Philosophy Déjà vu, A discussion on what Dejavu is
Philosophy Déjà vu, A discussion on what Dejavu is
|
|
Sep 14 2010, 11:19 AM, updated 16y ago
Show posts by this member only | Post
#1
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,853 posts Joined: Oct 2009 |
Dejavu, I’ve come to realise on my own that they are simply a state of mind which are similar to that which we had felt before, and not that the event has occurred before. This could be triggered by similar events or themes that we observe, and anomaly of hormones concoctions released by our body. The problem usually is we forget those exact moments that we are retrieving from memory, I have had a glimpse, or a notion of what they were, and they are not the same as what is happening at present, it only feels the same. Like a dream which we forget when we wake, only the feelings which remain. The feeling of familiarity, without memory to equate it to, makes us think that what’s happening right now, may have already happen. Your thoughts please. |
|
|
|
|
|
Sep 14 2010, 11:23 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#2
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
751 posts Joined: Mar 2010 |
Yes i also experience before sometimes in some places. I dont really know what this happens but maybe its just that situation being SIMILAR to something we've felt before and cant clearly remember. Hence we thought that we've experience this before.
or maybe that we've dreamt about something like this before. Then when faced with something near our mind thought its the same thing |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 04:31 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#3
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
699 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Oblivion |
Deja Vu is very abstract.
It's hard to describe in words. It's the kind of feeling and expression you have when you felt like you've been through that moment before and you are repeating/reliving it. |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 10:58 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#4
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
751 posts Joined: Mar 2010 |
Ya true.Its a feeling but it never happened before. Just a feeling it happened before
|
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 11:01 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#5
|
|
Elite
24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
I guess everyone also experienced Deja vu before
yeah.... its very abstract, hard to describe But that's just me hehe |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 12:03 PM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#6
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
751 posts Joined: Mar 2010 |
True true. We dream everyday and 90% we cant remember the dreams. Maybe when we faced with the same situation in real life, then the memory of the dreams emerge and we kind have the feeling of been there
|
|
|
|
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 02:18 PM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#7
|
|
Elite
24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
|
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 02:18 PM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#8
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
699 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Oblivion |
You feel like,
'hey, i've seen this scene before' and 'hey, i've dreamt about this before'. but then again, you don't remember yourself dreaming that stuff, but all you know is that everything is eerily the same. |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 02:20 PM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#9
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
751 posts Joined: Mar 2010 |
ya ya true..btw why are we repeating the same things over and over again in this thread? Kinda un-phd like to me..
|
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 02:43 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
142 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Church of All Worlds. |
|
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 03:44 PM
|
|
Elite
24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
QUOTE(VMSmith @ Sep 15 2010, 02:43 PM) Hm. Yes... LOL, good one Haven't i seen you say this before? In fact, haven't I MYSELF said this before?? It's...it's like...deja vu! I've seen cases on TV where a person has "forseen" the future... can't remember what it was, something about a plane crashing during a festival and he "predicted" that the pilot survived and he really did.... Wonder whether that has anything to do with deja vu or not Or perhaps there's really such a thing as 6th sense? |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 03:51 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
142 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Church of All Worlds. |
Like most everyone else who posted here, I've gotten my deja vu experience mostly from the fact that I've dreamt something beforehand, then seeing it happen in real-life sometime after that.
My opinion is that there's definitely something more to our dreams than just unfulfilled wish fantasies, but the problem is separating the noise (dreams that will never happen) from the real deal. And until a dream really happens, we will never really know if it's "fake" or not. So, I'd say it's a potential 6th sense. We just haven't really learned to use it well enough yet. |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 04:16 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,429 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
deja vu should not be mistaken as predicting future or premonition.
