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Buyers cry ‘fowl’ over Ramadan price-gouging
August 11, 2010



ALOR SETAR, Aug 11 — Muslims who start fasting today to mark Ramadan are left fuming as traders resort to profiteering by hiking the price of chicken.

A Bernama check at the Alor Setar central market and Jitra wet market today found that the price of chicken had been increased by 30 to 50 sen per kg.

Saniah Ahmad,42, who was met at the market was shocked by the big increase in the price of chicken.

“The price of chicken has increased from RM6.50 to RM7 per kg. I find this increase way too much,” she said adding authorities should act fast to protect consumers.

Another consumer Che Pi Hamid,46, urged authorities to monitor the price of essential goods to protect consumers against unscrupulous traders. He said traders usually come up with a host of reasons to justify the hike in price of essential goods during festivals.

Meanwhile, chicken seller Abdul Shukur Darus,33, said he had to hike the chicken price by 30 sen per kg as suppliers had done so.

“I don’t have much choice and have to sell chicken at RM7 per kg although the price is high,” said Shukur.

Fellow chicken seller Wan Ahmad Fauzi Wan Ismail,35, said it was normal for the price of daily goods to cost more during Ramadan.

“We are still selling chicken at RM7 per kg but some traders are selling them at RM7.50 today,” he said.

A check at Jitra market found that the chicken price had increased from RM5.70-RM6 to RM6.50 per kg today.

Kedah Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry director Salleh Ma’amor said chicken was not a controlled item and its price was based on supply and demand.

“We expect the price of chicken to increase by RM1 per kg during Ramadan. Chicken will be made a price controlled item two weeks before Aidilfitri,” he added. — Bernama

Babi still more expensive.

biasa ma, CNY the things also gone up.

this is where you are wrong. chicken for chinese new year rm4-5 per kg.

the cainis supplier always jack up prices for puasa & raya.

Are you implying racism here?

i'm not implying anything.

i jsut say as it is.

some people call it opportunist, some people call it racism. i see it as business. always been and will continue to be this way

higher demand, same supply = higher prices. econ 101.

People don't like capitalism, can ask them try communism.

See? It already happen just what I wished for

How come only chikin prices go up? Lembu got go up ah?

Meleis only eat chikin during ramadan?

communism = tak cukup makan. artificially low prices lead to shortage. so many times in history happen liao.

this is true, but only until certain extent. the way i see it, the supplies are controlled by a certain group of people. it's not like during ramadhan suddenly supply shrunk, or demand increase exponentially. as a matter of fact, demand should be reduced since people are eating less... so price should go down... it's well known that cainis always look after their own, hence the reduced price during CNY. as for puasa & raya? well, all excuse will be thrown about for the price increase. after all, people will still buy, right right? business maa... ada can get more untung, of course people will do it

This post has been edited by dagnarus: Aug 11 2010, 04:37 PM

pasar ramadhan panggang ayam percik like nobody's business. plus you can't control the supply of chicken per se in the short run. stop killing your chickens and let them age? freeze the raw chicken meat? no profit in that. it is called demand-pull inflation for a reason. remember the population demand too, chinese only make up 20% or so during cny compared to the 70% during raya.

This post has been edited by Chill4x: Aug 11 2010, 04:39 PM

nice try troll

wah wah... puasa masih ada tenaga nak vroom vroom...

ayam HPA lagi mahal lor

tapi bersih dari racun dadah & tidak hanyir

i rike

i dont see any racism in that sentence? mind explain it to me on why you said it is racist?

i'm not gonna retract from anything. if you guys go to the pasar/hypermart often enough to notice the change in price then you'll see as I see. I got a relative supplying ayam also. that's how I know it la. ayam the main supplier is the cainis. they control the anak ayam supply, the food, and the borong for the adult one. haish people should only talk if they know about them, if not make yourself look rather foolish

Lembu > chicken so people will always eat chicken but chicken > some fish. Should eat more fish.

oh and one more thing, people will become more defensive when they know its true...

Boycott chicken lah..... you butthurt people

normal days also price high la. in tganu price at 7 is normal

lol who knows theres a chiken boikot fag group somewhere

simple supply and demand issue can also be diverted to racist issue.. Yah..welcome to malaysia

its supply and demand simple. u think supplier can simply jack up prices? either u think the gov is stupid or the people buying are.

