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post Sep 10 2010, 09:38 PM

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post Sep 11 2010, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(tailangong @ Sep 10 2010, 09:38 PM)
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Hi hi. Today holiday. Zz
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post Sep 12 2010, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Sep 10 2010, 02:03 PM)
If we don't know fate , fate is actually exist
If we know fate , we can overcome fate or will not exist
Hanuman does exists
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what about destiny then?

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post Sep 12 2010, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 11 2010, 12:57 PM)
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u sarawakian..so u muz be hallelujah laugh.gif
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post Sep 12 2010, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Sep 12 2010, 12:05 AM)
what about destiny then?
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Same term apply.If we "knew" we can control/change destiny.But do remember there's a profit and loss.If we gain , someone will loss , so under the teaching , gain = greed so it's not under any of those teaching guidance.Just let the destiny decide.

That's why wise said let the fate/destiny be .When it comes , we face and accept it then we fix , lastly , we leave it.It's just like a wind , when it blow we accept the wind , we fix the window with double side tape to prevent glass break and after it wind go , we remove the tape and leave it as usual.

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Sep 12 2010, 03:24 AM)
Same term apply.If we "knew" we can control/change destiny.But do remember there's a profit and loss.If we gain , someone will loss , so under the teaching , gain = greed so it's not under any of those teaching guidance.Just let the destiny decide.

That's why wise said let the fate/destiny be .When it comes , we face and accept it then we fix , lastly , we leave it.It's just like a wind , when it blow we accept the wind , we fix the window with double side tape to prevent glass break and after it wind go , we remove the tape and leave it as usual.
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there`s a talk by ajarn bhran, he said thus " if we elt go of this desire to gain, then there would be no desire to learn dhamma, desire to reach enlightenment, desire to help and be compassionate at all"

we must not let go this basic desire, but be specific and ready to let go when the time comes
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post Sep 12 2010, 05:25 PM

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post Sep 12 2010, 07:54 PM

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i wonder how many good karma brought over from my past life has left...

i've been pretty 'good luck' on a few occasions...notably life threatening ones..including not seeing the incoming cars properly before making a turn...thankfully that time the opposing car was coming slow.. sweat.gif
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post Sep 13 2010, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 12 2010, 07:54 PM)
i wonder how many good karma brought over from my past life has left...

i've been pretty 'good luck' on a few occasions...notably life threatening ones..including not seeing the incoming cars properly before making a turn...thankfully that time the opposing car was coming slow.. sweat.gif
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Should be more careful next time hor. This kamma works in very complicated ways. Some destructive kamma can kill you no matter how you want to avoid also you cannot. Some are just killing kamma not so strong but can exert itself when conditions are right. So as far as possible, exercise mindfulness and do our best to be careful on the road.

But if really got destructive kamma , then no choice. Always reflect on death, that will give you a sense of urgency to practice the dhamma. We are never sure of what kamma will mature tomorrow, or until when we will have chance to practice the dhamma again. Human life is very short, but it is also the best avenue to get lots of merits.


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QUOTE(Josep86 @ Sep 12 2010, 05:25 PM)
gautama hair looks like an african hair
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Nobody knows how the buddha actually look like. But it was recorded in the Sutta, that the buddha possess extremely refined features (handsome) and so as his son Rahula.

Ven Anuruddha (one of the prominent disciples with divine eye) was recorded to be very handsome until some females wanted to disturb him.

These great people have good kamma, and they were born with riches/power and good looks.
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 13 2010, 09:54 AM)
Should be more careful  next time hor. This kamma works in very complicated ways. Some destructive kamma can kill you no matter how you want to avoid also you cannot.  Some are just killing kamma not so strong but can exert itself when conditions are right. So as far as possible, exercise mindfulness and do our best to be careful on the road.

