Do any of you experience people cutting your queue or you cutting people's queue? Do not talk about driving. Only applies to human queue.

Such as when buying food or tickets or queuing for rides.

I find that in China, people will cut queue because a lot of these people come from uncivilized part of China. They even have to put queue police in McDonald's to make sure people queue up. Despite that, people are still cutting queue in McD. Anyway, that is China.

What about in Malaysia? Anyone of you think Malaysians are also uncivilized bunch of queue cutting morons?

Education level in Malaysia are pretty high. I am sure people are aware that cutting queue is not right but they still do it. Is it a Malaysian culture thingie?

From religious point of view, religion only emphasize on things that are more serious such as killing or rape or stealing. But petty things like queuing is not enforced in religion. But the thing is, queue cutting is such a small matter that it is no even considered sin? So a man can go cut queue all he wants and still go to heaven (when he die)?

For example, a recent experience I had. I was queuing for a ride in a themepark. There was this man with 2 daughters behind me. Then this man pretend to want to see what's ahead and cross over me to front. Then he started standing next to me. While the queue continue to move, his other two daughter started to walk past in front of him and soon it ended up his family of three standing in front of me. I am sure this guy (and his daughters) know they have cut queue but they acted like nothing. Shouldn't queuing be a mentality thing rather than physical? That means mentally, I know I am behind you. So I just stand where I should and even if I happen to be in front of you, I should be "courteous" enough to let you pass first because I KNOW I am behind you. Instead of physically squeezing in front of people and then thinking...yeah yeah..I am now in front of you...

People who cut queues, don't you have any manners? Or you just do not care because you can get away with it from authorities or from your god?

I never did cut a cue, and as far as my experience in departmental store, ticket counters, McD, KFC and many more places, i've never seen anyone cutting queue.

cuz of kiasuness mentality for easy conclusion..

lets say if we/u do like what that guy doing..sure he will mad like hell..
sure spoil ur holiday right that time..

maybe they didn't know you were actually queuing, a lot of the times people standing around the queues might just be looking at the ride, in foreign countries people normally have the etiquette to ask "hi, are you waiting? or hi, are you in the queue?" I do not believe this etiquette exist in Malaysia.

That said, this topic is opened under phd school thread and classified (humanities). Why? :|

This post has been edited by daccorn: Sep 7 2010, 03:29 PM

u able to see if u use public transportation...animal n human that time almost same...

it is a problem in malaysia people just have no patients

Once or twice I did tell the person who is trying to cut queue to go behind the line.

Except that of course. but that because there's no instruction to queue. if there's a queue lane made at LRT, i bet people will queue.

i never did tell anyone off before but now everytime i see it happen i will tell the person off immediately it is so annoying they come infront of you quietly and pretend like they were there before

I'll bark. if someone cutting my cue, i will bark. i don't care what happen.

I am those type that won't let things like this spoil my mood. They want to cut go ahead. I usually have this laid back mood where I am not in a rush to go anywhere. This tend to create less stress. Instead of those rushing to do something to eat rushing to go rides, go watch something...rush rush rush...that is not "holiday" for me.

Reason this is in PhD, is because I also want people to talk about queue mentality from the point of education and religion. Especially do not want /k/ people to reply with their stupid one liners.

only extreme kiasu's will do it...

i never cut queue but i dont think is only malaysian problem. it happens anywhere in the world

This is clearly a queue line. Everyone there is queuing. You know...those themepark rides where they have clear definition that it is queue for that ride. Yes..people wth etiquette will not do petty things like cutting queue. Only morons who are like staying in caves do that. The bad thing is, he is setting bad example for his child.

I do believe all these bad influence and bad role model does contribute to the bad upbringing which in the end causes bad morality in the society. Things like teen pregnancy and fighting and vandalism all comes from these parents who are irresponsible with teaching their kids. They instill things like education and religion into the kids and put the responsibility in school teachers or god. They themselves are showing bad example.

I find people in Malaysia at least have very little remorse for doing anything that is wrong. It's like 'Wrong? So what? Get lost sucker'. It is a really sad environment.

My worst experience is 3 years ago at Bon Odori. Was lining to buy some stuff for my friends so I lined up at the very back. Damn the queue was so long. But when I finally got closer I knew what was going on. People literally squeezes in from all sides! With no remorse or sorry to those who have lined up for at least half an hour. What's shocking to me is that when I went back to my friends, first thing they said (since I did took a very long time), "You lined up properly is it? Just cut the queue la". I was like WTF.

