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 COUNTERFEIT Windows 7 Retail BOX, How to know FAKE Windows 7 BOX

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post Oct 26 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 26 2010, 03:59 AM)
actually...yes....my friend hv recommend to me tht those pc shop invent da promotion 4 w7 pro oem....i already know tht w7 pro genuine worth rm450++,so i bought it without delay....yes...its my fault....should i survey first be4 buying.... doh.gif
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Do not survey for the lowest price.

REMEMBER MY ADVICE BELOW:

Software price will not dropped just because the time factor.

Before Windows Xp is taken off the shelf, the Retail Price is still about RM3XX despite the fact that it is already gonna celebrate its 1 decade anniversary next year.



QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Oct 26 2010, 10:10 AM)
this one me still blurry...mind to elaborate more in details?
what if i encounter this situation...i wanna grab 1 sealed Window 7 (since i can't differentiate from the silvery part COA) but of coz seller wouldn't allow me to c the disc inside (that particular thin foil sticker can b detected easily)
if i'm spending ~rm700 then get fake 1 really can't accept tat....  sweat.gif
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That piece of thing is the reason why you have to pay RM XXX for it.

If you snap the photo of it ( containing the serial), means the seller lose RM XXX indirectly. He can still sell though. But he is running the risk of getting into the trouble when the person who gets the key through the photo and the person who pays for it is blacklisted by Microsoft.

I am not saying that you would have this kind of intention, but you can see how "confidential" these things are.


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post Oct 26 2010, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 26 2010, 12:07 PM)
Actually, after a lot of times involving in software purchases, I can say that price drop depends on both time and popularity factor. If one product is new, but it's not popular (such as Windows Vista), you can see almost everyone (except those still in denial) sell them quite cheap. Windows XP still have high value since it's still popular and from time to time, it's getting harder to get them, thus increasing the price. Now, retail version of Windows XP, especially sealed boxed, can jump as high as USD$500 (or more).

There's nothing wrong with surveying for better price for anything, it's just that you need to first control your greed and think clearly. If in doubt, you can always ask around (including me tongue.gif ) before making any purchases.
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For me, it is a rare scene and i will really grab it if i come across such a promotion.

Microsoft is gonna stop Windows XP support within 3 years if not for 2 year's time, i am not gonna spend money on Windows XP already.

Surveying is a right of the consumer. But like i said, it is a rare scene to see cheap Windows software promotion for me.

When it comes to Microsoft Windows, i do not actually survey for a price because even if it is cheap, it would hardly be over than RM50 and with the time and risk involved, i think I'll pass about it.

On the contrary, Antivirus software really have to survey kaw kaw (cukup cukup).
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post Oct 27 2010, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 26 2010, 07:47 PM)
Ha, yes, that's true. But then again, it's all depends on the buyers observation skills too to make sure it's genuine + really good deal = FTW! tongue.gif Windows XP (SP3) will still have extended support until 2014, so perhaps that's why there are still many peoples flocking to get it. To me, I already move on and only buy those softwares for collection purposes only.

And I have to agree about antivirus suites. Now day there's lot of peoples selling keys only, and while the authority might not ask for any COA, it still poses risk to the buyer as they can be blacklisted anytime.
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Wow, you sure about it?

I buy 1 Trend Micro IS before, it only costs me Rm30 thumbup.gif and F secure IS for RM 39 only. Both for 3 users in 1 license key with CD.

Although they are 2008 version, but it can be used with the latest version. laugh.gif

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 26 2010, 08:13 PM)
Microsoft won't, they usually use their partner, the BSA (Business Software Alliance) to do the checking but mostly its for companies that is using pirated softwares. However, I heard that Singapore customs checks for genuine softwares. True or not, I don't know but it's better be safe now than later.
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That is what i am trying to say a month ago.

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Sep 17 2010, 06:29 PM)
The possible consequences is that microsoft will notify you if your copy of windows is not genuine. However, it is known that sometimes microsoft accidentally label Genuine copy as non Genuine. But, if u experience this multiple times, the chances are higher that it is non genuine copy of windows.

The last thing you ever want to happen to you is to only find out that the windows cd or dvd you bought is the fake ones through customs officers.
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BSA is for the business concern. However, it is essential to support the genuine software for a few reasons:

1. If you are traveling aboard, there is a risk that you may get into trouble because you do not want to spend RM XXX and pay fine in RM XXXXX, not to mention of the risk of being jailed.

Today i come across this article: http://msn.finance.com.my/index.php/rss/4421198

I don't think catching software piracy is their main concern, but it still pose as a risk as well.

2. Enjoy the latest software features and best protection ever. I don't like to spend time to clear my PC when it is being infected with virus, although genuine software does not eliminate this threat, but it greatly reduces it.

3. When you buy a laptop with a OEM windows license, the entire amount is entitled to tax relief subjected to RM 3000 limit and only available 3 years since the last claim for the PC purchase. If you buy it separately, i am not sure. I heard that the amount might increased to Rm 3500 next year, but i am not sure because i did not go through the budget 2011.

Therefore, always try to buy the genuine software if you are able to buy it.

This post has been edited by Quantum_thinking: Nov 1 2010, 09:30 AM
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post Nov 1 2010, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(aspirez @ Nov 1 2010, 09:16 PM)
my pc got windows 7 installed together with COA. so far no problem.
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Don't worry.

If it is pre installed OEM with COA on it, then it shouldn't be a pirated copy.

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post Nov 7 2010, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Nov 7 2010, 08:49 AM)
Is there like a windows only store like we can buy without fear of being cheated?
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You can buy from reputable shops such as The Hub in lowyat plaza.

