but where do you stay? the only thing I don't like is the location of it is in the middle of no where. A very boring, and far city. What course do you take in lkw?

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Added on September 3, 2010, 10:45 amHmm. But I heard TOA for ID has 3 years for Diploma, and no Degree. While, lkw got 1 year foundation and 2 years Degree.

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Added on September 3, 2010, 10:47 amOwh.. but now TOA has only Diploma right? The good thing there is Eric Leong is there. Hmm.

This post has been edited by ilovepink: Sep 3 2010, 10:47 AM

haha even though u r staying at the hostel, but still u cant walk from hostel to campus..its just TOO FAR!! if walk i think u need to walk at least 1 hour(provided u have the energy)..haha..but no one do it before i think..they either drive/tumpang ppl's car/squeeze bus with foreigners.

yeah..toa only has degree in GD and MM..ID only diploma..thats why keith chee said mayb TOA will launch degree for ID next time.

haha..today eric leong just gave a talk to us..serously he is a DAMN FUN PERSON! not sure how's him in class..but when he's giving a talk,he's SUPER NICE! he gave the talk for 1hour and we all laughed 1hour for non-stop..

Wow, you guys are seriously making TOA sound like a nice place to be in!

if u r listening to what a TOA students said,it might be quite unfair..he/she might dunno whast the advantages/disadvantages of both college..

but im a student of lkw and why i quit..i sure have my own reasons right? haha..

ok well i think TOA is really a serious school..quite strict too..
today the principal of TOA, Tatsun Hoi just gave us a talk..i truly agree wat he said..we join TOA just for one reason, WE WAN TO LEARN..as simple as that.

so if u r a person who are looking for freedom,relax lifestyle, feel free to choose any colleges u wan..but not TOA..if not it gotta make a hell of ur life..however, if you are a person who wish to achive what u r aiming all this while, learn things u dunno, willing to suffer for now, TOA is the right place..so it really depends.but don even 4get, u r spending ur parents money now..choose the life u wan...=)

btw, i think ID is much more interesting under the guidance of eric leong..he's quite active and he not just teach u bla bla bla..he said he more focus on practical,thats why he organised lots of exhibitions,competitions etc which i don think lkw will do.

True, everything has got its boons and banes...

But what you said, between choosing freedom & relaxing lifestyles and suffer at the beginning but wish to achieve what one's aim, I'd go for the hard choice.
Going through the crisis, but in return gaining something valuable in the end, I guess it's worth the effort huh?

yeah..of course..=)

u may visit MIA, not bad for interior course

I just visited LKW today! And I think it's really a nice place.. more like a university life, as it's in a campus. The only thing I don't like about TOA is it's in shoplot. Making me feel like I'm going for tuition and not much like a Uni or College. But after I read what you commented. Myself want to LEARN, not to just relaxing. How many months have you been in LKW? And why did you quit? Because it's not strict enough?

LOL! YES! the environment there is awesome! the campus look cool right? thats what i think also..

but like what i said last time..depends on urself actually..i dunno what kind of person are u..as for me, last time my class got around 20+ students..and there're only around 5/6 locals..and among the locals, only 1 local guy..means whole class 2 local guys..its not that i don like to mix with foreigners,but sometimes its quite hard to communicate, and u will find that the place is not belong to u..

last time i told my toa lecturers that im a lkw student previously and she said if u wanna to be in lkw, u must be very "COOL"! haha..well i don really know how she define COOL..=)

as for TOA,its shoplots but now i think its nice lo..its not that boring like lkw..u gotta trust me..lets not talk about whether the assignments will make me hate TOA next time onot..haha.

but the veryyyy first reason is when i start my studies in lkw, i totally got a thinking that "this place is not belong to me, i just come here study thats all".. but at TOA is diff..when im there, everything is just so friendly and nice..thats what i think la..

Hmm,well..tell u something..IF u wan to learn, TOA is the right place.why? even the lecturers in LKW ask us not to further our studies there..unbelivable right? its true..but i wont reveal out the lecturer's name..when i proceed the school leaving procedure, the lecturer ask me what happen..i told him im quitting..he ask me why and where im going..i said "TOA"..and he replied "good la..there's good"..

raffles international college for ID not good?hmm i think quite famous is it?

