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 Studying in the UK V3

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limeuu
post Jul 1 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Jul 1 2014, 11:50 AM)
Trying to get the best possible lower cost and normal lifestyle living, no partying that sort of life. If possible, I would like to work part time whenever schedule allows me. As to where the intended place to practice law very much depends on securing a contract and visa approval ? Thanks.
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it is not easy to compare cost of locations...there are many variables, even within the same city, different suburbs will cost different.....liverpool and leeds are generally considered 'cheap' cities.....

try this: http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/comparison.jsp
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post Jul 22 2014, 04:20 PM

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Good grief! Advertising for 'experience based qualification' in this UK thread?!
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post Jul 28 2014, 07:34 PM

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heavy objects, don't bother bringing, you have limited luggage allowance...

most electronics are cheap....just go look at argos....and asda is usually the cheapest of the big 4 supermarket chains...
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post Jul 29 2014, 10:56 PM

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bring your bolsters.....cannot find in uk.....pack it properly in plastic and check it in..... lol
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post Aug 4 2014, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(azzaim92 @ Aug 4 2014, 12:05 PM)
UK wallplugs are the same as Malaysia,
technically....msia plugs are the same as uk....

we as ex-colonies actually followed the uk system... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 13 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(crazycyp @ Aug 12 2014, 11:34 PM)
Hi all, I have a lot of questions to asked even after reading the previous post I'm still not clear on many things on the money side

Anyone can can help me out on this scenario ?

1. I was about to start my uni life in UK on next month and i was kinds of worries about the money issue like e.g. question : bank draft is that was a local banker cheque or refer to traveler cheque (unclear) ?

2. The money that i slot into for this cheque purpose is for open a bank account in UK later.

Hope that those who have experience can reply to my questions.. Thanks!
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you can help be improving your english and be more clear what you are asking.....
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post Aug 15 2014, 07:33 AM

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Trains will be fastest and easily accommodate all luggages but expensive unless you book in advance....

Buses are cheaper, they can take big bags in the hold, but may restrict the number of pieces...

The best solution is to rent a car and drive....but your mum probably will not be able to cope....
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post Aug 15 2014, 08:28 AM

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They are not sticky with the weights.....and the 3 of you will have 60kg....
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post Aug 16 2014, 02:35 PM

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Don't bother with minor mistakes....they don't really care....unless of course you put UK instead of Msia....
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post Aug 16 2014, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(EdwinCodec @ Aug 16 2014, 04:18 PM)
I thought you're supposed to specify in terms of State for place of birth?
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They are only interested in the country....states within a country is of no relevance to them.....
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post Aug 17 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 12:51 AM)
Visa personnel at TB clinic.
there are no 'visa personnel' at a 'tb clinic'....what exactly do you mean?....

minor details like that is not important.....but applying for the 'wrong' category of visa obvious will be a problem.....
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post Aug 17 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 01:13 PM)
There's a person at the ground floor of the tb clinic who you have to fill up your form and show your passport and CAS letter to, along with explaining the visa guidelines. I went to the clinic in Bangsar. So technically, she was in charge of prelim visa+tb info and was supposed to help with filling up of forms, and so she is called a visa personnel. Semantics. wink.gif
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this is not semantics....you are going to do postgraduate studies, you will need to be precise and clear in what you communicate...especially when giving advises to other people.....

there is no 'tb clinic', but a panel clinic approved by the uk high commission for the purpose of medical examinations...there is no 'visa personnel', which implies the high commission or their approved agent have placed one of their officers there.....but a registration clerk....and his/her duty is to make sure the process is complied with....the reason for this detail is to ensure the RIGHT student gets the RIGHT test, and the RIGHT result is given to the visa office.....so there is no mistake.....or fraud....


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post Aug 17 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 02:18 PM)
In no way does the definition of 'personnel' indicate that this person has to be employed by a specific organization in order to execute a corresponding function. My dealings with her only involve procedural matters related to my visa, and that's why I call her a visa personnel. I did not label her a VFS personnel or a High Embassy personnel.

Besides, I don't think a menial semantical issue is in anyway important.
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a 'visa personnel' exactly implies that.....a person involved with the direct processing of the visa...

this is not visa processing, but a medical examination, which is a requirement of the visa application process....

similarly, you may need a bank officer's letter for evidence of funding, another requirement of the visa.....you will not call the bank officer a 'visa personnel' would you?.....
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post Aug 17 2014, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 02:32 PM)
The visa personnel deals specifically with visa registration procedures. She is directly affiliated with the process, and I know of no other function of hers. The bank officer, as the name implies, has a multitude of functions generally known to the public. He is not specifically designated to deal with visa issues.

A personnel simply means someone who was employed to do a certain undertaking. It is not interchangeable with employee.
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this reception clerk at the clinic has also similarly, as the name implies, a multitude of functions in the clinic....she is not only dealing with british visa process....the same clinic may have australian visa medical examinations as well, and she will also deal the registrations of other normal patients.....

she is an employee of the clinic, and i can assure you NO clinic is going to employ a reception clerk purely for medical examination for students going to the uk, the process of which only takes place 2 months in a year.....

unless you are now saying she is the employee of vfs, specifically stationed at the clinic to assist in this medical examination.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 17 2014, 02:51 PM
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post Aug 17 2014, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 02:54 PM)
Two points:

1. You assume that only students apply for tier 3 and tier 4 visas.
2. An employee of the clinic implies a contractual relationship, therefore a legal identity binding her to a certain organization. Whether she has any other function with the hospital remains also an assumption. I do not know whether she is employed by the hospital, the government or the embassy or the visa office.

