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 COUNTERFEIT Windows 7 Retail BOX, How to know FAKE Windows 7 BOX

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post Sep 8 2010, 10:09 PM

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Oh my godness. This type of counterfeit is really DANGEROUS!! shocking.gif Thanks for the reminder. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 13 2010, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Sep 12 2010, 06:07 PM)

Added on September 12, 2010, 6:10 pm
Yes, there is, but I can't find the article Microsoft published about it. However, take a look at this safety guideline when determining software's genuine status.
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post Sep 17 2010, 06:29 PM

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The possible consequences is that microsoft will notify you if your copy of windows is not genuine. However, it is known that sometimes microsoft accidentally label Genuine copy as non Genuine. But, if u experience this multiple times, the chances are higher that it is non genuine copy of windows.

The last thing you ever want to happen to you is to only find out that the windows cd or dvd you bought is the fake ones through customs officers.

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post Sep 21 2010, 01:31 PM

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@macyhouse

Last time when i read the Microsoft T&C when installing the windows, it says it would not compensate more than 5 USD from Microsoft or related parties if anything goes wrong.

correct me if i am wrong because it is a very long time i did not read its T&C.
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post Sep 24 2010, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(macyhouse @ Sep 21 2010, 06:08 PM)
Got that meh .. no la .. unless you are saying from BOX .. meaning buying software only and install to DIY hardware  hmm.gif
you only get to read it when you install i.e. when every idiot skip and just accept .. LOL .. me included ..  cool2.gif

Ok la .. next time i copy and paste out ah .. LOL  tongue.gif

No time do reseach on this la .. not confirm .. but sure dam long list of clauses .. for sure hardware mati not their problem .. 1 cent also won't give one .. LOL

But if software + hardware = official distributor ... all warranty base on distributor lo  biggrin.gif

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Point taken ... what i said above is more to OEM validity and not warranty ....
Come on ... I install XP , Vista , Office ... if hardware spoil, i blame hardware or other application .. never on Windows right  smile.gif
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Yup. I read the T&C last time before install it. So far, i never heard people blame windows for hardware failure. Thanks for the info, anyway.

QUOTE(Visualize @ Sep 22 2010, 09:37 PM)
Anyone know any reputable sellers in Lowyat selling Windows 7? And is the price for Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit RM369 ok?
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The Windows 7 home premium comes with 2 dvd for the 32 bits and the 64 bits. RM 369 is still ok.
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post Sep 29 2010, 08:34 PM

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Not only for the windows. Even handphone hardware also need to becareful. These cheaters are damned pro already.
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post Sep 30 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Sep 30 2010, 01:59 PM)
Yes, you're right. Now Microsoft Store have been updated to support Malaysian buyers.
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It is indeed a useful website for information. However, the price is not that "ideal".
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post Oct 6 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(prospeed_ballz @ Oct 5 2010, 05:53 PM)
i am in search for a new notebook...when looking at toshiba brochures i see one of the spec (F60 S5321) it stated genuine windows 7...later i ask the SA do i get the original copy of the windows incase i had to format the notebook.....the SA told me no cd coz it already preinstalled but can burn it to other cd......is it true....?
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For toshiba, that is the problem. shakehead.gif

I have to tell my friend to help me to do the recovery backup image once he have installed the all the softwares to ensures that next time when my friend want to format the laptop, he still have an image to restore his Genuine windows 7. The only piece of backup avaliable to him. doh.gif

Forget to do? Say goodbye to your Genuine Windows 7 if you format it without having a backup image to DVD.



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post Oct 6 2010, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(prospeed_ballz @ Oct 6 2010, 09:28 AM)
thank you Quantum.......

at least the SA r telling the true......so we can use the image over and over again rite......?
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If you don't lose your DVD, you can do so.
I always restore my backup image every month actually to clear up my system.
Keep it as good as new.
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post Oct 6 2010, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Oct 6 2010, 07:00 PM)
BTW for SEA region it is made in Singapore.
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A lot of people knows that. Why Microsoft would spend money to ship the Genuine DVD all the way from Pureto Rico to SEA while they have their own factory in Singapore?

