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Philosophy Déjà vu, A discussion on what Dejavu is

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TSTheDoer
post Sep 14 2010, 11:19 AM, updated 16y ago

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Dejavu, I’ve come to realise on my own that they are simply a state of mind which are similar to that which we had felt before, and not that the event has occurred before. This could be triggered by similar events or themes that we observe, and anomaly of hormones concoctions released by our body.

The problem usually is we forget those exact moments that we are retrieving from memory, I have had a glimpse, or a notion of what they were, and they are not the same as what is happening at present, it only feels the same. Like a dream which we forget when we wake, only the feelings which remain.

The feeling of familiarity, without memory to equate it to, makes us think that what’s happening right now, may have already happen.

Your thoughts please.

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post Sep 17 2010, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 17 2010, 04:57 PM)
wow..i have a deja vu now....wait..no...it's a context from the movie Matrix...smile.gif
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hehehe... I really donno what to comment, this thread has taken a life of it's own. blush.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 03:21 PM

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Hum... Are you guys familiar with Occam's Razor?

I think it's more likely that it came from something we experienced, but our brain messed up what it means.

I've read this book regarding our mind from readers digest. It explains why we have altered feelings. Are our days always the same? Or are some days for no apparent reason, brighter or gloomier than others?

We think, we feel, we remember; all these comes from our brain. If it is tempered with, either from physical damage, surgery, or mind altering drugs, I can tell you that everything will change for you.

As perfect as the human body is, there are still defects that we are born with from moles on our body to brain aneurysms.

It is no surprise that we may wake up one day, to feel that everything in this world is so wonderful.

Likewise, I guess it's normal that there are moments in time, that we are struck with a "hey that feels familar" state of mind.

The triggering mechanism probably misfired on having seen something which is similar.

For example, if I tell you: Salmon, Octopus, Seaweed. You'd group them as the theme, "under the sea".

The next time, if you are told: Tuna, Squid, turtle, submarine. You'd group them as the theme "under the sea" as well, making you ask "hey, have I done this before?".

If I ask you whether I've mentioned them before, you'd say no... but you've got this strange feeling like I've mentioned it before.

These existing memories can come from dreams or real life. I understand and agree that when we sleep we may be constantly dreaming, just that we do not know that we are. But I think that there is no significance, that the memories must come from dreams.

As for the other theories, I don't think we need to go that far, do you?


Added on September 20, 2010, 4:04 pmAs for water storing memory, I'm afraid that will need proper references because it's a little far fetched.
Could it be that what they meant was to retrieve bacteria samples from stagnant water, or ice, to tell where it has been?

Energy (EDIT:) cannot be created or destroyed . Yes

Energy stores memory?
Memory can be retrieved when energy that has been together meet?
Energy remains at one place?

How much memory can a single unit of energy store? everything that it has been through?

Do we need a collection of energy to paint the picture? In which case it must all come into place before the memory is triggered?

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post Oct 7 2010, 02:10 PM

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Haha... I just had dejavu today. I can't explain why.

I felt like I had been in the meeting before, and the same issues were raised. In the imagined meeting, I said "Eh, I felt like this happened before", and people asked me what I meant. In the actual meeting, I just stared blankly at the speaker.

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post Oct 10 2010, 10:54 PM

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Yeah know what you mean. That's interesting.

 

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