I reiterate that the only dealings I have had with her, and are known explicitly to me (or even other applicants) are pertaining to visa procedures. This fact cannot be disputed. Therefore, she is called a visa personnel simply because her job scope, evident to me deals with visa procedures. It has no legal implication like 'employee'.
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since you do not know her exact status, you therefore cannot call her 'visa personnel', and but a worker who helped you with the registration process for the purpose of a medical examination in a clinic.....

a 'visa personnel' would imply that she has no other function in the clinic except dealing with visa medicals only....

i can tell you for a fact that neither vfs nor the high commission station any officers at any clinics in msia for this purpose.....

i can also tell you for a fact that no clinic will employ a staff purely for this purpose only.....

clarity of description is very important, as no doubt you will find out when you start writing reports and thesis in oxford.....
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post Aug 17 2014, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 03:20 PM)
I've published, thank you. Definitions are very important in research.

A personnel is someone involved in an organized undertaking. No part of it's definition limits one's occupation to one function or organizational loyalty (unlike employee). My relationship with her is defined by our visa dealings, therefore, I have every reason to refer to her as a visa personnel in my personal capacity. In my relationship with her, her function does not exceed visa dealings. The word personnel doesn't grant her a specialist status or imply a legal bond with a company.

For example, a volunteer in a soup kitchen can be called a soup kitchen personnel. This might not be her full time job, she might not even be paid, she might actually be here to clean up rubbish. But she is involved in the soup kitchen activity, therefore she can be referred to as a soup kitchen personnel. The core of your argument mostly relates to your subjective perception of the word 'personnel'.

I personally don't understand why are you arguing over menial semantics in such a condescending way. How does this even contribute to the visa discussion, especially when most of us here actually understand what I mean? Why not just google for examples (or even definitions for crying out loud).
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It has nothing to do with personnel, but visa...

Indeed, someone working in a soup kitchen is a soup kitchen personnel....

Just as someone working in a clinic is a clinic personnel...

You are not at the clinic to get a visa....

The reason is to point out wrong information and advises given in this forum.....

Lest people start looking for the 'visa personnel' at a 'tb clinic'....

It would have been so much simpler if you just say 'my bad' and move on....
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post Aug 17 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 03:47 PM)
Uh, it's not my bad. She is involved in the visa form filling and process. How is 'personnel' limited by physical spaces? It applies to mobile jobs as well ( a volunteer patrolling a residential area is called a safety or security personnel. He does not have to work at a police station).

Noone misunderstood me by far, except you. My information is correct.
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it is NOT a misunderstanding....

i am telling you you are using wrong terminologies....

yes, this is a minor point, but nevertheless, is important that people who wants to give advises be sure of their facts before they do.....

i didn't want to bring this up, but since i am forced to make a point, some wrong information can be major, eg this one about notts msia pharmacy programme allowing students to "exchange for one year and still be charged local tuition fees only.".... https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3319632
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post Aug 17 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 05:52 PM)
Dude, I said some programmes, my sentence did not say notts offers an exchange for mpharm. You need to learn how to read.
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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 12:54 AM)
Nope! But I did my degree at a foreign IPTS though. Many of my friends take the BPharm and Mpharm programme.

You can choose to study at institutions like Notts and Monash. They will allow you to go for an exchange for one year and still be charged local tuition fees only.
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post Aug 17 2014, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(bellobanana95 @ Aug 13 2014, 11:04 PM)
Hi peeps, I got an offer from an oversea university and a local university (UM) at the same time. Both offered me my preferred course, Pharmacy.

I am really in a deep dilemma.
Deep inside I really hope I could study abroad as I know there will be lots of challenges await me.
QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 12:13 AM)
Do well in your local pharm programme, get good results and apply for masters overseas (Mpharm). You need to complete 4 years of studying if you were to opt for an overseas programme (3yrs degree +Mpharm) because for some reason that's the only way you are allowed to practice here in Malaysia. 4 years of overseas fee is really exorbitant and there are more scholarships available for postgrad study.

So do well and apply for a scholarship to do your postgrad abroad. That's what I did.
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QUOTE(bellobanana95 @ Aug 17 2014, 12:27 AM)
Heyy, you're taking MPharm as well? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Cottoncandyclouds @ Aug 17 2014, 12:54 AM)
Nope! But I did my degree at a foreign IPTS though. Many of my friends take the BPharm and Mpharm programme.

You can choose to study at institutions like Notts and Monash. They will allow you to go for an exchange for one year and still be charged local tuition fees only.
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post Aug 17 2014, 06:22 PM

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i foresee some problems in oxford....

the fact remains there is NO 'visa personnel' in a clinic.....and there is no such thing as a 'tb clinic'.....

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