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post Sep 14 2010, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(gtrowa2003 @ Sep 14 2010, 12:29 AM)
next week release, RRP. RM1599

will open for booking this few day ^^
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wow...that's nice to hear that.

will it be available at all the CSL outlets ? any official launch date for CSL's tablet ?

i want to test out this unit..

thanks !
vince
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post Sep 14 2010, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(matthewtankh @ Sep 14 2010, 01:52 PM)
where to buy the archos? available in malaysia?
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don't have locally in Malaysia. I will bring in 1 unit of 70 250gb HDD version to test out. If good, then i will bring in a few units of HDD and Flash 8gb to sell.

If you are interested, do let me know and PM me.

Once the unit is avail, I will PM you and let you know..

Which one you want ?

8GB Flash ? 250 GB HDD ?

Models and specs : www.archos.com

Then you can let me know once you have decided which unit you want.

RGDS
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post Sep 14 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(olly @ Sep 14 2010, 02:59 PM)
CES 2010 in KLCC??? where you get the news. cause 2011 CES in january
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Hmm..I might got it mixed up, i suppose..


Thanks for bringing it up...

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post Sep 19 2010, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Sep 19 2010, 04:26 PM)
Just come back from lowyat. Many promote this device. But few comment.

Mapking only 1 year. After need to pay.
Too thick.
Touch Screen not so responsive.
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Currently being promoted in Lowyat only ?

Any places in PJ or Sect 14..that I can go and have a look.

Price is rm 1599 ?

Do you have the full confirmed specs ?

MI700 - screen is capacitive or resistive ?


Hmm..I have to check out myself...


Guys, stay put..I will update you once I have tried myself...

Same time, I will update you when my other 2.2 Froyo tablet arrives in Malaysia...then will put up in this tread..

So, keep it alive and well..

Cheeers !
Vince
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post Sep 22 2010, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Sep 22 2010, 10:09 AM)
erm,still not confidence for CSL product.tongue.gif
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How come ? Have you used their products before ?

I have not tried CSL brand, so I won't know.

Maybe you can share your story with us here ? As we are interested to find out about your experiences with CSL.

Cheers !
Vince
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post Sep 23 2010, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Sep 22 2010, 10:04 PM)
how can u not know adam...

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hehehe....only know Eve mah...


By the way, Adam's tablet looks promising but i think won't be able to see it this year..perhaps maybe very end of Dec or even 1st Quarter next year..

Price won't be that cheap if it comes with the Pixel Qi screen.

for those who want to wait : next year - Asus, MSI - coming...both 10 inch tablets.


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post Sep 27 2010, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(fanatic_79 @ Sep 27 2010, 12:24 PM)
in giant batu caves, there is a dealer...dont know whether its CSL or its franchise,  selling at rm2699...
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Selling what ? CSL tablet ? RM 2699 ?? shocking.gif

Or selling 2 units at RM 2699 ??

Or Galaxy Tab ?

For SGT...i think price is too high.


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post Sep 27 2010, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(fanatic_79 @ Sep 27 2010, 09:00 PM)
only one bro.. i only afford to look and laugh at the dealer...


Added on September 27, 2010, 9:01 pm

only one bro.. i only afford to look and laugh at the dealer...hope ppl that interested will check first before buying.
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oh...i see, bro...

maybe wrongly put the price lah....too kang cheong to sell...accidentally press "2" instead of "1"...

hahaha



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post Sep 30 2010, 05:15 PM

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Have not have a chanc to test the unit myself yet.

If have to go to Lowyat..too far for me. I'm in Damansara..

I think Sunway Pyramid have an outlet of CSL.


Anybody knows whether the MI700 is available in Pyramid ??


Then I can try to go there and check out the unit myself..

"from the outer look, the unit looked a bit thick".....guess have to try out myself first...

cheers !
vince
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post Sep 30 2010, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(raoul @ Sep 30 2010, 06:02 PM)
I have tested it and confirmed can't play facebook games or support any flash webbrowsing as it does not support Flash 10.1.

Furthermore the Flash can't be installed due to chipset limitation.
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Wow...then its a BIG letdown..


Any other limitation you found after tinkering with the unit ?


