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Philosophy Déjà vu, A discussion on what Dejavu is

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firedemon
post Sep 16 2010, 02:50 PM

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If I may explain my opinion here...

Deja-vu is something that going to happen or already happen in which our unconscious mind state has foreseen it.

It is a believe that human are living in mirrored type of world. where our unconscious mind are active which believe that has been experienced the same feeling in other world. Same as identical twins, when one feel sick another will be but Note that is not happen at that moment jus after few min, hours or even few days.
that's is the same concept which relates on the worm hole in universe.. there are many believe and theory based on this.

We have no idea that what act had happen in few million yrs ago in our earth. but we do conclude that the dinosaurs, pre-human and all these historical stuff based on evidence. But what if there was(or already had) a civilization in the world that almost similar like us who has experience the same event as we do now.

Remember that, human and all livings are a form of energy. Based on physics, Energy can not be destroyed or created but it changes the form. from this we have to realize that, the energy from million yrs ago still around but have changed form in way that adapt to situation.

So, Religiously people do believe in souls and these souls are around us . let say we assume that souls as energy as scientific term. What if these souls that we have in us are the same from the million yrs ago. So, that's why we might experience deja vu coz its already happened otherwise how we certain that its we had seen or feel before. I have discuss these concept to my physic lecturer and did some research also otherwise i wont crap here biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ...However its just a opinion only..

hope u can see the point in what i trying to explain here...
firedemon
post Sep 16 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Sep 16 2010, 02:54 PM)
yeah i totally get ur point.
kinda right there.

but then again, when we experience deja vu, its usually regarding things that are current,
or how do i say, things that happen in everyday life,
not ancient things.
err do u get what i mean?

this is getting confusing.
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yeah i get it.this is a good question how it relates to ancient.
U have to Note that Deja vu is something thats already happen that is why we experience the same feeling as we had before.

First:

okay, let say we go a place somehow we feel that we have been here but we can't recall it. but act it was our first time to be at the place.
hold on there...let us go backward million yrs ago..the same place was there either land or water.wat differ was how it had changed the place in aspect we seeing it now in term of building road and etc.But the atmosphere and energy around there was not changed at all..somehow we have been here.
So, wen it comes nowadays when we go a place which we feel deja vu and our mind state will form a memory based on the object or building around the place as if we have been here. This is for places or more on concrete object.

How bout feeling and thought that happen everyday?
have u experience that u have said this exact word or fact to someone before. these words been said before. there was another theory in this matter as well which is still in research . " when human are sleeping(deep sleep) where u dun aware what is happen around ur energy(soul) partial out of the host and it going all places with different energy form(energy that experience many event b4). Thats y we dream and things and word were said happen exactly as we have experienced before.

Second:

This is my own theory...How bout in trillion yrs ago there was a same identical world in same position of our earth where ppl like us had lived and this world had been destroyed due to universe cycle (something like BingBang Theory). somehow the energy is still there. thats y we might experienced deja vu.

Act, i have summarized in simple word for better understanding.

firedemon
post Sep 16 2010, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Sep 16 2010, 04:29 PM)
cool, i understand that.
that's quite logical.
and yeah, its the energies around us that makes us experience dejavu right?

and i've also heard a theory that dejavu is related to reincarnation or some sort (in some beliefs).
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glad u have understand it.
Reincarnation mite be related...i not really sure at this part..maybe further studies will clarify it..
Cheers bro..
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post Sep 18 2010, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Divas @ Sep 18 2010, 03:18 PM)
My thoughts on Deja vu are very similar to firedemon's in relation to energy recycling and the Big Bang theory. I think we are working on the same theory but will explain what i mean in case it has some differences. 

I saw a documentary once in which a scientist (i don't remember the exact field nor can i take a guess at what field would specialize in water, chemistry perhaps?) found some evidence that water retained a form of memory/information. If this is true and even water can retain memory then perhaps energy itself is able to retain memories as well.

Then if we add in the theory of the Big Bang (and equally importantly in this case the Big Crunch, where at some point in time the universe will stop expanding and collapse back in on itself) it would suggest that it is possible that there could have been many rounds of Bangs and Crunches leading to the universe being formed and destroyed many times.

Take on top of this a similar theory to Parallel universes/ A Multiverse, but instead of each universe existing at the same time, they follow one after another (i'm not sure if there is already a theory covering this idea, i would assume so although i couldn't find it).

Putting all this together it would be possible to theorize that our feeling of Deja vu is actually a memory stored in the energy we are made of which has been in a similar (if not exact) situation before.

The main flaw in this theory, from what i can see, would be the unlikelihood that energy and particles line themselves up in almost the exact same way with each Bang/Crunch cycle to create a world/universe similar enough to our own that identical (or very similar) events could occur to create Deja vu, especially when you consider that the only reason our universe was formed was due to the random arrangement of matter after the Big Bang allowing gravity to work to eventually form stars, planets and even us.
But then if you followed the theory that time and space are infinite, it would be possible that an infinite number of Bang/Crunch cycles had already occurred meaning that every possible scenario was played out, in which case why is our whole life not one constant string of Deja vu?
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i agreed with your thoughts and it is brilliant thats you have taken in account of the universe and space theory.

 

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