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it.fusion
post Aug 25 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(The Envoy @ Sep 30 2010, 01:13 AM)
I seriously doubt that anybody in LYN will be achieving enlightenment within this lifetime.
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haha.. how can you judge or doubt that...
and whats the need for you to say that ?

you shall be working for your own... and its not by judging others smile.gif
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post Aug 25 2011, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 28 2010, 11:01 AM)
All of us have this thing called "buddha-citta", which is the capability to be enlightened. The 8fold path taught by the Buddha is to help us to arouse this Buddhacitta in us. That is to say, the Dhamma taught by the Buddha opens the way for this natural ability of our mind to arise. It's a good thing, because that means YOU and me all can become enlightened.  In theravada buddhism, anyone who becomes enlightened is called an Arahant.

The highest respect one can accord to the Buddha, according to the Buddha himself, is to practice the Dhamma.
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does everyone who practise buddhism does the Dhamma Practise ?
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post Aug 25 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(it.fusion @ Aug 25 2011, 03:27 PM)
does everyone who practise buddhism does the Dhamma Practise ?
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Well, if you ask me, everyone practice the dhamma is for purification purposes.

Some are faster , some are slower but eventually they will reach the destination.

You may have to define what 'practice' and 'dhamma' is.

If you practice correctly and with the correct dhamma, then of course it will lead to the intended result.

If you practice wrongly with the correct dhamma, you won't get the result.

If you practice correctly but with the wrong dhamma, then you won't see the result.

You also have to take into consideration of competent teachers to instruct you.

So, those are the important things you may want to consider when you talk about practice of dhamma.

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post Aug 25 2011, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 25 2011, 03:13 PM)
I am not qualified to be a youth there. Hehe. Try google , they got contact.

I paid them a visit few months ago. It was the one near USJ summit right?
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Their website is seriously outdated weyh. The location of the lot they gave (in SS15 facing the NPE) is different from where their lot is currently located (facing Asia Cafe). I had to walk around the whole row to find the place. shakehead.gif
Want to send them an enquiry form but cannot because of some Captcha error.
Want to call them but no phone number given.
Want to visit them dont know what time they are open. Manatau their activities oso change time and day from what the website says. rclxub.gif


The one near Summit is the main Buddhist Association, with the serious meditating and more in-depth dhamma activities. The youth one is more, you know, youth-oriented. That's the one I wanna join~
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post Aug 25 2011, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 25 2011, 04:21 PM)
Their website is seriously outdated weyh. The location of the lot they gave (in SS15 facing the NPE) is different from where their lot is currently located (facing Asia Cafe). I had to walk around the whole row to find the place.  shakehead.gif
Want to send them an enquiry form but cannot because of some Captcha error.
Want to call them but no phone number given.
Want to visit them dont know what time they are open. Manatau their activities oso change time and day from what the website says.  rclxub.gif
The one near Summit is the main Buddhist Association, with the serious meditating and more in-depth dhamma activities. The youth one is more, you know, youth-oriented. That's the one I wanna join~
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oh like that I don't really know , paiseh
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post Aug 25 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Misteri2010 @ Sep 28 2010, 10:20 AM)
I read on their kitab suci..all written in Japanese..They din say Namo Amitabha..They say Namyo Horen Gekyo..

anyone know about this?
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Actually they are "soka gakkai"
"Namyo Horen Gekyo" qequals to "南無妙法蓮華經" or "pay homage to great dharma lotus sutra". The scripture they referred to is "lotus sutra". IF I remembered correctly, they only focus and chant certain chapters but not the whole sutra. You can get the original sutra translated in Chinese and english if you want to know the context of it.

btw, They are not equal to "Tendai buddhism"

QUOTE(it.fusion @ Aug 25 2011, 03:27 PM)
does everyone who practise buddhism does the Dhamma Practise ?
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How do you differentiate between "practice Buddhism" and "Dhamma Practice"? How do you define that?
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post Aug 25 2011, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 25 2011, 04:37 PM)
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oh like that I don't really know , paiseh
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Surely there must be at least one SJBA Youth member here right?
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post Aug 25 2011, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 25 2011, 10:53 PM)
Surely there must be at least one SJBA Youth member here right?
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You wanna join their activities? i can get their youth exco's contact for you smile.gif
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post Aug 25 2011, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 25 2011, 10:57 PM)
You wanna join their activities? i can get their youth exco's contact for you smile.gif
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provided the time and day is suitable for me lor... thats why I'm looking around for the members so I can ask them when they have their Youth Seekers Gathering.
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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 25 2011, 10:59 PM)
provided the time and day is suitable for me lor... thats why I'm looking around for the members so I can ask them when they have their Youth Seekers Gathering.
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usually they have their meetings on sundays la...

i am currently collaborating with them to organise a buddhist camp for indonesians la. laugh.gif
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:02 PM

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anyone read this book before?

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post Aug 25 2011, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 25 2011, 11:01 PM)
usually they have their meetings on sundays la...

i am currently collaborating with them to organise a buddhist camp for indonesians la.  laugh.gif
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huh, sundays... and the website said friday. what time are the meetings? hopefully not at night~

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post Aug 26 2011, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(fire_hoax @ Aug 25 2011, 11:02 PM)
anyone read this book before?