Tks for the info.. thumbup.gif

Vince


Added on September 30, 2010, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(mydear @ Sep 30 2010, 07:02 PM)
too bad no used for it cant support flash 10.1 i need to cancel my order wait for samsung will come out on next month
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SGT is a good unit...only price is not too good...i think will be over 2k.

Not sure you have to subscribe to any data plan or not or have to buy from Maxis or Digi with "package"..as the unit comes with 3G.



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post Sep 30 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(mydear @ Sep 30 2010, 07:26 PM)
pdate 2: Just saw FreshGear’s write up on the Mi700. Nothing extensive, but they gave better photos of the device. Go check it out here at: http://freshgear.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/...powered-tablet/. Again, I am a bit skeptical with what they write since they are a gadget shop dealer. So, go there for the pics only (I am so bad tongue.gif )

Update: Steve Paine (Chippy of UMPC Portal and Carrypad) explained via e-mail that “I recognise it as the Camangi FM600 / Viewpad 7 and I think there’s an Indian version too.” No wonder it looked familiar. CSL rebranded the same device made else where. Anyway, the specs for the Camangi and Viewpad can be retrieved here: http://www.umpcportal.com/products/Camangi/FM600/ and http://www.umpcportal.com/products/Viewsonic/Viewpad%207/.

Check the actual product page from here.

CSL is a local Malaysian company who has in recent days garnered some headlines when it supported Fusion Garage’s controversy-laden JooJoo tablet early this year and later with its entry into cheap Android devices. Early this month, it announced its entry into the Android tablet, with its own version, called DroidPad. No, it has nothing to do with Motorola (and it shows). I took the opportunity this evening to visit one of the sales outlet which had a fully functioning demo unit of the product that is being sold for RM1,599 (no discount, at least from their retail outlet). That would be approximately USD500.

Just for your information, this is not a detailed review, since I only managed to spend 30 minutes in the outlet before feeling a bit uneasy, not giving the sales person a definite yes or no, in purchasing it. Nevertheless, thanks go to the outlet for giving me free rein on the DroidPad, to test everything that came to mind (I missed a few critical ones, as I will point out below).

Hardware:

This is a compact tablet at 7 inch (same as the Samsung Tab). It can definitely be held with one hand, although do not expect that hand to hold it for too long since it weighs half a kg. The size of the device makes it seem less bulky than it really is. The build itself feels solid, since it is lined with metal (aluminium? or a knock off material? I couldn’t tell). It feels sturdy enough that I am confident it won’t break after a fall. However, this is not a beauty to behold. It really does look ‘fat’, at half an inch (see picture compared to a 20cent coin). The unit was still wrapped in a thin plastic wrap (cheap way to prevent scratches I guess). I did not take note of the speakers, although I believe they are located at the sides.

Display:

The resolution is only at 800 by 480 (WVGA). The colours seem washed and not as vibrant as it should have been. This is one of the downsides of the DroidPad since they needed to cut cost from somewhere. However, the viewing angles were not that bad. You could still make out the images even at 30-45 degrees. Nevertheless, the display is of the capacitive variant (yay!) and I have to admit that it feels quite sensitive to the touch. Typing was a breeze and with ample room, I was typing away fairly quickly.

Interface and Feel:

The DroidPad uses stock Froyo, Android 2.2. The good news is: you can customize your own homescreen to your hearts content! The bad news is: CSL has put their horrible looking widgets at the side of the screen [update: this seems to be the same horrible widgets on Viewpad 7 and Camangi FM600]. The unit I was using had both the stock Launcher and Launcher Pro on it. I also found that the accelerometer did not kick into action when I rotated the screen to potrait (it seemed stuck on landscape) even though I toggled to auto-rotate in the settings. I find this is just poor implementation on CSL’s part; just slap some of their own icons to make it ‘theirs’. I am confident most users would just ditch the whole custom interface provided and run their own (ADWLauncher or Launcher Pro).

The transitions were smooth and there were no lag (not surprising since the DroidPad uses Qualcomm’s improved MSM7227 600Mhz CPU to power the device). Things just zip open. The only problem that I could detect was in some crazy input detections while using Google Maps (the pinch-to-zoom was doing the opposite of what we wanted). The screen also froze once (before it had to be ‘forced close’). I’ve seen this sort of behaviour only in the ROM flashing scene, when using an un-optimised ROM that has been freshly released. I suspect this is the problem for the DroidPad… poor development quality control. The importance is that this is merely software-related and not hardware; it can be fixed!

