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Investment BUKIT JALIL CITY | AURORA PLACE | REV.O, Another megaproject starting very soon

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post Jul 8 2012, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(realcyma @ Jul 8 2012, 04:38 PM)
size is only one factor.  most important is the Mall Management. 
whether it can success or not, wait to see.

I also hope it can make.
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IMO, the factors which determind the success of a Mall are
1. Mkt catchment
2. Property Management Quality
3. Size of the mall
4. Anchor tenant / tenant mix
5. Accessibility
6. Location
7. Layout and structure of the mall

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jul 8 2012, 04:55 PM)
Biggest shopping mall in the world. Malaysia got 3 places in top 10. I am proud to be malaysian ......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_w..._shopping_malls
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If not mistaken, the list is outdated already yo. None of Malaysia mall in the Top 10

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post Jul 9 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Jul 9 2012, 10:50 AM)
dont get influence by hot topics ... can be good and bad .

analyse sensibly . no hurry . keep cool and calm .

on paper and reports seems all positive .

lets see . hope a doable project  rclxm9.gif
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I hv never followed up any project longer than this one, many of us hv been here since 2006, it is not a hot topic as claimed by you, those who stay in Bkt Jalil understand wat I say, many hv left to invest in other areas (including me), this project is my top 3 picks since 2009, if Ho Hup is incharge of the entire project, my answer is a big NO NO. It a shame that the court case dragged too long, I miss this time.

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post Jul 9 2012, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(natman @ Jul 9 2012, 02:37 PM)
Any idea on the pricing yet for servise apartment?
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Ho Hup has an indication to price it +- 550/sf, but heard that Malton may price theirs at least 700/sf
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post Nov 17 2012, 02:57 PM

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Most potential commercial area in KL South now.
Only 4 & 5 storey can consider. Hidden Gem
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post Dec 26 2012, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Dec 26 2012, 02:05 PM)
frankly i do not see any proper value in this project ! Full of uncertainty ! No ?
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Almost every commercial project are full of uncertainty, it is a matter the level of risk appetite one can take. It is a high risk high return game. However if you ask me, by looking at the location, selling price and concept, I must say this is the best commercial bet at this moment now.
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post Jan 23 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Dec 26 2012, 02:05 PM)
frankly i do not see any proper value in this project ! Full of uncertainty ! No ?
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Buy subsale, it is full of certainty
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post May 12 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ May 11 2013, 11:31 PM)
Looks like another good news for BJ residence. Soon this area will be a new shopping hub and happening with WCT Mall + Pavillion 2.
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Both Pavillion BJ & PARADIGM OUG has same targeted rival -- MID VALLEY
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post May 14 2013, 02:52 AM

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Pavillion will success in BJ. Paradigm I dunno
Do remember the land size is 60 acres, larger than the entire MV.
Dun under estimate the spending power of BJ, Sri Petaling & Puchong folks

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post May 14 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 14 2013, 08:33 AM)
wow!....

suddenly location location location is not relevant any more? rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

this area don't even have connect walking distance LRT la. Good luck to him sweat.gif

ambitions become part of " property dictionary check list now"
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IMO, Location, Location, Location only applied in developed countries, In Malaysia context, whether an undeveloped area will be "Wong" or not will depends on
1) Developer
2) High % of Chinese population
3) Location

IMO, DPC, Setia Alam, Kota Damansara, Bandar Utama, Mutiara Damansara, Puchong etc are not prime location back 10-20 yrs ago.

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post May 14 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 14 2013, 10:24 AM)
I thought in the Ho Hup master plan they will be building flyover type of inter-connect into the Jalil City centre. Two of them. One is connecting the sg besi/bukit jalil highway and another into the Kesas.

Could someone throw lights on this ?

If they do nothing to the road, then yes, Jalil City will be a failure.
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Two diamond interchange hv been proposed, Sirim and Sri Rakyat flat, I am very sure the Sirim one will be approved, land has been allocated for the interchange, back 10 yrs ago, Gomen has asked 3 parties to share the cost of the interchange, Ho Hup, Talam, TPM. 1/3 each, the case close after HH and Talam in deep shxx

Road fr Puchong to ASTRO will be widen to 3 lanes / 3 lanes
I remember I travelled fr PJ to Kepong (passed through 1U) in 1995/1996, I really doubt how 1U can be "Wong" becoz that is the dead end, going Kepong is all muddy roads, the situation of 1U in 1995 is worse than BJ now

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 14 2013, 11:38 AM)
OK. Thanks.

But now Talam is history. TPM maybe tidak apa. So the biggest interest party is Ho Hup/Malton.