Dowan to eat chicken if price too exp

actually BOTH also are stupid

Chicken is not a controlled price item

This post has been edited by MakaiKnight: Aug 11 2010, 04:49 PM

pasar chicken naik harga then go kfc la. there no naik harga. lol

u kalao arak & babi mahal, u boleh boikot tak...???

go to the pasar/hypermarket, and tell me if there's no chicken to be bought? LOADS of them

those who live with their parents or eating out, not cooking / buying raw materials for themselves will not be aware of this. this is malaysia la. as i said before, if there's an opportunity to make more money, people will take it.

supply and demand only works properly in an ideal world. but it never is. econ 101

there are always champagne and beef and other alternatives

This post has been edited by Keith321: Aug 11 2010, 04:51 PM

arak and babi is already mahal.

i makan daging saja

http://www.carrefour.com.my/pdf/fresh3.pdf

Fish cheap RM5 per kg

ok so consumers are ignorant.

what do, can only tell the authorities to regulate the prices.
you cant go to the suppliers and tell them to lower the price.

if chicken expensive, can try beef or pork or fish

give up lar dagnarus, Malaysian where got study econ 101, no such subject exist in primary or even secondary school

although its not very nice to do so, but that's just business opportunity.
smart business man will take whatever chances to earn more ma...

+1. this is what i've been trying to tell, but people are flaming me for being racist LOL.

+1

aduh, if the prices are that high and the people are still buying means that the demand is high la. the businesses will charge whatever the market can bear. consumers dont like the price dont buy.

You think all Chicken seller is Chainis meh... you racist fella.. I tell abang now...

you said kambing is racist. but u see dagnarus racist but u support him. Wat give?
An eye for an eye will go blind...

meh, your post here was solely targeting cainis taking advantage on maleis

no la.i am just implying that cinais is good at business because they already control the market segment like it or not

nope, chicken seller plenty of meleis, but rarer/supplier = majority cainis.

and pleaselah, why so fast to tag people with racist tag? i've been saying as it is since my first post in this thread. some of you are implying wrongly. i didnt imply anything. I say it as it is. it's not my fault if my knowledge extends to those things beyond your comprehension/experience

This post has been edited by dagnarus: Aug 11 2010, 05:04 PM

see you imply that i said cainis is taking advantage on maleis.....

what i simply mention there is during raya & puasa the supplier (which are cainis in majority) will jack up the price. so basically you want me to omit the word cainis there and simply say

supplier will jack up price for raya & puasa?

no point sugarcoating things that are well known bro

This post has been edited by dagnarus: Aug 11 2010, 05:06 PM

based on this logic, would you have raised the same issue if it were malay suppliers during chinese new year?

you brought up the race issue, i see it as profit driven.

aint that sounds more appropriate since it doesn't really have anything to do with the race but the business module itself
and you think those people won't find chance to untung their own race money meh

but anyway ppl just trollin' relaks~

so meaning if "lu tak suka lu balik cina" happen, melei no more ayam makan liao lo?

got la, ayam kampung. more healthy and expensive lo

Same thing every single year. Just shop with seller that still offer old prices.rmb with depend in market demand also. If too high,nobody will buy too

This post has been edited by Spectreoutreach: Aug 11 2010, 05:15 PM

why meleis must eat so much chicken, causing price hike. Can't they eat less?

can. You see lah if everyone buy fish instead of chicken the price will drop.

This post has been edited by automan5891: Aug 11 2010, 05:24 PM

Yes, I totally agree with your statement. This is just demand and supply issue, why would he even bring up race issue?

please don't forget this celebration is base on religion, not a MALAY only celebration there's islam chinese, indian, orang asli and others.

even the indon in celebrate too...

u tak suka,u jangan beli..

If too expensive just buy KFC lor.

ayam kan sedap, daging banyak, tak banyak tulang kecil kecil macam ikan.
disamping tu murah juga

in before "You tak suka you keluar!!!"

If chicken expensive means God wants to test people's iman. Maybe he saw too much wastage.