Just like last time when my father's friend accidentally bought 2 FAKE nokia handphone.

I was quite suspicious about the sound quality and its Country of Origin; Made in Finland.

The FAKE nokia handphone quality is so good until i am fooled.

I only realised it when it cannot connect it to the computer using the PC Suite.

The only way i know to differentiate them is through testing the camera. The FAKE ones still does not have the auto focus feature for their camera labelled as "Carl Zeiss Tessar 2.8/5.4 AF 5MP".

Nowadays, those counterfeiters are real professional. doh.gif
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post Oct 7 2010, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 7 2010, 09:02 AM)
Really? I thought some Nokia phones does originated from Finland, the motherland of all Nokia phones, no?


Added on October 7, 2010, 9:04 am
Yes, I believe the prices on Microsoft Store doesn't reflect the current prices in Malaysia, perhaps they need someone from local subsidiary to manage the prices.
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I have 1 N82 also stated that is "MADE IN FINLAND". Thank God that is the Genuine 1. Recently most of the nokia phone is produced in China, if i am not mistaken.

Even the Nokia Blog shows that N8 is shipped out from the Nokia factory in China with DHL.

So far , i have not seen any Nokia N97 mini or Nokia X6 is "MADE IN FINLAND" yet. ( because i was too busy with my studies, so i did not involve myself in doing business temporary for nearly 2 months)

As for the store, it is good for those people previously being conned with the fake windows to buy from them since they are the official 1.
Getting things from official channel usually is more expensive. No doubt about that.
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post Oct 14 2010, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 14 2010, 05:51 PM)
Microsoft has offices all over the world smile.gif
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True. But not all of them have facility to create the Genuine Windows DVD.
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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 17 2010, 03:28 AM)
It's so cool, after looking at seantaro's first post with all the comparison photo, now I can spot fake in an instant.

I was just browsing the eBay listings, and it's just ridiculous how many fakes there are, I don't think any of them is legit. At least the ones that show the COA sticker photo are definitely fake, and the ones that don't show are "probably" fake, since the price is a dead giveaway.

Another question, how do I spot a fake MS Office? Pretty much the same things that you pay attention to for a fake Windows 7?

Thank you all. This forum is awesome, it really saved me a lot of trouble!
I was so tempted by the low price on eBay.
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Remember, people always wants to "gain" from sales, either cheating or profiting from it unless for special circumstances such as selling second hand stuff or short of cash.

Always try to understand why people sell cheap.
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post Oct 18 2010, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(cycquest @ Oct 18 2010, 01:00 PM)
PIC WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE
i just receive the seller sending me the pic for the windows 7 ultimate he selling .this guy is trcttr. i have no idea is fake or not but from the picture is seems fake. beware if your guy need to buy.
here the pic he sent me .first time i  asking the pic he give me very blur one so i ask again.
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Take a look at the first post picture no.2 and first box on the top of the picture.

I think it might be one of them.
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post Oct 22 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 19 2010, 01:44 AM)
thx 2 u...now i know how to detect whether ori or not...i'm using w7 pro now,no prob to update n installing mse...i think tht a true genuine w7... rclxm9.gif
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Counterfeiters always "improves" their product over the time. Ask for the receipt when you have bought such a stuff at all times.

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 22 2010, 11:00 AM)
I've encountered such website(s) before and this is what I can summarize about them:

  • OEM Software? Bullshit! - OEM softwares especially Windows and Office have COA and you will need them to prove that your software is genuine.
  • Can't receive updates? Bullshit! - If your softwares are genuine, no matter if it's retail or OEM, you should and can receive updates from publisher
Those softwares on their site are either stolen full version softwares (that doesn't require online/offline activation), softwares with generated license keys, pre-cracked softwares (that have licensing part stipped) or abuse uses of license keys (in case of Windows and Office).

Once, I found a link on the Internet to those kind of site that offers Photoshop CS4 which they claim to be full original version. I somehow managed to extract the direct link to the file and downloaded it. Guess what, they put in a keygen in there and ask their "customer" to generate a key for their use. So much for the original eh?