Cause with deja vu, you do not see it in advance. You will only realize it while the event is happening or after it happened. |
|
|
|
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 04:19 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,668 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Bikini Abyss |
http://www.cracked.com/article_17103_5-way...-your-head.html
yeah, i had my daily doses of reading in there. |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 06:00 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
142 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Church of All Worlds. |
QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 15 2010, 04:16 PM) deja vu should not be mistaken as predicting future or premonition. From wikipedia:Cause with deja vu, you do not see it in advance. You will only realize it while the event is happening or after it happened. Déjà vu (pronounced /ˈdeɪʒɑː ˈvuː/ ( listen) DAY-zhah VOO; French: [deʒa vy] ( listen), meaning "already seen", from Greek παρα "para," "near, against, contrary to" + μνήμη "mēmē," "memory"), is the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has happened in the recent past), although the exact circumstances of the previous encounter are uncertain. The term was coined by a French psychic researcher, Émile Boirac (1851–1917) in his book L'Avenir des sciences psychiques ("The Future of Psychic Sciences"), which expanded upon an essay he wrote while an undergraduate. The experience of déjà vu is usually accompanied by a compelling sense of familiarity, and also a sense of "eeriness," "strangeness," "weirdness," or what Sigmund Freud calls "the uncanny." The "previous" experience is most frequently attributed to a dream, although in some cases there is a firm sense that the experience has genuinely happened in the past.[1] This post has been edited by VMSmith: Sep 15 2010, 06:09 PM |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 06:09 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,429 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(VMSmith @ Sep 15 2010, 06:00 PM) From wikipedia: What are you trying to say with that definition? Maybe you do not understand what I am trying to say. Okay here is my second attempt.Déjà vu (pronounced /ˈdeɪʒɑː ˈvuː/ ( listen) DAY-zhah VOO; French: [deʒa vy] ( listen), meaning "already seen", from Greek παρα "para," "near, against, contrary to" + μνήμη "mēmē," "memory"), is the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has happened in the recent past), although the exact circumstances of the previous encounter are uncertain. With deja vu... The event happened, for example, an accident. You will only REALIZE that your have seen the images before WHILE it is happening or AFTER it has happened. With premonition.... Before the event happen, you will yell...accident....you will KNOW the accident going to happen BEFORE it happened. Both also deals with images or experience you had previously. This post has been edited by abubin: Sep 15 2010, 06:15 PM |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 07:30 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
78 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: penang |
yea yea I have that experience too,
quite often sometimes. and even you can recall that event, you just don't know what will happen next until it comes |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 07:32 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
751 posts Joined: Mar 2010 |
Deja vu aside, when u mentioned dreams, i too think that dreams hold a hidden potential. Few yrs ago, there were things that i couldnt do, physically i mean like sports skill, then when once i dreamt of me being to do it in a sequence of dreams and few weeks later i was able to do it!!
|
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 07:36 PM
|
|
Elite
24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 15 2010, 06:09 PM) What are you trying to say with that definition? Maybe you do not understand what I am trying to say. Okay here is my second attempt. Well said bro With deja vu... The event happened, for example, an accident. You will only REALIZE that your have seen the images before WHILE it is happening or AFTER it has happened. With premonition.... Before the event happen, you will yell...accident....you will KNOW the accident going to happen BEFORE it happened. Both also deals with images or experience you had previously. With deja vu we won't know/feel that we've actually experience the event until we experienced it Added on September 15, 2010, 7:38 pm QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 15 2010, 07:32 PM) Deja vu aside, when u mentioned dreams, i too think that dreams hold a hidden potential. Few yrs ago, there were things that i couldnt do, physically i mean like sports skill, then when once i dreamt of me being to do it in a sequence of dreams and few weeks later i was able to do it!! Wah... "The Power of Dreams" haha I dunno about dreams but I've always believe the human brain holds hidden potentials This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Sep 15 2010, 07:38 PM |
|
|
Sep 15 2010, 08:10 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
142 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Church of All Worlds. |
QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 15 2010, 06:09 PM) What are you trying to say with that definition? Maybe you do not understand what I am trying to say. Okay here is my second attempt. Yeap. This is a much better definition.With deja vu... The event happened, for example, an accident. You will only REALIZE that your have seen the images before WHILE it is happening or AFTER it has happened. With premonition.... Before the event happen, you will yell...accident....you will KNOW the accident going to happen BEFORE it happened. Both also deals with images or experience you had previously. |
| Change to: | 0.0226sec
0.30
5 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 28th November 2025 - 03:22 AM |