You can also buy from person you TRUST.
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post Nov 7 2010, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Nov 7 2010, 10:56 PM)
thx for the info guys better be safe than sorry  thumbup.gif
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Yeah, it is a huge investment at the end of the day.
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post Nov 8 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Nov 8 2010, 12:20 AM)
to go through all these hassle now i understand why some would resort to the ehem ehem version  brows.gif
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Well, it is not the main reason though.

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post Nov 10 2010, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Nov 8 2010, 02:40 AM)
yeah there are alot of other factors that needs to be accounted for but some may find this one of the turn off to go for ori especially after you paid quite a sum only to discover you have been cheated  sweat.gif
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Yeah. But i think that is only X% among the ahem users if not for .XX%.

I wonder if Microsoft would compensate the people being cheated if they buy it as same as the market price?
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 10 2010, 11:52 AM)
If those users can prove that they're being sold counterfeit, complete with seller name and address of the shop etc, then Microsoft will provide them with an original copy of the OS.
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Have anyone managed to get such a compensation?

Do you mean the sales person's name?
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 11 2010, 09:26 AM)
Never heard for Windows 7, but there's cases for Windows XP. Usually Microsoft will need the location of the shop and if possible the sales person's name so they can do raid. When raid is complete and it's proven that the shop are selling counterfeit, then you'll be awarded the Get Genuine Kit to replace your current counterfeit installation.
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shop location is ok. But any reason we could use to get the sales person's name?

Usually the most we could get is alias only if we do not meet them for a brief period.
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post Nov 11 2010, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 11 2010, 11:56 AM)
Really? Where's your source? I'm interested in reading it smile.gif
Thanks smile.gif

The blog is in reconstruction, meanwhile, you can follow my Facebook too smile.gif
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Me too. Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(trinityz @ Nov 11 2010, 04:25 PM)
we're distributor for IT products and we liaise closely with microsoft representative on software distribution. source good enough for you?
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Sounds good. But how can we verify your story?
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QUOTE(trinityz @ Nov 11 2010, 05:14 PM)
here are the dealers that was caught with software piracy this month.
https://partner.microsoft.com/Malaysia/licensing/40038488

serve as reminder to all dealers who is reading this, do not sell pirated softwares.
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Nice tip. I will spread this out.
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post Dec 4 2010, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(-i7- @ Dec 4 2010, 12:46 PM)
yup.. hope all the seller will ensure customer get the original product.
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Otherwise, there would be embarrassing consequences. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aboi_md @ Dec 6 2010, 01:36 PM)
hi...can i know how much the price of window7 home premium 32bit?
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OEM 32 bit sell for about RM 280
OEM 64 bits sell for about RM 290
Retail version sell for RM 369 like that. including both DVD.
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Dec 8 2010, 02:21 AM)
owh...i survey at pc shops at kelantan n what i get:

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM= RM390 while retail RM450....

WTH!!!!! mad.gif  mad.gif
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It is business. If they do not cheat you with counterfeit windows while promising you genuine Windows, there is nothing illegal about it.

The bottomline is that for the OEM must check for the COA. For the retails ones, always bring a piece of the DVD to prove that you pay for it.
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QUOTE(n305er @ Dec 29 2010, 10:00 AM)
This one looks suspicious...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1694665

Almost like the fake windows7 pictures in the first page except it's windows 7 Ultimate.
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Ingram Micro is a reputable supplier in Malaysia. It might be possible that the package might be RM50 cheaper than market price or more, depending how many units the seller buys as well.

My advice is that request for receipt when purchase and ask him about his details like the shop location and etc.

Anything can PM me.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Dec 29 2010, 11:50 AM)
I just put a reminder at that thread so people will be cautious about buying one.


Added on December 29, 2010, 11:57 am
Ingram Micro also is a reputable supplier in Singapore. The problem is... Take a look at the COA. Why would Ingram Micro (Malaysia) import so-called US version? Malaysia geo-lock version is much more cheaper than the International, no geo-lock version.

Plus there's no such thing as Made in USA as I dispute a while ago, only Made in Singapore for Asia region, and Made in Puerto Rico for the rest of the world that I know of. One member here claims that there is Made in USA version (and also claim he is a Microsoft staff), but when I ask him for proof, he just gone. No answers etc.
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Make sense as well. It remind me the fact that the windows over here can be activate in the SEA only.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 08:44 AM)
This is clearly the counterfeit one. Have you tried asking her where is her office? Perhaps I might come and get one for reference purpose of course! blush.gif
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Wow, so "kind" of you to buy such an expensive goods for reference purposes.
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jan 6 2011, 10:24 AM)
Mostly retail packaging Windows Original are made in Puerto Rico..
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I am using a retail packaging of Windows 7 Home Premium MADE in Singapore. Why would Microsoft want to spend money to ship the Puerto Rico stocks here instead getting them from Singapore?

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 10:27 AM)
If it's not that "expensive", I will. I'm fascinated with those piraters that we able to copy almost 90% as same as original. Would keep one on my cabinet laugh.gif
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Even you have to let them make "profit"?

QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 6 2011, 05:52 PM)
Even if the microsoft product is original you still need to get it from VALID source.

According to Microsoft's License agreement, the license you get must be from valid microsoft reseller channel and can trace it back to microsoft. Or else it is still considered invalid. For eg, buying stolen original product.
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How buyers can check if the license they purchase is from a VAILD source?


Added on January 6, 2011, 7:41 pm
QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 07:34 PM)
If there's any pack opened, you can try to see if the "holographic" part of the disc can be peeled or not.
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When my father's friend accidentally bought a Nokia phone, the X6 model is not "manufactured" properly. Means you can see that it is not "sealed" or broken signs.

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