Applications:

According to the sales person, there is no Flash available for the unit. I tried downloading from the Market (yes, they have the Market available) but it did not show on it. Which brings me to the Market; it is available from the apps menu (but sorry, no paid apps).

I installed Linpack Benchmark to test out its score, and found that it performed relatively well for its CPU, at 7.258Mflops.

Games worked well too.

I tested out Aldiko on the device, and found it very usable as an e-reader (see the picture). Would I use this to read Kindle? Why not? The screen is as big as a paperback anyway, and from my normal reading angle and distance, the words and text seem clear enough to me. I also tested the GPS and found it very speedy (again using the wifi connection only); managed to get a lock on my location in Google Maps in a few seconds.

What about browsing? It is acceptable. It won’t beat the iPhone 4 and the latest Android devices (of course), but it is not slow either. The best thing is the screen size allows a full site to be viewed without zooming into its part (see Engadget’s homepage that fit nicely in landscape mode). Even at that size, the text on the website can be easily read off the screen (see screen for yourself). The sales person told me that the DroidPad comes bundled with MapKing and a free one year license (good for Malaysians!). I think this device can easily replace any Garmin standalone devices for the car.

Camera:

It is a paltry 3.0MP camera in the back and a VGA (I believe) in the front (top right hand, see picture above for the smaller front facing camera). It takes adequate pictures (which reminded me of the camera on my old HTC Dream). Don’t expect much from it. For simple photo taking, it is quite fast. Video was basic and low quality. Unfortunately, I should have downloaded Fring/Skype or Qik to test out the front facing camera also. But I forgot all about that.

Review Regrets:

Besides not testing the front facing camera, I did not test the phone functionalities also. What I was told is that calls can be made via a handset that will be supplied along with the tablet. You can also pair it up with a Bluetooth headset if you want. Oh, please do not trust what the website says about their battery usage… CSL products are known for their poor battery quality. [Update: 3240mah battery made from an unidentified ODM, Original Design Manufacturer, is really hard to validate, without formal testing] Really sad but true. I think it should last at least 6 hours of heavy usage. It should, but again this is mere speculation until I get my hands on an actual unit (if ever).

Conclusion:

Is the DroidPad worth the money, given that the screen is only adequate and has low resolution? Does the USD500 justify the 2 cameras, the GPS and phone functionalities? I think on the matter of hardware, it seems a good price to pay for those abilities that were non-existent on the iPad. But if you are looking for high-quality builds that you can show off to your friends, well, let me suggest that you just walk away from this one. DroidPad at the end of the day, may not be an iPad alternative, but it sure is a Tab alternative.

I suspect that the DroidPad would be popular among the developers and Android hardcore developers and users who would like to rebuild the ROM and fix all the software flaws that was inherent in CSL’s work. I am sure that there is just so many things that you can do on this device that were not possible in smaller phone screen sizes. On that hope, I think the Android fanboy would be more than willing to spend that money on something that is a much cheaper version of the Samsung Tab.

Or you can just wait a month or two for the price to go down another RM100-RM200 before buying it. At RM1,300, this device is a MUST buy, given that it really delivers the basic Android experience that we have come to love.

The device is already available locally in Malaysian stores. No word about international sales though.
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Bravo ! mydear.

Good job on giving us the info and the no-hold-bar info and test results.

Actually it's true when it comes to CSL. At first I tot it is the 1st made in Msia type of Tablet ( besides EFren )...but it turned out to be an OEM sort of agreement with the actual manufacturer and CSL just rebrand and sell these unit...

CSL also have to pay the royalty etc..etc for these units I think..


Alternative 2.2 Froyo is coming soon.. I will keep you all updated in this thread. It is not available yet, only in October.

Once it is avail, I will put up a small detail here and I will open a new thread for this Tablet.

Cheers !!
Vince




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post Oct 4 2010, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 4 2010, 08:59 AM)
I have a short 10 mins test of it at LowYat on Friday . The price of RM 1599 includes several freebies especially attractive is the casing. I like the casing for its protection and versatility

Scrolling and response is good even though is on 600 MHz. When testing I compare it with my iPAD and I'd say its performance is good. Did not test the phone functions

Only thing I do not like is its construction and appearance - is cheap looking and crude. Remind me of stuffs made 10 years ago. It is also quite thick

A better price range will be around RM1.2k.
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Thanks for update.

