i kinda feel like this is going to be your reply

Why...did you see it in a dream?

no its a feeling i experience u asking me this question b4

Ah, deja vu. What a nice feeling that is

I for one agrees that our bodies have lots of potentials yet to discover. However so, i noticed that, from personal experience, deja vu happens to me often when im in a tired state of mind. Could be that the mind is playing tricks on me.

i think that should be under hallucinating category already since u tired.

If I may explain my opinion here...

Deja-vu is something that going to happen or already happen in which our unconscious mind state has foreseen it.

It is a believe that human are living in mirrored type of world. where our unconscious mind are active which believe that has been experienced the same feeling in other world. Same as identical twins, when one feel sick another will be but Note that is not happen at that moment jus after few min, hours or even few days.
that's is the same concept which relates on the worm hole in universe.. there are many believe and theory based on this.

We have no idea that what act had happen in few million yrs ago in our earth. but we do conclude that the dinosaurs, pre-human and all these historical stuff based on evidence. But what if there was(or already had) a civilization in the world that almost similar like us who has experience the same event as we do now.

Remember that, human and all livings are a form of energy. Based on physics, Energy can not be destroyed or created but it changes the form. from this we have to realize that, the energy from million yrs ago still around but have changed form in way that adapt to situation.

So, Religiously people do believe in souls and these souls are around us . let say we assume that souls as energy as scientific term. What if these souls that we have in us are the same from the million yrs ago. So, that's why we might experience deja vu coz its already happened otherwise how we certain that its we had seen or feel before. I have discuss these concept to my physic lecturer and did some research also otherwise i wont crap here ...However its just a opinion only..

hope u can see the point in what i trying to explain here...

yeah i totally get ur point.
kinda right there.

but then again, when we experience deja vu, its usually regarding things that are current,
or how do i say, things that happen in everyday life,
not ancient things.
err do u get what i mean?

this is getting confusing.

yeah i get it.this is a good question how it relates to ancient.
U have to Note that Deja vu is something thats already happen that is why we experience the same feeling as we had before.

First:

okay, let say we go a place somehow we feel that we have been here but we can't recall it. but act it was our first time to be at the place.
hold on there...let us go backward million yrs ago..the same place was there either land or water.wat differ was how it had changed the place in aspect we seeing it now in term of building road and etc.But the atmosphere and energy around there was not changed at all..somehow we have been here.
So, wen it comes nowadays when we go a place which we feel deja vu and our mind state will form a memory based on the object or building around the place as if we have been here. This is for places or more on concrete object.

How bout feeling and thought that happen everyday?
have u experience that u have said this exact word or fact to someone before. these words been said before. there was another theory in this matter as well which is still in research . " when human are sleeping(deep sleep) where u dun aware what is happen around ur energy(soul) partial out of the host and it going all places with different energy form(energy that experience many event b4). Thats y we dream and things and word were said happen exactly as we have experienced before.

Second:

This is my own theory...How bout in trillion yrs ago there was a same identical world in same position of our earth where ppl like us had lived and this world had been destroyed due to universe cycle (something like BingBang Theory). somehow the energy is still there. thats y we might experienced deja vu.

Act, i have summarized in simple word for better understanding.

cool, i understand that.
that's quite logical.
and yeah, its the energies around us that makes us experience dejavu right?

and i've also heard a theory that dejavu is related to reincarnation or some sort (in some beliefs).

glad u have understand it.
Reincarnation mite be related...i not really sure at this part..maybe further studies will clarify it..
Cheers bro..

Deja vu is a memory of a future event. One that hasn't occurred yet. If you're wondering how we can remember something that has yet to happen, the explanation is simple. There is no free will. It is just an illusion. We are characters in a movie. We think that we are making choices, but in fact everything has already been laid out. The future is predetermined.

wow..i have a deja vu now....wait..no...it's a context from the movie Matrix...

hehehe... I really donno what to comment, this thread has taken a life of it's own.

That was in the Matrix ?? Strange. I don't remember that. But I've only watched the first one. Don't remember it ended like that. Maybe it was in part 2 or 3, and that was my memory of what I will see when I watch them in the future?

Actual observational proof of the hypothesis.

sounds creepy that what we are feeling now is the result of predestined and just acting it out, I wonder who is watching? Also, in cases of rape & kill, the girl should just let it happen if it unlucky since its their destiny. I do accept that we may be led to do what we did but the result is not entirely made, the more you believe the less likely you will achieve anything in your life because you accept the life as it is and be an ordinary person subject to influence such as terrorism act.

Deja vu only happens after you've experienced it right at that moment rather than things that will happen in the future and it could be tied with some dreams we have had before, if you have seen movies that had glitches during playback, you too will notice something like Deja vu. The nearest answer is our brain had suffered such glitches and when resume, it playback what we were doing at that moment.