HUH? The lecturer themself saying leaving is good? LOL. Omg, unbelievable. Are they even serious in teaching? -.- And now I really dont know which to choose already la.. Or maybe when the lecturer say "good" maybe is in sarcastic manner? Hahaha. Wth. I dont know. -.- And somemore lkw is so damn farr, pay toll also pay until pk! But my friend say lkw you get to speak english with foreigner and not only mix with the local people speaking chinese only. Lol. That's the thing lor. Environment awesome, cool and big campus that's all. HAIZ. Well, I changed my mind only going in next year. So I still got plenty of time to think which college I should go. But after heard what you say.. I might choose TOA then. But anyway, which course did you take? ID also? Or other design courses?

lol..he really mean GOOD la..coz last time in teaching he already said if u having foundation here nvr mind..but its better not to further degree at lkw..

get into TOA la..trust me u wont regret..as long as u don mind the TONNES OF ASSIGNMENTS can d..haha.

as for environment, things u dislike at lkw will also cover up the advantage of environment..and actually inside TOA is nice too..don mention outside la..haha

Can you list out the good stuff about TOA compared to LKW? Just curious!

haha..thats why i say depends lo..see which is ur priority..but what i like about TOA is :
1) teaching more serious
2) inside environment (NOT OUTSIDE)
3) easy to have more friends(almost everyone local)
4) more convenient(easy to find food,buy things)
5) the environment makes me think the place is for me to study and learn..i dunno why..but in lkw, i jsut think that since i pay money d, then i learn lo..thats all.
6) some handsome/pretty lecturers..nah..just joking..=)
ETC..
p/s : but i dunno whether i will start to hate toa coz of my assignments onot la..haha..at least i have experience in LKW so i know how to manage my time properly.

Hey, thanks for the insider! Lol quite funny right there when you mention 'handsome/pretty' lects...b..are you sure?

Well, I feel like going to TOA after many recommended plus loads of positive stuff about it , Just 1 more year & I'll say so long SPM!

Thanks, master of experienced student!

This post has been edited by LZ Zach: Sep 16 2010, 12:01 AM

LOL! u r still a sec school student? lol.. i thought u r working already or what..hahaha

btw,as for the handsome&pretty lects, i shudnt comment much..come here n study and see urself..HAHHA..currently my lecturers all very young one..all like less than 30..

oh ya..not much fun after class for u in toa a..LOL! after class u have to go home and do assignments...

What made you thought so? Lol, maybe I post too often xD!

Oh, the lects are <30? Wow, I wonder if they really have good exposure and training in those creative fields...So, right now do you think they're good enough? I mean maybe they're competent and equally passionate to teach? I somehow worried that the quality of teaching might dropped over the years, as news have shed lights on it for quite some time...

And hey, one question...most of the assignments you do are tediously long? From many post I've read, usually it could take almost a day and you can only rest a few hours, is that true? How is it like for you in your daily life as a TOA student?

My bad for asking too much, I guess curiousity is my middle name!

no worries..i don mind spending time to reply u..i don wan ppl to follow my footstep..haha..

oh well..yeah..lots of them are below <30..thats my current lecturers la..not sure if other sem other class..example,my figure studies lecturer already been teaching in toa for 6years..and he just said to us today that he will teach us what he know..and somehow i agree that we cant depends on lecturers that much..we have to do our own research as well..but what i can comfirm between the lecturers in lkw and toa, lecturers in toa is 100000000% more serious than lkw..

as for the assignments,give u this face to explain everything " "

lets say in 1 week, u have finished art assignments, design,drawing, figure studies assignments..IF u anyhow do,they reject..good luck to u lo..REDO+the current week assignments..next week submit two..try submitting late without a valid reason,and u will know whats gonna happen..not only this, u still have those communication skill presentation/malaysian studies assignments/history of art assignments as well..

Right, like all aspiring artist wouldn't wanna follow an experienced student's footstep.

Wow, the lects must be really dedicated from what you said...and about the research, I'm wondering if I could ask what kind of research would you do if you're on your own?

Oh and that face...don't tell me assignments are gonna be hell? Ugh..don't tell me it's even more tedious than doing school homework?! Hey...I didn't know there are so many types of just -art- assignments?!

Wow, it must been a headache for you huh? But I guess you can always head to the nearest recreation funland -->Sunway...is it true?

research? aiyo..example,lets say figure studies..ur lecturer teach u how to get a right proportion..but after that u also can do some research on how to get perfect one, or etc..all related to proportion..bcoz therer're still lots of things for u to learn and lecturers wont be able to teach u everything..imo la..hehe..

as for the assignments..u come n see lo..hehe..assignments/redo/presentation/research come together..=)
art assignments not only draw la..have to learn design elements as well ma..

go sunway? cannot la..no time d still go..lol..if finish assignments then go can la..hehe