Sadly this is the kind of mind Malaysian has. Still on 3rd world selfishness with no remorse for doing anything wrong.

yes..yes...good example of people do it, I do it kind of mentality. The no remorse is because of the upbringing. Their parents did not teach them about manners.

In Malaysia, I think cutting queue like at fast food restaurants aren't that great an issue.

I rarely see people cut queue, but I see people line up in 2 or more different lines of queue. Eg, a family visits KFC, KFC is often slower in serving than other fast food I believe. In such cases, the family would assign father 1 queue, mother 1 queue, children in another queue or 2.

So quite often the queues actually look long but just wait a while and you'll see that once one of the family members reach the counter, the rest will abandon their queue.

Of course I'm using FAMILY as an example. It could be with a couple, friends or whoever that happens to agree with the pattern.

They just couldn't bear to see the person that came later than them on another queue actually reached the counter first.

Perhaps that's a form of queue-cutting, what do you think?

Thats because not everyone is a doctor. It's patience.

PS : I'm always in grammar nazi mode.

This post has been edited by frags: Sep 7 2010, 05:21 PM

btw, you were correcting spelling there. not grammar.

now back to topic, yes patience is something lacking. tolerance is another thing.

I know but grammar nazi sounds better than spelling nazi

i also sometime cut queue when im in a rush.

but if there no rush i also maki at the queue cutters

hahahaahahahah!!! what u give you get back i guees.

asians have no mentality of que up...
u can see it at lrt.. or ktm..
theres marks on the platform..
let others out before enter, que on the side..
but everyone try to go in at once.
kurang ajar mah...

i am fine with people "cutting queue" by having same family member queuing in different line. That is not really cutting queue to me because they do have people queue up for the line.

What I don't like is how people find every hole they can squeeze into and then come out in front of someone and they still think it's fair and square method of queuing.

Thus in third world country, people have to stand very near to each other or else someone else will try to cut queue. That is why sometimes you see those aunties (especially aunties) stand so near to you that you can hear her breathing, that's because they scared people cut their queue. The thing is, most of the time, those people who stand so near in queue are those who cut queues.

This post has been edited by abubin: Sep 7 2010, 05:39 PM

true.. 3rd world country mentality..

i dont understand... they cut que to go into elevator, yet stand in the front of it.. if u want to go in first... move to the back.. and then they same people who want to exit first!!..WTF!!..

sampai tak masuk akal...

but i have been in usa for 25yrs.. still trying to adjust to life in malaysia.!

Just had a thought, such queue-cutters are driven not so much by the lack of patience but they're driven by FULLNESS OF SELF a.k.a. SELFISH.

my time more important than your time. I'm more important than you.

yes...elevator also another good example. These people just enter only. Don't care if people are coming out. Got one time, I made a sound of dissatisfaction when a girl just rush into the lift when the door open. I had to let her in only I can go out. After that, I think I heard some noise from her. She is saying something that sound like "what's the problem with me". Like she do not think she did anything wrong.

That's the malaysian mentality...even if you are at fault..you still say others are wrong.

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Added on September 7, 2010, 6:16 pmBTW...any comment from religion point of view? Is cutting queue a sin? I know religion teach people on doing good things. So is cutting queue something bad? What will god think about you if you cut queue?

This post has been edited by abubin: Sep 7 2010, 06:16 PM

*reminder - i think sharing religious point of view is fine but please refrain from making it into a war. if anyone deems another person's opinion is wrong or misleading, just say your thought with manner and let the readers decide on their own.

my friend once has this idea that queue cutting is a symptom of dissatisfaction with one's lot in life. i.e. i'm not getting what i want in some aspect of my life, so i act selfishly in order to get what i want in other aspects

1 - High Class Place, in short, places where you can't spend with your RM100 - but sometimes some auntie who is damn rich will still cut your queue because they think they are queen.

2 - Low Class Place, in short, train station like KTM. Nobody will queue as in like whenever a person went into the station, they lost all sense of bahasa. No matter how many times the operator trying to tell them to queue, there's still some idiot who will stand infront of the door blocking people coming out.

So what I do when I see this kind of people? I just ignore them as they didn't exists at all but if for situation like KTM, I will just scold that person. Happen a lot of time during I'm trying to get off train in KL sentral. Either end up somebody getting punch from me or scold.

When I see people cutting queue , I do only one thing. I turn on the volume of my ipod louder and hypnotize myself through the whole process.

