM

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well we didnt get a lot of chances but soldado didnt miss that much of sitter either.half chance maybe but imo he should ave been shown the red for countless stupid things he did.

the ref was clearly too lenient in this match.forgot about rafael, he did well and looked improved compared to last season.his tackles also arent reckless as usual and well timed.
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and thanks to VDS Flying Kungfu Save also.

its the little pea's day
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QUOTE(syarz @ Sep 30 2010, 05:03 AM)
and thanks to VDS Flying Kungfu Save also.

its the little pea's day
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i think the whistle had already been blow when the kick n save was made..
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Sep 30 2010, 05:09 AM)
i think the whistle had already been blow when the kick n save was made..
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yeah....
agree with u...
although i admit that is a really great save from VDS....
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Haha...we discard Hernandez before the match and suddenly...bang. We should really talk less about him...lol
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 30 2010, 06:02 AM)
Haha...we discard Hernandez before the match and suddenly...bang. We should really talk less about him...lol
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I think we shouldnt discuss anything about the team at all and we will see how well they play... tongue.gif jk jk

Great away win..congrats to the lads. They managed to walk through the storm at Mestalla Stadium.
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post Sep 30 2010, 07:18 AM

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mexico will celebrate this historic day!
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post Sep 30 2010, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(caballero206 @ Sep 30 2010, 07:06 AM)
I think we shouldnt discuss anything about the team at all and we will see how well they play... tongue.gif jk jk

Great away win..congrats to the lads. They managed to walk through the storm at Mestalla Stadium.
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weh agree agree.. no more prediction who will score..
discuss only after the match laugh.gif
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Any1 got full match highlights? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 30 2010, 10:03 AM)
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Boss enjoys gain in Spain

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Sir Alex Ferguson saluted the contribution of Javier ‘Chicharito’ Hernandez following United's smash and grab victory in Valencia.

With the Champions League Group C game heading towards stalemate, the young Mexican substitute stunned the partisan crowd with an 85th-minute strike to give the Reds only a second win in 18 away games against Spanish opposition.

Sir Alex said: "I think what Chicharito did was he brought us penetration. Just before he scored he made a great run in behind their defence and that was what we needed at that stage of the game.

“This is a great result for us as it is not easy to come here. We have a bad record over a long period in Spain but nevertheless it was good to win.

“In the second half we certainly improved, we had more penetration about us. When you come here you have to be solid at the back and I don’t think Valencia made any great chances in the match. That said, they always posed a threat because they play good football and they get a lot of players in the box.”

With little over 10 minutes of normal time left, the boss opted for youth by introducing Chicharito and Federico Macheda to the action. His changes paid off handsomely for the Reds, as Anderson and Dimitar Berbatov took a well-earned breather.

The United manager said: “It was Anderson’s first game back for a long time playing at that level so he had to come off at some point and Berbatov did a great job in terms of the work he put in. The changes suited us in terms of energy and speed.”

Sir Alex was talking to ITV.


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6652613

Chicha cherishes dream goal

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Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez is hoping his first goal in the Champions League will be a springboard for many more as he continues his exciting start to life with United.

The young forward's decisive flash of penalty-area inspiration settled an otherwise largely forgettable match at the Mestalla, but the substitute insisted the outcome - a vital one-nil win for the Reds over main Group C rivals Valencia - mattered more than any personal glory.

"It was a great night. I am so happy about the goal but also it was important to get the win and three points," said Chicharito.

"I am glad I was able to play my part in the win. But our defence was very solid tonight. We appreciate that as players up front."

Making his mark on the Continent realised a dream for Chicharito, who previously watched European football from afar in his homeland.

"I always used to watch the Champions League when I was back home in Mexico," he said. "It is one of the most important tournaments in the world so I was always keeping up with it.

"To score in the Champions League, so early in my United career, is a dream come true for me, and a big boost. It will give me so much confidence."

The fact his 85th-minute winner came from the best team move in the match, involving fellow United substitute Federico Macheda and also Nani, was not lost on the Mexican predator.

"It was some great play by Nani to keep the ball and then he set Kiko away. It was a great ball in from him and I was able to put it away."

From scoring at Wembley against United's biggest domestic rivals to getting the club's European quest up and running, Chicharito continues to take everything in his stride as his fledgling Reds career unfolds.

"I have been settling in well in Manchester," he added. "I have been learning and working so hard because I want to do well here, I am very motivated.

"I am enjoying it and it is great to be a United player. I want it to continue for a long time."


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6652615

Rio hails Hernandez

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Rio Ferdinand praised Javier ‘Chicharito’ Hernandez after United's Mexican striker came off the bench to seal a superb win over Valencia.

The summer signing kept his cool in the cauldron of the Mestalla stadium and claimed the headlines with a cool finish five minutes from time - a goal that will further increase his stock with United fans and players alike.

Ferdinand enthused: “He is a fantastic lad. He comes to early training every day and he is one of the last to leave, he has a great attitude and he always wants to learn and get in the team. But that is the same with all the lads like Kiko and Michael Owen. We have the players who can come in and make a difference for us."

Turning to United's table-topping win, the defender revealed the Reds set out to stifle the opposition and then steal a goal. The final score suggests the plan was perfectly executed.

“I think we came to set our stall out to make sure we didn’t concede and hit them on the counter attack," reflected Rio. "I thought in the first half we contained them but didn’t really offer much ourselves going forward.

“In the second half we improved a little bit, kept the ball and then the two substitutes combined with Nani to score a great goal.

“The result is definitely a confidence boost. Obviously it has been well documented that we have let points slip in recent games and you do get nervous when you’re on a run like that but tonight I though as a team we dealt with it well.”

Having played just twice this season following a lengthy spell on the sidelines, Ferdinand showed little sign of rustiness. Instead he gave the type of performance that has become synonymous with the elegant defender and his delight at playing again was evident.

“It was good. I’m just pleased to be back and playing," he smiled. “I enjoy playing football, that is what I know and do best. To get out there and play 90 minutes is just fantastic and to get a win in Spain is great because we all know it is hard and we did it today.”


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QUOTE(choy89 @ Sep 30 2010, 04:41 AM)
and do not forget , before that goal, he almost have 1 earlier but instead it was hitting the post..
then there's another 1 once nani dribbled Valencia defender and low cross it, i thought it was released for chicarito
and he did have a go with it but too bad it was blocked.  tongue.gif
SAF introduced both of them at the right time (for this time) i guess.  tongue.gif
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Shhh.. SAF have plan all this.. thats why he seems so cool while we like cacing kepanasan. thumbup.gif

P/S : Bro Alien, u forgot to put the scorer name at the topic or u purposely did dat? tongue.gif

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SAF should rest fletcher on the next game, he need some rest n look tired thou..glad to see ando playin again n as AM last nite, that was a good performance by him..

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