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When is a person considered a Upasaka (male lay buddhists) or Upasika (female lay buddhists)?


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I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying in Rajagaha, at Jivaka's Mango Grove. Then Jivaka Komarabhacca went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "Lord, to what extent is one a lay follower?"

"Jivaka, when one has gone to the Buddha for refuge, has gone to the Dhamma for refuge, and has gone to the Sangha for refuge, then to that extent is one a lay follower."

"And to what extent, lord, is one a virtuous lay follower?"

"Jivaka, when one abstains from taking life, from stealing, from sexual misconduct, from lying, and from fermented & distilled drinks that lead to heedlessness, then to that extent is one a virtuous lay follower."

Jivaka Sutta AN:8.26
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The Buddha said that to be a lay Buddhist one has to have taken the Triple Refuge and sincerely practise the five Precepts (A.IV.222). This of course is the bare minimum. The Buddha expected the highest ethical, intellectual and spiritual aspirations from all his disciples. The Dhamma was meant for all, it can be realized by all and therefore it should be practised by all. The Buddha said: "Whether in a householder or a monastic I praise right practice. And whether they be a householder or a monastic, if they practise in the right way, then because of their right practice they will be winners of the Truth, the Dhamma, the Skilful" (S.V,19). Some lay people today believe that it is sufficient for them to just worship the Buddha or other worthy persons. The Buddha would have agreed with this but his idea of what constitutes truly meaningful worship was in a different category from bowing, putting the hands in a praying gesture and placing flowers on shrines. He said: "The monk or the nun, the lay-man or lay-woman who lives by the Dhamma and perfectly fulfils it, it is they who honour me with the highest reverence" (D.II,138).

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post Aug 26 2011, 10:09 AM

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does buddhist believes in end of the world?
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post Aug 26 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(helload @ Aug 26 2011, 10:09 AM)
does buddhist believes in end of the world?
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It is mentioned in the Sutta.

Mini cycles and major cycles.

Mini cycles: Time for human lifespan to decrease from indefinite years (some say 100,000 ) to 10 years and back to 100,000 years.


Major cycles: Entire universe comes to dissolution at the end of the Aeon (Mahakappa).

If we talk about mini-cycles, some say about 16 or 64 mini cycles will pass before the coming of the destructive phase of the universe cycle. We are still very far from it.

The Buddha did not say exactly how long one Mahakappa (aeon) is, but he gave a simile and it is indeed a very long time. Some say it's few quadrillion of years.

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post Aug 26 2011, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 26 2011, 10:22 AM)
It is mentioned in the Sutta.

Mini cycles and major cycles.

Mini cycles: Time for human lifespan to decrease from indefinite years (some say 100,000 )  to 10 years and back to 100,000 years.
Major cycles: Entire universe comes to dissolution at the end of the Aeon (Mahakappa).

If we talk about mini-cycles, some say about 16 or 64 mini cycles will pass before the coming of the destructive phase of the universe cycle.  We are still very far from it.

The Buddha did not say exactly how long one Mahakappa (aeon) is, but he gave a simile and it is indeed a very long time. Some say it's few quadrillion of years.
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thanks for the answer...


another thing, what is the real buddhist teaching:

- when you become a buddha (enlightened), you will become 1 with the universe (nothing, gone, finish) as you will not be in the karmic cycle anymoar.

or

- when you become a buddha, you will be like a deva(Gods), only in the highest tier.

I heard 2 different teachings... but in the buddhist teaching considering how life cycles and everything is attached to karma, I guess the first statement is more correct? as to become a Buddha is to lose all the connections with the world...
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post Aug 26 2011, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(helload @ Aug 26 2011, 10:34 AM)
thanks for the answer...
another thing, what is the real buddhist teaching:

- when you become a buddha (enlightened), you will become 1 with the universe (nothing, gone, finish) as you will not be in the karmic cycle anymoar.

or

- when you become a buddha, you will be like a deva(Gods), only in the highest tier.

I heard 2 different teachings... but in the buddhist teaching considering how life cycles and everything is attached to karma, I guess the first statement is more correct? as to become a Buddha is to lose all the connections with the world...
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Well we exist because we are attached to the 5 aggregates.

Once you attain enlightenment, you relinquish these attachments. It means, after you die, you don't reappear anymore anywhere in the universe.

So your first statement is more accurate. But you must understand when you attain Nibbana, you don't have anything else already, not even feeling or consciousness - these are all 5 aggregates.
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post Aug 26 2011, 10:50 AM

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man having the thought of becoming nothingness scared the shit out of me...

I love this world's lifestyle too much biggrin.gif


QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 25 2011, 11:01 PM)
usually they have their meetings on sundays la...

i am currently collaborating with them to organise a buddhist camp for indonesians la.  laugh.gif
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Im an Indonesian, when will be the camp? and where?

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can i ask if fapping is sinful in buddhism, serious question

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