So this baby maybe hard to deliver.
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Malton will bear the cost.
If you look at the overall GDV of 4 billion, it is just peanuts to Malton, a small project like The Zest also can build a flyover bridge, sup sup water for Jalil City lah

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ May 14 2013, 12:44 PM)
whether BJ can make it, personally i think it can but nothing is guarantee, but one thing i'm sure that you're not really understand in BJ, there have 4 highway to access BJ; MEX, Kesas, seremban highway and also Puchong-BJ which have been reserved to widen into 3 lane, go have a look if you don't believe it, there have enough space in the middle of the road and also roadside which have been planned since late 90s.
you also don't understand the income level and spending power from the residence of bukit jalil, seri petaling and also bandar kinrara, i don't think their spending power can't match sunway, subang, pj and damansara, that's totally wrong.
please go survey again and come back with realistic comment and information.
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I believe > 50% of Sunway and Mid Valley sales are contributed by the people who stay in southern part of KV (south of Federal Highway), BJ, Puchong, Putra Permai, OUG & Sri Petaling folks do shop a lot in these 2 mega malls, they hv no choice.
Once Paradigm and Pavillion are up, for convenience sake, I believe at least 50% of these shoppers will divert their choice.
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Another Hot Spots!

Since 2005, the master plan has been changed at least 3 times, interchange has been proposed for every new plan, Ho Hup even make a model interchange in the sales office (I saw it in 2005), is a 3 layers of diamond interchange.
Malton will definitely fund the construction as it needs to draw the huge crowd fr Putra Permai / Equine / Cyberjaya.

Apart fr Ho Hup 60 acres of land, there are 5 more plots of lands in vicinity (pending for development), Ho Chin Soon did mention during 2009 that one of the 3 best golden land in KV now was the stretch fr Bdr Kinrara - TPM (left and right).

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post May 15 2013, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ May 15 2013, 12:27 PM)
There should be a diamond interchange at sirim. And a road directly connect next to the Ho hup project to bj highway. Rumour has it that an elevated road along jalil sutera n SEri jalil linking this jalil city to kesas. The existing  1/155 will be widen to 3 lines from Oug till church.

No office? No commercial at bj? Ya is true, but optimistic ppl see it as opportunity, pessimistic ppl see it as setback. Mid valley started from empty land without any commercial or offices next to it. It created all the commercial n offices by itself n make the mall sustainable.
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Yes true, I remembered I drove by Mid Valley (empty land) every day in 1995, the area is a steel dumpig site, a valley which many has no idea about it, the response wasn't that good when IGB started the construction, many claimed that the location was bad as there are no direct access fr Federal highway (Fr KL), it won't do well because it might face strong challenge fr KLCC, 1 Utama and Sunway.
When MV starts operation, massive complaint fr shoppers as the access fr Thien Hou Temple is terrible, indeed we predicted it will be a failure project.
Too early to judge Jalil City (will fail)

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QUOTE(why.key @ May 16 2013, 07:51 PM)
not to forget there is a empty 100 acres land located at bandar kinrara TUDM which i believe is residential development.

which such a huge population in these area, i doubt it will fail.

Najib say 2020, we are high income country. Sure win !!!

p/s : if fail then blame najib  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jun 30 2013, 07:37 PM)
Latest news for one jalil.

http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/prope...in-bukit-jalil/

http://www.bursacommunity.com/t14334-ho-hu...pn17-upliftment
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Fr the initial plan of 1 mil sf ft to 2 mil sf, we can see Malton is trying 200% to push to the limit, at the same time, for sure the survey team has responded to their boss on the future potential of this area, the buying power and population are the 2 main factors needed to be considered. Without a "confirmed facts" in hand, developer won't simply dump so much money to build a huge mall like this. Mid Valley sales will definitely be affected (but still Wong for sure)
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QUOTE(12Digit @ Jun 30 2013, 11:21 PM)
Don't still have to wait until when only can see malton project at Bukit Jalil. I think for sure start from 750psf up.
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Malton has indicated a selling price of 900/sf

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Malton is expected to price their 5-storey shoplot for 6-7 mil.
Can buy strata grd & 1st floor (2 floors) only
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 3 2013, 07:55 AM)
And so what's the ballpark figure for strata grd & 1st floor only ?

5 storey, presumably will have lift then ?
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Got lift
Ho Hup remaining shoplots all sapu bersih over night
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QUOTE(RevoWithin @ Aug 3 2013, 10:47 AM)
any info on residential project?
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Ho Hup Sofo Oct 2013, 700/sf
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