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JenLOI
post Sep 12 2010, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(cleave @ Sep 12 2010, 05:16 AM)
Ok, wait. shahz has an SGS?????? WTH dude? You owe us a review.  laugh.gif

I've made it my policy that whenever I notice a salesman is more interested in talking about why I shouldnt buy brand x rather than explaining to me why I should buy his product, I'll just thank him for his time and move on. That type of salesperson doesnt deserve my hard earned cash and he's a total failure in my books. This would explain why I'll never buy anything from kentang_peranchis (or any of his dupes).

This reminds me of a thread I read on XDA not too long ago about an incompetent salesperson. Unlike shahz who decided not to counter punch the guy, this particular person went the opposite route and bashed the poor salesgirl to pieces. End result, he got thrown out of the by the store manager. The subject in hand : iPhone4 vs Nexus 1.  brows.gif
You can read it here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734764

The post spawned 10-pages worth of arguments discussing whether the OP was being a drama queen or the salesgirl was just asking for it for not knowing her product well enough. Fun read if you have time to kill. wink.gif
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Thanks for this time killing material
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post Sep 12 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Sep 12 2010, 02:38 PM)
Hmm.. this scenario is so familiar with the big companies..
Samsung guy = Steve Jobs vs Android.. lol...
i really dont like steve job bashing other companies with the stupid grip of death issue...
Though i don't like iPhone but i still like Apple for their macs. tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2010, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 12 2010, 02:55 PM)
Wanna see iPhone's funeral? Look who's helding it:

ZOMBIES PARTY!! <-- Click me~
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Lol... Iphone with the casket
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post Sep 12 2010, 02:59 PM

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Yeah..hahaha..old rivals tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2010, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 11 2010, 02:38 PM)
I agree with the fact about the commission percentage too. That is why its very hard to find a reliable sales person. I had a friend John Lim in LowYat whom I always approached for tech talks. He would never be biased and he hardly sold stuff from his own shop to me. He was the best sales person I ever met in the whole LowYat. Alas, too bad, he has quit his job and now works with a bank sad.gif That bank is really lucky to have a person like him working with them.
Yes, nowdays very hard to find a good salesman which is not money minded. Good salesman usually very poor in his sales figure. Because he is telling the truth too much.

and salesman should analyze buyer needs, and fits in product according to needs, not just banging other brands. and in the end the choice is from the buyer/customer

This post has been edited by JenLOI: Sep 12 2010, 03:02 PM
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post Sep 12 2010, 03:07 PM

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Depends on how you take it actually..To me, if the salesman tells the truth and is honest to me, I would trust him more and in the future buy from him again..Not to mention, encourage my friends to buy from im too..That John Lim, although he didn't recommend me anything from his shop (since he was working in BenQ which later upgraded to Toshiba), god knows how much stuff I bought from him - for myself and my friends..

Honesty is indeed the best policy..
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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 12 2010, 03:07 PM)
Depends on how you take it actually..To me, if the salesman tells the truth and is honest to me, I would trust him more and in the future buy from him again..Not to mention, encourage my friends to buy from im too..That John Lim, although he didn't recommend me anything from his shop (since he was working in BenQ which later upgraded to Toshiba), god knows how much stuff I bought from him - for myself and my friends..

Honesty is indeed the best policy..
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Yes, who knows profits in the future, people will recommend more and more network to you.
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Shameful for those salesperson whom being dishonest.
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Hmm... Same scenario when I was shopping for my Motorola Milestone

Some doesn't even know about the Milestone and started to suggest the X10 to me. I just told him that just because the X10 is selling like hot cake (that time), that doesn't mean it packs the "full punch". Furthermore, I'm looking for an Android phone with a physical keyboard, something which only Motorola has that time.

Since I'm pissed and have a lot of spare time, I just find a shop which quotes me the lowest price. Found a shop, the boss directly asked me what's the lowest price I've got and he offered a reduction of RM30 off the price. Paid the deposit and collected the phone the next day. smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2010, 10:32 PM

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Sadly, over here in Sarawak sellers aren't enthusiast and wide knowledge about variety of smart phones especially the more extinct and premium ones. Yes, Desire and Galaxy is the bee's knees in the market here but I've set my eyes on Milestone XT720. So, I look all over the town for this particular phone but to no avail. Most.... actually all of the sellers have no idea what the imbecile mind I'm talking about. Too nerdy for them I guess. Some even say 'need to order' which is a very common phase over here (I guess they said that to avoid being retarded). And when I ask how long does it take to get here, they actually reply me by saying 'I don't think we can make the order, its not very popular.'