But if really got destructive kamma , then no choice. Always reflect on death, that will give you a sense of urgency to practice the dhamma. We are never sure of what kamma will mature tomorrow, or until when we will have chance to practice the dhamma again. Human life is very short, but it is also the best avenue to get lots of merits.
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its not only driving...

sometimes crossing the road..

most recent case was i drive my car until reach home with very very VERY little fuel..the next day i start car....car cannot move because fuel tank totally empty..

luckily the car did not die while i was on the road..so just wondering...how many good merits that i had obtained had been exhausted in these situations, or it does not work this way. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 12 2010, 07:54 PM)
i wonder how many good karma brought over from my past life has left...

i've been pretty 'good luck' on a few occasions...notably life threatening ones..including not seeing the incoming cars properly before making a turn...thankfully that time the opposing car was coming slow.. sweat.gif
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unker tan .. i believe in karma too ...

being alot of stop heading my way ..

dono why it happens to me ..

or mayb its just me ?
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post Sep 20 2010, 08:52 AM

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uncle tan?? he so old meh?
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post Sep 20 2010, 08:57 AM

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Hey fellow Buddhists. I am an English literate, tak tau baca Chinese characters, so can anyone let me know where to get the English version of Dharmasutra (or however you spell it)? And several other sutras? Thank you smile.gif
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 3 2010, 08:05 AM)
Any of you interested to learn metta meditation let me know. I can give you the details of the series of metta meditation course in PJ / Subang vicinity, conducted by Burmese monk under SJVM.

What are the benefits of metta (loving-kindness) meditation?

   1. He sleeps well
   2. He wakes up feeling good
   3. He does not have bad dreams
   4. He is well-liked by fellow men
   5. He is well-liked by people everywhere
   6. He is protected by Devas
   7. He will not be harmed by fire, poison or weapons
   8. He achieves Samadhi fast
   9. His facial complexion is healthy
  10. He will pass away unconfused
  11. If he does not attain arahatship, he will be reborn in the Brahma world
Metta (loving-kindness) is one of the 4 brahma viharas (sublime states of the brahma gods) that is
1. Metta
2. Karuna (Compassion)
3. Mudita (Sympathetic joy)
4. Upekkha (Equanimity)

One who dwells in these states are said to be dwelling in the abodes of the Brahmas (high divinity).

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Can u explain the one i highlight how this meditation can help promote protection by Devas? How to know even if there is any Devas around to protect you? smile.gif

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post Sep 20 2010, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Sep 20 2010, 08:58 AM)
Can u explain the one i highlight how this meditation can help promote protection by Devas?  How to know even if there is any Devas around to protect you? smile.gif
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Well, there are many ways to do this type of meditation. I understand there are people who follow the instruction to direct the metta to the deities around them. It is mentioned there are some deities who are friendly , and some who are not so friendly.

If you wish them well, of course the deities (if they are around you) will be happy, and they will become friendly to you. The not-so-friendly deities will become neutral to you, and the friendly ones will become close to you.


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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 20 2010, 09:12 AM)
Well, there are many ways to do this type of meditation. I understand there are people who follow the instruction to direct the metta to the deities around them. It is mentioned there are some deities who are friendly , and some who are not so friendly.

This is especially important for monks who enter a forest to do meditation, and they direct metta to the invisible beings in the forest to ask for protection against the 'not-so-friendly' ones. If i remember correctly, there are recorded cases of monks who were disturbed by terrifying images in the forest during the Buddha's time. This was due to the unfriendly deities manifesting themselves. These monks went to the Buddha, and the Buddha taught them to direct Metta to those deities. AFter that, they did not encounter anymore disturbances there.
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Those are classic example of monks that is going thru meditation daily, what about layman? smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Sep 20 2010, 09:23 AM)
Those are classic example of monks that is going thru meditation daily, what about layman?  smile.gif
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Of course, it's for everyone who does metta.
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 20 2010, 09:25 AM)
Of course, it's for everyone who does metta.
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sorry let me rephrase my question again, How to know whether there is any Devas around to protect you when u are doing metta meditation? by feeling? smile.gif

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