yea i got the "klok klok klok" sound on the driver window side too. Never bother.

Others works just as fine.

wow ok... after driving this car for a year now baru i know it will blink if the reserve tank is nearing empty. cuz everytime it lights up after a while nearing the empty level i go pump already.

can someone confirm this fact?

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Sep 8 2010, 09:31 AM

so this final stage of blinking low fuel warning light applies to PE or all Persona versions?

I know its not healthy of the fuel pump and the engine but i just wanna know about the car that's all.

- you will regret more if you buy a Perodua with the exception of Kenari and Kelisa. Trust me on this man. Been there done that. Perodua used to be better in QC than Proton. Now it is totally the other way around.

-funny that you dunno what u have under ur bonnet. anyways... the belt is located on the left side. same location of the engine timing belt.


-usually no symtoms.

-yes. single belt that drives the alternator, water pump, power steering pump, aircond pump. this belt is driven by the crankshaft pulley below.

-once break, no more electrical to battery charging, no more power steering, no more aircond and for sure engine overheating due to loss of water pumping.


Generally these belts can be inspected periodically by ourselves. Use a bright torch light to inspect the under side of the belt and top. The belting is most visible from top and bottom of the car. Can see from under the front bumper also. Check for signs of cuts, cracks and wear. Generally these belts can last till at least 100,000KM. But do check on it every 10 to 20k or so since it is so easy to inspect yourselves.

whoa these few days raya mood forum moving soo slow....

i am still holiday mood damn it. brain freeze......cant do work!

someone send me some kek lapis please!

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Sep 13 2010, 02:45 PM

oh... for me i am used to it. cuz my previous car was a low rider and scraping the front nose is pretty much common thing

my Persona however, got many scratches also mostly due to misjudging the distance to the curbs while parking!

remember mine from many many manyyyyyyyyyy pages ago??? had orifice fitted.... BUT still do have that sound but soo much lesser. i still occassionaly hear it especially going down or up / to the left a ribbed road ramp.

- in fact anywhere between the low and max line is absolutely fine. anything above the max line is NOT. There is a reason why the max line is there. It is not to be overshot by 1cm or even 1mm. Max line means max. Never exceed it. in fact i prefer my engine to be half filled rather than max filled. why? much lighter engine.... really makes a lot of difference.


-yes u are right. more less that kinda scenario....


For over 10 years driving owning couple cars and driving few others.... i always have problems with workshop mechs OVERFILLING the engine oil. It goes from bawah pokok mechs till the soo called "pros" in Service Centres.

My ex MyVi....... always overfilled. Screw them all the time.

Now my Persona. Same thing. Some more telling me in the face that CAMPRO NEEDS 4L of engine oil SHIT?!

Last service i went it goes like this:-

Mech: draining the oil...

Me: eh, later dun pour all the 4L oil into the engine. Leave out some.... *me showing how much to leave out

Mech: Oh okay.

Me: Observing....

Mech: Time for refilling...and started pouring the oil

Me: Eh remember ah dun overfill. Just leave this much out....*me showing it again how much to leave out by hand

Mech: But Campro engines need all 4L engine oil.....continues pouring......

Me: eh please.... dun gimme that nonsense ok.... who said? It is always OVERFILLED. That i have to go to the trouble of getting it drained the next morning.

Mech: Mb u bought the 5L pack?

Me: Look.... Campro does not need 4L of engine oil OKAY. It is stated in the book and the last time one of u did that it caused me having to drain it out the next day. And it was way over the max line on the dip stick when checked early morning.

Mech: Ok ok.... puts down the bottle.... check dipstick.... noticed that its not max level yet.

Me: Its ok... i will refill it later if not enough. I know what i am doing.

Mech: Checks again and started engine letting it idle for while before shut down. Rechecks the level....

Me: Keeping a sharp eye....

Mech: Reaches the bottle again.... and started to pour....

Me: eh enough i said.... (after shown the level on the dipstick)....

Mech: not enough later ur engine jam.......continues pouring.....

Me: Look man, i said enough is enough ok! ENOUGH!!!!!!! *me snatching the bottle away from him

Mech: Ok ok.... then finish up everything else before passing the keys to me........

What a f***ing idiot....... CAMPRO needs whole bottle of 4 liters of engine oil BULLSHIT.

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Sep 16 2010, 01:16 AM

anyone uses lighter engine oils than 40? Tempted to try 30 on my persona.

aduh...... why are you soooooooo........

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Added on September 17, 2010, 11:26 amcoming from a long time anti Proton (from me) yes it is surprisingly. turn for the better de. although still not really there but its far better than before.

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Sep 17 2010, 11:27 AM

urs is with or without IAFM?

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Added on September 17, 2010, 9:33 pmbtw just some information sharing....

my bro's newly own 2nd hand Persona H line Auto 08 model non IAFM.... i noticed that the FC is stated 11 per 100km as compared to my persona 09 IAFM Auto at 7.8 per 100KM. That is a huge difference!

Are those non IAFM version really suck far more fuel than its upgraded versions?

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Sep 17 2010, 09:33 PM

-reset twice lo

-yea i know. i just wanted to compare between these two non iafm and iafm versions. i am so far ok with the fc. no difference for me because my previous ride a 1.3 auto is more less the same fc. so.... anyone have non iafm versions here can gimme some answers? is non iafm version definitely consume more fuel than the iafm version?

remember the days whereby there are reports of the crankshaft of the campro engine fails? SEE this link - http://gilagen2.20.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=389

so far for quite a while now, i have yet to hear anyone else' crank shaft fails. Proton improved the parts already????

What is our standard warranty like? 1 or 2 years?

OCI at 5k or 10k depending on semi or full synthetic oils are very subjective in modern times among owners (personal preference etc...). For me, i change at every 10k on semi syn. No problems with warranty at all.

-your problem on item 1 still exist? I thought u fixed the orifice valve thing already??? Mine also. But i lazy to rectify it.
-Item 3 yea mine also. But occasionally it's gone.
-item 4. I heard all Personas with rear disc brakes have the same problem since its first batch.

- yes his is slightly different from mine and my bro's 08 model. but basically its the same location. See the carper right under it? it is basically blocking you from pulling the filter out easily. So... press the carpet down firmly and slowly slide out the filter element. Tight clearance though. Note: Clean the filter regularly to ensure optimum aircond air flow.

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Added on September 21, 2010, 2:57 pm-do you mind posting how to "solve" the vent rattling problem??? Mine all the vents are rattling!!!!!!

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Sep 21 2010, 02:57 PM

the sponge around the frame is easily replaceable (DIY). Can be bought in most craft / art accessory shops.

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Added on September 21, 2010, 10:18 pmmine 2009 auto pump RM60 RON95 will go till around 310 to 320KM on average. 99% city stop and go driving.

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Sep 21 2010, 10:19 PM

- got mine replaced at 9k KM to Trestor Advantage Blue.

-nola where got brain surgery? its just plug and play only. Located right under the dashboard behind the aircond control knobs. ur persona must be the Elegance model right? Elegance famous for ECU problems. But that was before.... now very rarely hear of it anymore.

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-long time punya brand la... its been around for years already. another brand good to use is Bendix Metal King Titanium.
-Trestor Advantage got lotsa dust almost the same like the lousy original Proton pads. But i am fine with it since i clean my ride every weekend. Bendix Metal King Titanium however is less dust.