Education certainly play a big part in educating children so that they develop the sense of mannerism and correct ethic to carry. But unfortunately, most of the teachers at school are lazy asses who only wait to get paid every month and teach only whats from the book. Other than that, they do nothing. The signboard at the canteen asking students to queue up is just for decoration and was never meant to be enforced.

The canteen operator often ignore the fact that the children wasnt queuing up, coz they are only after the money after all. As for the teachers, once at the canteen, eyes on food only and they assume that their duty as a teacher is relieved.

I think its bullshit, before we can even depend on education to provide a proper and correct education to the children and teens, we might want to look at what form of education and motivation was given to the Educator themselves first. A horse cannot teach a bird how to run, and a bird cannot teach a cow how to fly.

Parents can teach their children these values, but it is at school that these values can be applied and truly put to test. If there are 200 students in the school and only 20 of them queue up at the canteen, then these 20 pups wont get food at all in the end of the day. Our education system is rotten, they cannot even enforce simple things like "Please Queue Up while buying food" , or "Please leave your plate in the tray after eating" what more if we are expecting them to deliver in science subjects?

Our "Smart" Government is too busy wiping their ass thinking about which language certain subjects should be taught in and if UPSR should be abolished. They cant even solve such a simple thing like Queuing up at school yet. When such a failure is present, then what is before our eyes now in what we see in our daily life, is the result of that failure.

This post has been edited by Zozi: Sep 8 2010, 02:11 AM

When people cut my queue i just let them do it. Im too kind person

Well..I do not totally agree with you on this. At school it's only 50%. Another 50% need to be taught at home or role modeled by the parents. You see, parents have VERY big influence on their kids. What the do, the kids will subconsciously pick up. For example, if the parent always use foul language when talking with someone else on the phone, in front of the child. The child will pick up those attitude and start to yell at people even if they do no use foul language but the attitude is already there.

Same thing apply to cutting queue. What the parent do, the child do it also without feeling remorse because the parent is giving signal that it's okay to do it. Manners still have a long way to go in creating a better society in malaysia. But I do hope we are heading the right direction. However, with all the thinks I am seeing, this will be much longer than I would like it to be. I do not come from rich family nor am I religious person. But I am doing what I can to create a better society. I do not expect 100% moral society but close to that will be nice.

Yeah i fully understand where you're coming from, I mentioned mostly about school and educator's role in playing a part in instilling these values because TS mentioned about Education's part in this in the topic description. True that parents play a bigger role in nurturing the child than anyone else, but my point is, at school children tend to face "Queuing up" more than at home. Example given would be, school canteen, bookshop, bus stop, or submitting homeworks. Even if the parents managed to teach their children the importance of queuing up, but if at school the teachers failed to enforce this value, it would be useless as well. Another fine example would be, parents teaching children about harmony among races and the recent case where a school principal threw racist remark to the student and thus creating a wrong impression of what is right or wrong. Teachers are parents too, if they failed in making sure the children at school queue up whenever they are supposed to, then to what extend they would be a good parent , parenting their child ?

fully agree with zozi ...
+999 ....

have a good and safe hari raya to all.!!..

This kind of queuing I don't mind as much as they are still queuing. Whoever ditch their line, its a good thing for the guys at the back but might take a little later for the one they goes to. Ordering in one go is still a lot faster than ordering one by one. It's still OK for me.

Fast food chains I rarely see peopel cutting lines. Usually in a more orderly place like this or cinema for example it's a rarity for people to cut queues. Most will do when they're out of this place. Such as at bazaar, festival, etc.

The most shameless type of people I see is when dealing with counters, post office and such. A person can just suddenly went straight to the counter ignoring all the liners or sometime not even taking a number and straight away does his business. What surprises me is that the people at the counters actually serviced those people! I believe it would have been logical and more ethical to just turn them down and tell them to line up. But most people just ignores it and services them like nothing happened.

cutting queus, i notice, is more prevalent among women or ppl from chinese educated backgrounds. same with having bad road manners.

Cutting queue is one common thing.
I even experienced b4 queue-ing in bookstore in one straight line,
but suddenly one auntie queue beside but at the front of me.
And then slowly, more ppl queue behind her instead of the correct line.
Look at our country, wrong thing also can become right.
Aikz....

Anyway, i believe if u told the person who cut ur queue about it he/she will till cooperate with u.
While if u are so unfortunate, probably he/she will just ignore u.

Another related one is the act to be the first instead of slowly cutting the queue.
Example, when the train door just open, just walk into the train before letting anyone out from the train. Same to the lft.