My advice? Stay away. It does tempting as the prices are waaaaaay cheaper than any retailers can offers, but it's not worth your times, moneys and efforts.

For eBay however, you can still deal with them, but you need to be really careful. Most of the times, I only buy vintage softwares as those are hard to get and, well, since it's vintage, no one bothers to counterfeit them.
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Heed the advice man. it is for your own good.

Things that are too good to be truth is not as it seems to be.
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post Oct 23 2010, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 23 2010, 06:29 AM)
I know, if something sounds too good to be true, it most likely is.

It's just that these websites seem so legit, and they blatantly sell illegal products and nobody has yet done anything to them. A stupid person like me would think "well, they've been on the web for a long time, if they are doing something wrong, something bad should have already happened to them".

I guess I just have to control my cheapness and greed, so I don't end up buying these super-deal-fake products.
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You are not stupid, man. It is the cheaters are brilliant in an evil way.

It is hard to shut down all of the illegal sellers. So many bad guys in the web, but how many police is policing the wild wild west sites?

Mods of the sites usually have work to do. Until they are notified and decided to take action, only the bad guys' attempt to sell will be stopped. But even they are stopped in this way, it is free to create a new identity or account to continue to cheat in some sites. doh.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 23 2010, 03:47 PM)
owh...really??but when i purchase w7 pro the seller not give me coa???wtf!!that mean its fake???
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 24 2010, 04:51 AM)
The key is genuine, but most likely taken from a TechNet/MSDN subscriptions, which is only meant for use by the account holder. So if you ask me, I'll still classified that as not genuine as you can't prove that you buy it because you didn't get any COA or any proof that you've purchased the real thing. If possible, I suggest you to ask for refund if the seller can't provide some kind of concrete proof of its authenticity.
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I have friend offer me the genuine windows 7 pro for about rm150.

When i ask about any proof of purchase such as receipt or DVD or COA, he said no, but he said that those copies activated through the Microsoft server is different than offline activation to persuade me to buy.

At the end of course i say no. THERE IS NO WAY OF PROOFING I PURCHASED THE SOFTWARE. When it comes to Intellectual Property, it is important that you must make sure that the licensed is wholly and exclusively for you when you paid it. This is because it means that you have the right to use the software legally along with its proof.

How much you paid?

As for refunding, Good luck.
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post Oct 25 2010, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 24 2010, 06:29 PM)
^ This.  thumbup.gif  By the way, all of them still need to be activated through the Internet. There's no such thing as offline activation unless you're on master OEM licenses. Heck, even Enterprise version need to connect to a (local/outside) KMS server to activate.
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I mean the ahem version. Last time i use it. That is how he said it is different when i argue that i can update the Ultimate "ahem" version while activating offline because i tell him like this:

1. no receipt
2. non original 1
3. No COA

if i pay him rm 150 for the professional version. What is the difference? He said the opportunity to activate online using his key and i have to activate offline when i am using the ahem version's key. doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(cycquest @ Oct 25 2010, 12:44 AM)
i see. even oem win7 home premium not cheap as that .probaly is fake or illegal or free gift set if luckily.
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If people got it for free, usually they all also try to profit from it.
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 25 2010, 12:32 PM)
okey...i'll be try....i buy it at pc shop...at least if they refused to return back my money,i can report to consumer tribunal... brows.gif
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If they refuse to refund, try to negotiate with them for discount by buying goods from them.

Sincerely, i advise you should prepare for the worst.

Since they give you the code without COA, they can simply deny the whole transaction has taken place.

Did you have a receipt for paying for it?
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 25 2010, 09:36 PM)
yup...they give my receipt....
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Good for you. Always try to negotiate for some other things other than software ( since they did not provide you the license meant for you to use) before going to the tribunal to pressure them if the situation goes hostile.

However, there is 1 question raised in my mind:

Did they actually explain to you that the key is wholly and exclusively for you to use or you just straight away buy just because it is cheap without fully understand the package offer?

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