@dagnarus
please take note on TS post....
why government dont want put it in control list??
if govenrment put in control list...do you think the price still high???
do you think cainis will not follow the rules???
so back to main reason is not the supplier or what..is the goverment problem

It guides people to spend less during ramadhan. jangan beli ikut kemahuan. in the end, tak habis makan.

no wonder people with RM 4K/m cannot survive

Eat sayur lor. Malay food really no nice sayur one. Very weird.

Got ulam, very good with budu and sambal blacan.

Nothing against the barrage of chinese vegetarian chap fun.

lanca.u skit2 nk butthurt

so price of kfc will go up?

oh wai....

I chuckled. Well played

LATER TONIGHT........
dagnarus(dupe) to MakaiKnight(dupe)

you're justifying racism...i hereby declare that you batal puasa. pls substitute after ramadan

Utter rubbish.



Source

kantoi

have you actually been to the pasar/hypermart on weeks heading to CNY? what is written on paper is one thing, the other is to experience it yourself. on second thought, have you actually ever buy raw chicken yourself?

Yes, I have. Do you have any evidence at all that it's at RM4-5 besides your allegations?

cant really get a price list of any kind, but here's a snippet from a blog, who did encounter the same price cut as me. and yes, 2.99 was the lowest price i've seen it go.

http://tunsabanbalek.blogspot.com/2010/01/...elang-raya.html

Based on the evidence brought to the table, thesoothsayer > dagnarus.

I think it is just a supply and demand issue.

In big towns and cities nowadays the non-Muslims also like to visit the Muslim stalls. You don't have the same thing for Chinese New Year.

Also one very major difference to note, the biggest event for Chinese New Year is the reunion dinner. Usually there is chicken served.

There might be higher demand for chickens but it is only for one dinner.

Compare that to the demand for chickens for an entire month of Ramadhan. And the open houses.

Chinese open houses during Chinese New Year usually have servings of tidbits. Whereas Malay open houses.....wow...so much food. Satay, curry ayam, rendang ayam, lemang, etc. etc.

dagnarus, I think what you say doesn't hold water.

kantoi

pasal ayam pun nak gaduh. memang 1malaysia betul.

what you are implying above is too much

fish>chicken

Haahahahahahahah!!

Taukeh kaya suka buat hal
Suka pengaruh sama government
Ayam mahal ikan mahal
Jadilah semua vegetarian

they woke up early in the morning and went back to sleep during daytime

Tengah malam kita lelap
Tengah pagi kita berjaga
Saya bagi makan arnab
Selalu pada pukul tiga

Ex-Farm Prices of Broiler in West Malaysia

The farm prices for broilers during CNY 2009 was RM4.40 starting from Jan 16 2009. I think CNY was around Jan 29. Prices dropped to RM3.80 after CNY ended on Feb 11 2009.

Hari Raya 2008 was end of Oct 2008. If I average the cost of the listed price for the month of Oct, it's around RM4.47. Ranging from a high of RM5.10 starting early Aug, with the price being reduced in early Oct to RM4.30 and dipping to a low of RM4 in the middle of Oct.

You can compare the prices during each holiday season and see that there is no conspiracy to lower the prices for CNY.

Oh well, I've said what need to be said from a consumer point of view. Anyhow, thanks for all the links soothsayer, and for being civil throughout too. I guess by these evidents, my accusation of a lower price for CNY do seem unjustified. All I can say is, just wait for the next CNY and keep an eye on the chicken sold @ hypermarts, just for the lulz....

Ok. I will keep an eye out.

well I will closely follow the ayam price next CNY. anyway thx for enlightment dagnarus.

kita tengok siapa yang kena

I meant it in a good way. That doesn't sit well with you?

a humble troll

Just saw an advertisement in the star yesterday that Tesco (I think) is selling whole chicken at RM5.69 per kg, and I was at Carrefour yesterday and they were selling whole, dressed chicken at RM5.25 per kg but with the head and feet attached.

Not too bad considering that the prices for food have inflated like crazy these few years.

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Added on September 8, 2010, 1:07 pmGiant's advertisement in today's Sun lists whole chicken at 4.89 per kg.


This post has been edited by thesoothsayer: Sep 8 2010, 01:07 PM