That is consider psychological problem adi.
Need seek help from psychologist.
This psychological problem also apply to some of the rape case out thr.

You go to LRT stations, make some observation.

The queue cutters are normally female and of certain race....

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Sep 9 2010, 11:41 AM

What about elderly people cutting queue?

me too : (

haha..yeah...I have seen some cases where elderly people cut queue. They are old...so most people will let them be. Most would think these old people doesn't know the queue cause they are old. Well...respect the old like some said...

Same case for me, saw old peoples trying to get into bus. Thought of letting them in first, kesian them. But, old people even more rude than us. Literally they knock off all the ppl around them and rush into the bus.

But I don't think this is an issue in Malaysia. Wait until you see mainland China people. They are 10 times more rude and uneducated compared to Malaysians.

Those are not people, those are animals

I got experience in watching a person cutting queue, and the woman got scolded like a dog, and been forced to go back to the end of the queue, really shameful.
You should make noise and make him/her feel shame about cutting queue. lol

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Added on September 10, 2010, 4:17 pmSaw many times, people who wanna come out from train scolded those morons who rushing and push going into the train.
got once almost fighting.


lol yea.

This post has been edited by JenLOI: Sep 10 2010, 04:17 PM

I met most queue cutters are elderly people xpecially chinese aunties. They have the mentality that they are senior and they deserve a different treatment so its nothing wrong for them to cut queues

I haven't met queue cutting situations for years.. cause I just don't to places where I have to queue XD

(thats like having not lost chess for 10 years cuz i never play it lalalaa)

for me... if you want to cut in the queue directly in front of me, ask first and give me a reason why... if i don't accept, you go to the back...

if they simply cut in, i'll tell them politely where the end of the queue is... if they ignore, i will shout loudly for everyone to hear... if still ignore, i'll push them hard, step on their shoes, trip them when the queue start moving, especially on public transport queue...

even if old people you will do that? People will say you disrespect senior

*pushes raymond out of the queue* (sorrry I think I'll get a warning post over this but i can't help it)

This post has been edited by daccorn: Sep 10 2010, 10:02 PM

My personal solution of dealing with queue cutters.

Jump right infront of him/her , thus cutting his/her queue, turn around and ask him/her "How does that feel ? "

but thats so childish

If you look at it from one angle, yeah its childish. But look at it from another, wouldn't that put a smile for all others whom their queues been cut as well ? Wouldn't that send a clear msg to this queue cutter's face? Public will look at him with acknowledgement to my action, and this dude/lad will be ashamed of his/her own action

Its childish because its simple and probably most immature solution, but the result is better than keeping quiet and rant about it in the forum.
Just ma 2 cents

not really(rare) have this issue at malaysia.
but i was once experienced this at China(Dalian i think) and gosh, 1 group of China people(4-5 including women) just jump the queue in front of us when checking in the airport...my uncle scold them but heck,they don't even care and ignore us..our tour guide told us is common and no need waste time on them

Cutting queue shows that there is a lack of fairness in the country. When there is no system and so much unfairness, it is primal instinct to act against natural law.

In western countries, queue cutting is frowned upon. You may even be scolded for it.

the "Tidak Apa" attitude is whats inside the mentality of most people in malaysia, it cant be helped if the government dont act against it.

its not something the govmn can do. its how the society being brought up n its not an easy thing to change. starts from the family how they educate their children.

Government do play a big part in this in fact. If the government today announces its wish and effort to really enforce in the line of education that Queuing up is compulsory and by all means, they will make it happen. Then imagine our society 30 years later, when queuing up will eventually become a habit among malaysians. Family is important too, but family cannot work alone in producing such results, because many families out there couldn't care less.



This post has been edited by Zozi: Sep 11 2010, 10:34 AM

it is unfair to blame the government when the cutting queue has become a culture. we should aware and realize that it is not only children that cut queue but even adult and senior citizen are doing it without fail. take as for example smoking, even with all of the law enforcement and campaign done, there are still lots of smokers that continue smoking even in public area

it is time for us to stop blaming this and that and start looking within our self and change the mentality. if we fail to do this, then this issue will be habit for us malaysian for the rest of of our live.

WTF... in digital mall.. toilet... people smoking directly UNDER big sign that says NO SMOKING..!!!
one guy was even looking/facing the sign and smoking..
these are same people who have no disregard to signs..
they probably go thru "no entry" signs..
or do not STOP at stop signs..
kurang ajar............. or kurang BELAJAR??

