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TSbryanjj
post Sep 8 2010, 04:27 PM, updated 16y ago

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My new employer asking for my latest 3 months payslip. They said that they need these information before confirm on hiring me. But they never tell that why they need my payslip for. unsure.gif
Anyone has any idea on this issue ? unsure.gif
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post Sep 8 2010, 04:29 PM

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Confirm you really working at the mentioned company and also your salary?

Anyway, I wouldn't give them if they asked me.
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post Sep 8 2010, 04:32 PM

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post Sep 8 2010, 04:36 PM

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It's normal HR practice. Deal with it. If you were telling the truth in your interview nothing to be worried about.
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post Sep 8 2010, 04:41 PM

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its a norm practice
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post Sep 8 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(pff @ Sep 8 2010, 04:36 PM)
It's normal HR practice. Deal with it. If you were telling the truth in your interview nothing to be worried about.
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but few of my ex-companies never request my payslip also.
I am able to provide my payslips to them, but just wondering on what is the main purpose that they need it for. unsure.gif
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post Sep 8 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(bryanjj @ Sep 8 2010, 04:27 PM)
My new employer asking for my latest 3 months payslip. They said that they need these information before confirm on hiring me. But they never tell that why they need my payslip for.  unsure.gif
Anyone has any idea on this issue ?  unsure.gif
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Salary slips are Private and Confidential, ask them to go thru the HR rules first. If for salary confirmation, ask them to call previous employer and confirm, this is the normal practice of confirmation by HR at the background.

If u gave true information, no need sked biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bryanjj @ Sep 8 2010, 04:44 PM)
but few of my ex-companies never request my payslip also.
I am able to provide my payslips to them, but just wondering on what is the main purpose that they need it for.  unsure.gif
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they want to use your salary as a benchmark , increment 10 to 20% on top ur current salary maybe? smile.gif

my advice go look for other company , unless this is the company you really like.
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post Sep 8 2010, 04:48 PM

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Well, new companies have no right to ask for your P&C documents.

P&C Docs = payslip, EA form, J Form and so on.

They just want to see if you lie about your past pay and the company you worked for.

Then again, nowadays, some smaller companies use only A4 paper to print pay slips. If give own printed also they dunno la.

Ask that co. to call your previous co. to confirm la. Chances are they will fail coz your ex co's HR will not release your info to anyone at all.
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post Sep 8 2010, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Sep 8 2010, 04:45 PM)
Salary slips are Private and Confidential, ask them to go thru the HR rules first. If for salary confirmation, ask them to call previous employer and confirm, this is the normal practice of confirmation by HR at the background.

If u gave true information, no need sked  biggrin.gif
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i think my HR wouldn't simply disclose my information to them, because it is consider as confidential.
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post Sep 8 2010, 05:02 PM

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This is a common practice for most of the MNC Fortune 500 companies.
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post Sep 8 2010, 05:18 PM

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This is a normal practice. The reason is two-fold:-

- see how much they want to offer you (probably your last drawn salary + increment %)

- see whether what you say in your application about your previous employer and pay is true or not.


In your application to the company, you already disclose so much "P&C" information. So why be concerned about disclosing your salary?

You don't have to comply. On that same note, they don't have to hire you if you don't comply.

This post has been edited by CKJMark: Sep 8 2010, 05:24 PM
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post Sep 8 2010, 09:16 PM

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Absolutely agree to CKJMark, those people too concern and refuse to give payslip just because they not give true salary figure. My previous company even request payslip from my first company till last company. I have worked in 4 companies therefore I have to provide one payslip /company.
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post Sep 8 2010, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(duhdude @ Sep 8 2010, 09:16 PM)
Absolutely agree to CKJMark, those people too concern and refuse to give payslip just because they not give true salary figure. My previous company even request payslip from my first company till last company. I have worked in 4 companies therefore I have to provide one payslip /company.
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did they call to your previous companies and verify? tongue.gif
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post Sep 8 2010, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(bryanjj @ Sep 8 2010, 09:38 PM)
did they call to your previous companies and verify? tongue.gif
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Doesn't matter whether they did.

They don't have the right to demand it from you, but CKJ is speaking the unblemished truth: if you don't provide it to them, they have a reason not to hire you!

And, it's also true what the rest of the commenters said - if what you said was honest and true, why are you scared of disclosing your previous salary???

So, it's really up to you, and not up to the rest of us...
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post Sep 8 2010, 11:02 PM

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One of the reasons one would look for a new job is because one is dissatisfied with the salary one is currently getting.

One may have chosen to stay at the current under-paying job for a bit longer due to a number of reasons etc, like wishing to see some project completed to its natural conclusion rather than leave half-way etc etc. As well as a whole bunch of reasons not directly related to pay alone.

In such situations, if you give your payslip to the HR of the potential employer, they may apply simplistic rules like +5% or +10%
when you are expecting something like at least +30%, or more.

If you stay back at the current company, you'd probably get +5% anyway. So what's the point of moving?

Having said that, when you are relatively junior, there isn't much of a choice except to provide what potential employers want. When you get more senior, you can start to say "no".
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post Sep 9 2010, 12:36 AM

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Actually this kind of company asking for payslip have no principle and no good. Reason is because they are hiring someone base on money and not the skill u have.

if you believe in your skill and they have to pay according to your skill.

most HR are dumb ass , even if a top Fortune company they are just one of the Dumb ass . Dreamworks or Pixar don't do that if you ever read some of the staff commented on their interview with the CEO.

Requesting a Salary Slip means that this company has the word " DOUBT" on their forehead and if you ever work for them, every single thing you do will be under scrutinize and even surveillance . Do you want to work with colleague who play SPY Games or GUESSING game?

In order to counter such offensive question , one should raise the bar like POKER game. If they insist for Salary Slip than you are revealing your ACE CARD . ACE Card came with a cost , tell them this. An extra RM 300 and a Guaranteed of Job if you produce them the Salary SLip.

If they can't make the decision to hire you , ask them to Fly Kite and they are wasting your time.




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post Sep 9 2010, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Sep 9 2010, 12:36 AM)
If they can't make the decision to hire you , ask them to Fly Kite and they are wasting your time.
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That would be what a more senior person would do, whether MNC or no MNC - tell them to fly kite.

The junior/less experienced/insecure people would do what has been said here, ie that is "standard/normal practice", and give in.

But sorry, it's not "normal" practice at all.

This post has been edited by howszat: Sep 9 2010, 12:51 AM
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post Sep 9 2010, 01:16 AM

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Well said hackwire! Its definitely not normal practice to give your payslip to them.
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So, did you guys have any decision regarding this problem?

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