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 Asus A | U | N series combined thread V2, New model coming in.....

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dante10
post Oct 13 2010, 04:18 AM

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i can no longer able to access recovery partition by pressing f9@ f10 during boot...how can i fix this?its my notebook, asus a42jv...i want to reiinstall my OS7 by using the recovery partition

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post Oct 13 2010, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Oct 13 2010, 03:39 AM)
sometimes only 10 fps difference. i'm not so sure. coz was concentrating in the game.
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well, not that ur eyes can really tell... laugh.gif anything more than 30 is already good enuf...
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post Oct 13 2010, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Oct 13 2010, 03:19 AM)
my gf's a42ja plays sc2 smoothly at about 60 fps in high settings (battle) while mine is at about 40.. i think 5730 is slightly better than GT335m performance wise
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well, the a42ja processor is same? coz i heard SC2 depend on processor more than gfx card...
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 13 2010, 08:45 AM)
well, the a42ja processor is same? coz i heard SC2 depend on processor more than gfx card...
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A42Ja use 740QM...

however SC2 is optimized for dual core... so more core means nothing...
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 13 2010, 08:46 AM)
A42Ja use 740QM...

however SC2 is optimized for dual core... so more core means nothing...
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oh you're so wrong....

You think when running SC2, only SC2 is running?

Since SC2 is optimized for dual core, the other core is used for OS and system process while
the remaining 2 core can be optimumly used by SC2.... icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 13 2010, 09:47 AM

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If you mean it like that, then the i7 would only run at 1.7GHz sweat.gif
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post Oct 13 2010, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:47 AM)
If you mean it like that, then the i7 would only run at 1.7GHz sweat.gif
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i7 740QM if run at 4 cores, it would run in 1.7GHz
only at 2 cores, it would turbo boost...

If by your definition, 2 cores for SC2, others for other resources, means it need to run at 4 cores, then it can't turbo boost, hence running SC2 in 1.7GHz?
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:50 AM)
i7 740QM if run at 4 cores, it would run in 1.7GHz
only at 2 cores, it would turbo boost...

If by your definition, 2 cores for SC2, others for other resources, means it need to run at 4 cores, then it can't turbo boost, hence running SC2 in 1.7GHz?
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well, can you confirm that SC2 running, only 2 core active? hmm.gif

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post Oct 13 2010, 09:59 AM

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Nah, no way, it should go back and forth from 1-2-4 cores in split of seconds..
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:59 AM)
Nah, no way, it should go back and forth from 1-2-4 cores in split of seconds..
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then the frequency keep on changing? lol... i dun think so gua... later the system goes haywire... tongue.gif
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Well, the turboboost should kick in depending on loads/thread, which means frequency keep changing...

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:22 AM)
Well, the turboboost should kick in depending on loads/thread, which means frequency keep changing...
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agreed... but i would say the frequency change is not really split second... probably, it'll wait a while
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:32 AM)
agreed... but i would say the frequency change is not really split second... probably, it'll wait a while
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the wait awhile for CPU is split second for human...

dun forget CPU count time in nanosecond...
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 13 2010, 11:02 AM)
the wait awhile for CPU is split second for human...

dun forget CPU count time in nanosecond...
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lol.. probably you're right.... but anyway, I didn't update myself with Turbo Boost thingy.. so I'm not sure
exactly 100% how it'll work. Last time when I work in Intel, I'm part of verification team to verify Turbo
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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Oct 13 2010, 03:19 AM)
my gf's a42ja plays sc2 smoothly at about 60 fps in high settings (battle) while mine is at about 40.. i think 5730 is slightly better than GT335m performance wise
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im using a42ja, after a lot of research..yes 5730 slightly better plus the dx11 feature(maybe not so appealing but still..)..5730 just a higher clock version of 5650..the 2gb vram really helps a lot when i plug out the display into 24" dell ultrasharp... flex.gif
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post Oct 13 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:50 AM)
i7 740QM if run at 4 cores, it would run in 1.7GHz
only at 2 cores, it would turbo boost...

If by your definition, 2 cores for SC2, others for other resources, means it need to run at 4 cores, then it can't turbo boost, hence running SC2 in 1.7GHz?
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The calculation should be like this:-
Core i7-740QM
- Turbo 1/1/6/9
- First number is the multiple of 133.33 MHz supported when four cores are active, the second number is the multiple for three cores, the third number is for two cores, and the fourth number is for one active core.
- Normal operating frequency is 1.73 GHz = 1730 MHz
* With 3 or 4 cores active: to 1.863 GHz —————> 1730 + 1 x 133.33 = 1730 + 133.33 ≃ 1863.33
* With 2 cores active: to 2.529 GHz ———————> 1730 + 6 x 133.33 = 1730 + 799.98 ≃ 2529.98
* With only 1 core active: to 2.929 GHz —————–> 1730 + 9 x 133.33 = 1730 + 1199.97 ≃ 2929.97

* When 4 cores active, the frequency is low (1.863 GHz) but remember it running 4 cores. 1.863 GHz 1 core vs 1.863 GHz 4 cores; the later performed much much better.

Quote from Intel website:-
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What is Intel® Turbo Boost Technology and how does it work?
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology is a way to automatically run the processor core faster than the marked frequency if the part is operating under power, temperature, and current specifications limits of the Thermal Design Power (TDP). This results in increased performance of both single and multi-threaded applications.


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QUOTE(kizwan @ Oct 13 2010, 12:52 PM)
The calculation should be like this:-
Core i7-740QM
- Turbo 1/1/6/9
- First number is the multiple of 133.33 MHz supported when four cores are active, the second number is the multiple for three cores, the third number is for two cores, and the fourth number is for one active core.
- Normal operating frequency is 1.73 GHz = 1730 MHz
    * With 3 or 4 cores active: to 1.863 GHz —————> 1730 + 1 x 133.33 = 1730 + 133.33 ≃ 1863.33
    * With 2 cores active: to 2.529 GHz ———————> 1730 + 6 x 133.33 = 1730 + 799.98 ≃ 2529.98
    * With only 1 core active: to 2.929 GHz —————–> 1730 + 9 x 133.33 = 1730 + 1199.97 ≃ 2929.97

* When 4 cores active, the frequency is low (1.863 GHz) but remember it running 4 cores. 1.863 GHz 1 core vs 1.863 GHz 4 cores; the later performed much much better.

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if the software/game is written so perfect to use 2 core, then effectively the frequency double...

meaning, at 1.73ghz dual core x 2= 3.4GHz (effective)
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 13 2010, 01:45 PM)
if the software/game is written so perfect to use 2 core, then effectively the frequency double...

meaning, at 1.73ghz dual core x 2= 3.4GHz (effective)
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No. Running on 2 cores will not double the processor frequency. The advantage of 2 cores vs 1 core is 2 cores can process two task simultaneously compared to 1 core which only can process 1 task at one time. It doesn't double the processor frequency.

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oky thx. will do when got back from campus. smile.gif

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