I consider being inconsiderate to be among the gretest sin of all. And there are a LOT of inconsiderate Malaysians.

Queue cutting is everywhere in the world. It all depends on how impatient or civic conscious you are. The way you are brought up in, environment etc. does affect it, but it is not limited to Malaysia/China.

yes, i agree it happen to everywhere in the world but a lot less in advanced countries like europe or US or SG or AU.

I can tell you the location people cut queue that you can video without fail and probably land you an award. Try Masjid Jamek Lrt station at 5.30pm.

You are brave man, I normally don't have the guts to do so. (if I faced someone cutting my queue)

For me, I think that Malaysia is a country with one culture containing these two major points:

1) If you have money, you won;

2) If you or your family have great powers or even it's only you knew someone with great powers, you won.

So instead of considering about people's levels of education which effect whether they cut queue or not, I think most people I encountered cutting queue are those whom I myself would not dare to challenge.

No matter how highly educated they are, they could just do whatever they like if they have money or powers or both.

And this applies to many fields, not limited to cutting queue.

This post has been edited by L.A.C: Oct 1 2010, 11:38 AM

What you are saying is high level of cutting cue. It is different from the kind of queue cutting in my mind. There are those who are not bothered to queue because of their low mentality. Most of the times these are people who are not civic minded. In another word, ignorant-selfish-uneducated-a-hole. Yeah...that's one word....

Well, I have told people to get back in line and will continue to do so. At the end of the day. it boils down to education and the example parents show.

I know the TS specifically said not about cutting queue when driving, but I do not see how this is irrelevant. How many times have we seen a dad or mom cutting queue with their children in the car?

I made a promise to myself that when I have kids and when I need to pick my kids up from school, I will never park by the side of the road so indiscriminately like so many parents do these days. What are we trying to teach?

good sharing, and seriously, at peak hours in LRT/KTM station where the people are many, it tends to have people cutting queue. I've seen people like that at KLCC, Kg.Baru,Ampang Park, Masjid Jamek, Wangsa Maju LRT stations around 8.30am and around 6pm.

since no one shared about religious point of view, and i do not want people to think that religions TOTALLY didn't touched about that issue, im going to share something. im going to share it from Christian Holy Bible by the way.


One of the famous 10 Commandments. First of all, what does covet means.

cov·et/ˈkəvit/
Verb: Yearn to possess or have (something)
:according to google

in this case, the "something" means the position in the queue that the people have.

Secondly, who is "your neighbour"? neighbour does not only mean the families who are living beside your house, it also means the people around you, in this context, the people in the queue.

So, to put the commandment in this situation, it would be: " You shall not yearn to possess the position of the people in queue".


I think this is pretty self-explanatory.

If you think it answers the question on "How religion views queue cutting" great, i'm happy to be able of help;if you don't then....just leave it.

Please to not quote this and flame, it doesn't matter what religion you are in, as long as something is good and is applicable, we should all learn from it. If you have any problems with those, feel free to PM me if you think that it might spark unwanted flaming. I'll remove this if deemed necessary by me or mods.

This post has been edited by LovesReborn: Oct 7 2010, 10:26 AM

In UK/US also got ppl cutting Q le especially those nigar, just bump in and order. If u protest, u ll become the burger. The worst 1 is not in china, its vietnam. They ll cut Q even in airport.

Excellent question my friend.

My view on this, which is already expressed previously, self-centered. The feeling that they are more important than everyone else around. Thus creating a chain-reaction that they needs to get where they're going faster than you.

How they were brought up is the second factor. A person who grows up watching their parents cut queue will have a pre-installed mind that it is not wrong to do so.

Third is education. From house of school. Both plays an important part in this. You don't need a Degree to have common sense. So this relates back to the first factor.

On the religion side, I personally think it is sinful to cut cue. Why I say this? In Islam, you are told not to hurt others (physical/mental/emotional). So when you cut cues, people will be hurt and thus a free sin for you.

Ah...good example. Let me ask you then...since this is a sin, is there such things as big sin or small sin? Like killing people compared to cutting queue? Will religious people be thinking..this is only small sin..don't care.

im not sure about other religions, in Christianity there's no such thing as big sin small sin, a sin is a sin, and in the old testament(before Christ) sacrifices are needed for any kind of sin that each person did. You tell a lie to a person but no one gets hurt; you tell a lie and many people gets hurt, they do not matter, still you told a LIE. God's standard is VERY high, even thinking of bad things is considered a sin, let's say, you drove a car and someone ACCIDENTALLY cut your lane almost banging your car and you thought of scolding him,even though you did not actually scold him, you sinned. This is why many Christians say EVERYONE sinned(exept Jesus who is a man yet GOD, it's hard to explain here... ), and many non-Christians get offended.