End up getting it online lol
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post Sep 13 2010, 12:32 AM

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Dude, sad to hear such incident happening to you, some salesmen are just plain dumb and probably he doesn't really know the product that well, so condemning other products is way easier than just telling you the pros and cons of SGS vs Desire. This is the salesman problem anyway, sad that samsung has this kind of employee to "represent" them.
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post Sep 13 2010, 09:51 AM

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Yeah man. For an international company, this is not a good impact on their image. Moral of the story is pretty simpe. If you try too hard to make a sale, you might end up losing it in the end. I know one day I will visit that shop again. That day, he's going to have a seriously long diacussion with me smile.gif
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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 13 2010, 11:51 AM)
Yeah man. For an international company, this is not a good impact on their image. Moral of the story is pretty simpe. If you try too hard to make a sale, you might end up losing it in the end. I know one day I will visit that shop again. That day, he's going to have a seriously long diacussion with me smile.gif
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not only salesman,even CEO of Apple himself also bang other brands that have the same death grip as iphone.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cleave @ Sep 12 2010, 05:16 AM)
Ok, wait. shahz has an SGS?????? WTH dude? You owe us a review.  laugh.gif

I've made it my policy that whenever I notice a salesman is more interested in talking about why I shouldnt buy brand x rather than explaining to me why I should buy his product, I'll just thank him for his time and move on. That type of salesperson doesnt deserve my hard earned cash and he's a total failure in my books. This would explain why I'll never buy anything from kentang_peranchis (or any of his dupes).

This reminds me of a thread I read on XDA not too long ago about an incompetent salesperson. Unlike shahz who decided not to counter punch the guy, this particular person went the opposite route and bashed the poor salesgirl to pieces. End result, he got thrown out of the by the store manager. The subject in hand : iPhone4 vs Nexus 1.  brows.gif
You can read it here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734764

The post spawned 10-pages worth of arguments discussing whether the OP was being a drama queen or the salesgirl was just asking for it for not knowing her product well enough. Fun read if you have time to kill. wink.gif
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thanks for the funny story ..i love the dude said:

## Whats the moral of this story? Simple. If your gonna be an Apple fanboy..fine. But if you want to enter a debate with an Android user, KNOW YOUR STUFF, because we certainly do. (thanks to the awesome and intelligent as FOOK Android community)##
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 13 2010, 10:42 AM)
not only salesman,even CEO of Apple himself also bang other brands that have the same death grip as iphone..  tongue.gif
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Well said bro..well said.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lingch @ Sep 12 2010, 10:32 PM)
Sadly, over here in Sarawak sellers aren't enthusiast and wide knowledge about variety of smart phones especially the more extinct and premium ones. Yes, Desire and Galaxy is the bee's knees in the market here but I've set my eyes on Milestone XT720. So, I look all over the town for this particular phone but to no avail. Most.... actually all of the sellers have no idea what the imbecile mind I'm talking about. Too nerdy for them I guess. Some even say 'need to order' which is a very common phase over here (I guess they said that to avoid being retarded). And when I ask how long does it take to get here, they actually reply me by saying 'I don't think we can make the order, its not very popular.'

End up getting it online lol
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Actually, no offence to people from there or stay there in S'wak, few years back I wanted to buy a phone from the shopping center.

It(The phone) was quite new that time, but the sales person gave me a blank stare when I mentioned the model that I wanted.

Guess some sales person, just sales person. smile.gif
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post Sep 14 2010, 10:58 AM

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Simply said shahz..
There're so many kind of people in this world.. (I'm talking about mobile's world OK..)
1. Stereotype person: which only know and will only use one kind of brand or item and really die hard fan of it..
2. Universal person: own various kind of brand without consider how bad or good does it (uncle benny! thumbup.gif ) and the most important for them is, KNOWLEDGE..

So shahz, maybe you'd meet with stereotype person.. And don't feel harsh about it.. You know yourself which one is the best.. Me myself also really hate with any salesperson that don't know at all about HTC existence.. There're a lot of them in our country especially.. Chilled shahz!! wink.gif wink.gif
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True man..And I hope these guys will at least realize that what they are doing is not good to others and will learn the proper way of doing sales smile.gif

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