On the weight, since it looked like a brick..is it very noticeable and felt when you lift up the unit. ?

The unit you tested is without any screen protector on it. I wonder once you put a layer of the protector film, will the capacitive screen still work as good as without the film ? Have you tried that ?

Cheers !
Vince
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 4 2010, 11:27 AM)
It is light and very portable. Compared to my iPAD it is " feather" light !!
Don't think screen protector will affect as I had been using such protectors on capacitative screen gadgets -  my ipad, HD2, Nexus and recent Dell Streak etc
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Thanks for your feedback.



Cheers !
Vince
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post Oct 4 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(raoul @ Oct 4 2010, 03:39 PM)
Price drop or not, no ones know.

So far...there's no tablet launched and sold in Malaysia or perhaps in the world which running on Android 2.2  rclxms.gif
In fact, can safely say that this's the 1st 7" tablet officially launched and sold in the world running on 2.2

Viewsonic 7, Olive Pad, Camangi 600 just lauched in other parts of the world but I understood it only will be sold to public somewhere this month only.
All the mentioned tablet name is same with Droidpad Spice but software customize for each respective company that's selling it.

Samsung Galaxy Tab will follow soon but expect to pay at least min 2.5k for it.
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SGT sold on Ebay, unlocked for close to USD 1k..with others selling above 1K..
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QUOTE(cwcwcw @ Oct 6 2010, 04:48 PM)
Hello fren,


This thread is for discussion on CSL and equivalent.

This is not a sale forum. Pls move to the Garage Sales.

Tks
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post Oct 7 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(baretta @ Oct 7 2010, 03:11 PM)
Csl got promotion now at lyp. 1599 plus a lot of free gift. I already tested. Not smooth like ipad. Flash website cannot open eventhough using froyo 2.2. Build quality quite good. Pinch and zoom not so smooth. Feel laggy for certain apps. For me , better wait galaxy tab for comparison.
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Of course not as good as ipad..how to compare leh

Galaxy Tab easily beat CSL hands down.. the quality almost as good as ipad ...But you have to shell out almost 3k for it. Which I think is overpriced.


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post Oct 11 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(raoul @ Oct 11 2010, 03:20 PM)
Maybe TS can update the owner list on 1st page

Perhaps we could organize a gathering soon somewhere in KL/PJ and contact CSL to sponsor some freebies since we're doing some form of marketing for them smile.gif
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hehehe...interesting to start a club. good idea. CSL club for owners of the tablets.



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QUOTE(zaizu @ Oct 12 2010, 11:21 PM)
Thanks a lot for the link. Nicely explained.

Cheers !
Vince
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QUOTE(raoul @ Oct 13 2010, 01:56 PM)
This thread not so active like others  tongue.gif .....but I'm sure it will be hot in couple of weeks soon as we can see more new owners are coming in here.

The problem is that a lot of potential buyer tends to compare the MI700 to others CSL phone which have bad reputation.

What they don't know is that the MI700 is a totally different product and it's made by Foxconn with minor customization fit to CSL order eventhough the warrenty sticker stated "Made By CSL".

Imagine, just after 2 weeks, our own Malaysian people has managed to "root" the device.

Within the next few weeks, I'm sure it can be overclocked and within next few months, who knows the much anticipated Samsung Galaxy Tab ROM could be ported to this device !!

I'm sure lots of app will be developed to suit Galaxy Tab screen size resolution which indirectly will benefit the MI700.

Hey..even the internal Facebook app in MI700 detected the device as Samsung Galaxy Tab !!
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Hehehe...not so active, due to I don't really go online that often and opened this thread last time, due to curious about "our" local brand CSL having their own tablet.

Glad that at least this thread..have regular update and feedback for all of us to share, compare and discuss about MI700..

Thanks to all and keep in up. thumbup.gif


Cheers !
Vince
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post Oct 13 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(anakrantau @ Oct 13 2010, 04:50 PM)
do not forget to put the root guide at least the link (http://erlern.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/rooting-mi700-droidpad-simple-steps/) at the 1st page.
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Ok bro. will do so..


Thanks !
Vince

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