To cut queue is akin to robbing another's turn of a line. And is robbery not a sin?

And surely it is an act stemming from the lack of courtesy and civility, i.e. kiasu-ism.

It is a human nature to think for them self and being selfish. This can be rectified when the person is at younger age.

If you're being cut queue while lining up buying stuff, let him cut in front of you and you stand beside him. Then cut him back! There you go, you're in front of him already! I don't think this is a very serious issues la. In my life i seldom see people cut queue while lining up to pay. Unless it's in LRT or KTM cause there's no queue at all. Everyboy was gushing in and out once the train stop so how to queue?

However, one thing i cannot tolerate is when drivers cut queue on traffic light. Wait for good 3 minutes on red light and out of nowhere some buggers come drive in front and try to cut. This will not tolerate. What makes you so superior that you have the right to cut queue when all the drivers behind wait patiently for few minutes due to red light? The car that you drive make you more superior? Cause it's bigger and more expensive? I have encountered this dozens time and if they ever cut in front of me, i will move my car as close as i can to the car in front and if they still try to cut, i honk them till kingdom come man. Always happen in USJ toll from PLUS highway.

Normally if someone cuts queue I will shout "HOOI U tak tahu berbaris ah? ", then everyone will look at the fella then the fella will malu and go back to the line

actually i think the climate has alot to do with us behaving in this way (cutting q, etc).

for example in driving. looks at typical msian driving style. always rushing, to get from A to B.

i notice many ppl once they get into their crs will start to complain its hot and warm. of course its hot, we live near the equator!

i'm sure most of them r very well educated. at least most of them finishes schools or colleges.

so i think yea we need to stop being in a hurry, be more patient. and tolerate the warm weather.

That is nasty. But, what if everyone simply looks away? I mean, you assumed that you have a friendly crowd, like kampung friends, etc. I was cut many times when traveling in Beijing, and each time, it did not cross my mind to draw the public's attention.

i used to think like you last time. i never let these ppl pass. but years of experience on the road later...i find that the reason for them trying to move into your lane isnt necessarily because they cant wait in line. Its more than likely because they arent familiar with the road. And sometimes...it might also be because they have an emergency.

As i grow more and more calm and understanding, i seldom stop ppl from changing into my lane. I start to apply the give and take outlook on the road. I learn to trust that majority of ppl arent asholes and if they need to cut queue, there must be a good reason for it. So what if some of these really are uneducated bustards...it wont affect your life one bit. There is vitue to erring on the side of caution. The passenger in the other car may be dying for all we know.

in my personal experience, most of the queue cutters are of chinese descent. perhaps it's the chinese culture that dictates everyone for himself, or selfish is the way, or do whatever it takes to get what you want

this can be applied to the Chinese driver giving bribes as well. once I opened up a thread about "why do you give bribes to the policemen" and in general. the Chinese say that "why bother paying the full saman if you can just give RM50"

to get back to the TS's question, no I dont think it's the education level, but it's the Chinese culture that makes it ok for your kind to cut the queues. and to give bribes.

sorry for sounding a little racist and prejudiced, but this is my observation of the Chinese culture. Malays on the other hand, don't speak up. so it's not the best amalgam of society when the Chinese steps on everybody's toes.

I like the way you think. Be optimistic and forgiving and you lift a heavy burden off your chest.

I agree with what some of our forumers say that it's a matter of civic-mindedness. It's akin to throwing rubbish by the road side. For kids, it would be the influence of their upbringing. However for those of us who have already passed that stage, I genuinely believe it boils down to the way we carry ourselves. Our attitude and principles towards day-to-day habits like this.

In terms of religion I have no comment. I still think it's more of an attitude problem rather than religious beliefs. I have seen people who can pray 7 days a week, but still argue with every person on the road over petty little things or squeeze discounts out of a poor vendor.


Personally whenever I encounter people who cut que, I just live and let live. There's no excuse to cut que especially those who "pretend" to look at what's up front. If you're courteous, you'll ask "oh, are you que-ing here?". Though I was abit angered when I saw two teenagers cut a que of 2000 people during the UniQlo opening last week.

cutting queue = uncivilised

become an educated 5 years old child also will queue up once they are trained to do so.
wat to say if adult do this?