Even so, I do feel that there is a chance we might be the puppet in a show and that is why people who nearly die and came back to tell bizarre stories. How do we come up with god in the first place, also heaven and hell? If its there, we are not supposed to know and if you are afraid, you better behave if after death is what you live for.

My thoughts on Deja vu are very similar to firedemon's in relation to energy recycling and the Big Bang theory. I think we are working on the same theory but will explain what i mean in case it has some differences.

I saw a documentary once in which a scientist (i don't remember the exact field nor can i take a guess at what field would specialize in water, chemistry perhaps?) found some evidence that water retained a form of memory/information. If this is true and even water can retain memory then perhaps energy itself is able to retain memories as well.

Then if we add in the theory of the Big Bang (and equally importantly in this case the Big Crunch, where at some point in time the universe will stop expanding and collapse back in on itself) it would suggest that it is possible that there could have been many rounds of Bangs and Crunches leading to the universe being formed and destroyed many times.

Take on top of this a similar theory to Parallel universes/ A Multiverse, but instead of each universe existing at the same time, they follow one after another (i'm not sure if there is already a theory covering this idea, i would assume so although i couldn't find it).

Putting all this together it would be possible to theorize that our feeling of Deja vu is actually a memory stored in the energy we are made of which has been in a similar (if not exact) situation before.

The main flaw in this theory, from what i can see, would be the unlikelihood that energy and particles line themselves up in almost the exact same way with each Bang/Crunch cycle to create a world/universe similar enough to our own that identical (or very similar) events could occur to create Deja vu, especially when you consider that the only reason our universe was formed was due to the random arrangement of matter after the Big Bang allowing gravity to work to eventually form stars, planets and even us.
But then if you followed the theory that time and space are infinite, it would be possible that an infinite number of Bang/Crunch cycles had already occurred meaning that every possible scenario was played out, in which case why is our whole life not one constant string of Deja vu?

The spanner-in-the-works here is the expansion of the universe is accelerating rather than being slowed down by gravity. So there would likely be no big crunch. Hell will freeze over though. Or at least the universe does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Freeze

Oh, of course. I forgot about that nasty little theory. Sadly the Big Freeze does seem to be more probable than the Big Crunch these days. But i still hold out hope that we are in an endless cycle of Bangs and Crunches, not to keen on the idea that we are destined to end up constantly drifting further and further away from the rest of the universe.

Otherwise perhaps Deja vu is simply energy remembering from a previous human it occupied who experienced something similar? Although there would have to be something in a theory like that explaining how our brain interprets the memory to fit our life (the actual memory was of seeing 2 horse carts but our brain translates it to cars, stuff like that).

i agreed with your thoughts and it is brilliant thats you have taken in account of the universe and space theory.

Hum... Are you guys familiar with Occam's Razor?

I think it's more likely that it came from something we experienced, but our brain messed up what it means.

I've read this book regarding our mind from readers digest. It explains why we have altered feelings. Are our days always the same? Or are some days for no apparent reason, brighter or gloomier than others?

We think, we feel, we remember; all these comes from our brain. If it is tempered with, either from physical damage, surgery, or mind altering drugs, I can tell you that everything will change for you.

As perfect as the human body is, there are still defects that we are born with from moles on our body to brain aneurysms.

It is no surprise that we may wake up one day, to feel that everything in this world is so wonderful.

Likewise, I guess it's normal that there are moments in time, that we are struck with a "hey that feels familar" state of mind.

The triggering mechanism probably misfired on having seen something which is similar.

For example, if I tell you: Salmon, Octopus, Seaweed. You'd group them as the theme, "under the sea".

The next time, if you are told: Tuna, Squid, turtle, submarine. You'd group them as the theme "under the sea" as well, making you ask "hey, have I done this before?".

If I ask you whether I've mentioned them before, you'd say no... but you've got this strange feeling like I've mentioned it before.

These existing memories can come from dreams or real life. I understand and agree that when we sleep we may be constantly dreaming, just that we do not know that we are. But I think that there is no significance, that the memories must come from dreams.

As for the other theories, I don't think we need to go that far, do you?

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Added on September 20, 2010, 4:04 pmAs for water storing memory, I'm afraid that will need proper references because it's a little far fetched.
Could it be that what they meant was to retrieve bacteria samples from stagnant water, or ice, to tell where it has been?

Energy (EDIT:) cannot be created or destroyed . Yes

Energy stores memory?
Memory can be retrieved when energy that has been together meet?
Energy remains at one place?

How much memory can a single unit of energy store? everything that it has been through?

Do we need a collection of energy to paint the picture? In which case it must all come into place before the memory is triggered?

This post has been edited by TheDoer: Sep 21 2010, 08:23 AM