technically u will experience an impermenant state of nirvana.

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Added on August 24, 2010, 9:58 amspeaking of karma,

where does fate fall into?

or specifically, 缘。

This post has been edited by zstan: Aug 24 2010, 09:58 AM

dont fall into the trap of intellectual argument.

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Aug 24 2010, 10:45 AM

Hmm.

From what I remember,

1 Meng (Life)
2 Wan (Destiny)
3 Feng Shui
4 Hang Xin Jik Dak (do good deeds)
5 Duk Shu (Education)

I guess Destiny comes before Karma?

what is this? why suddenly got feng shui one?

so destiny is not karma?

I heard this too. I think it's taoism.

yes please go and dai now and end your sufferings.

Lol nice.

I wish someone told your parents that.

well think about it....if everyone else in samsara just want happiness and want to avoid suffering and that is their sole focus, and the reason to practice Buddhism is for that, what makes you break the cycle of acquiring happiness and avoid suffering? it's the same thing just that the target object is different....

in that case, the Buddha shouldnt have spent his time explaining to people on how to achieve enlightenment because he is also using intellectual argument. He has also used that before against a few people before in the suttas. Most notable was the guy who wanted to debate with the Buddha. So are you saying that the Buddha should have done differently?

so how is saying that mahayanists and vajrayanists focus more on helping others intellectual?

so i'd like to ask, how is this an intellectual argument? I am just presenting my points, if you disagree or you find something wrong feel free to point it out

have you not notice that this entire thread is nothing but intellectual postings and ramblings? so in reality we shouldnt be having this thread, but the reason why i do explanations like this is so that people can read and they might just benefit from it.

This post has been edited by Joey-kun: Aug 24 2010, 02:26 PM

fate dosent exist in Buddhism because everything can change depending on how much effort you put to displacing the conditions that cause you to be in such a way.

If you noticed, I only said "don't fall into intellectual debate trap", and I got an earful lecture from you. You think you are right and I am wrong, be it, no need to argue.

i dont see it as an argument but just want to know your point of view clearer. i dont get anything if i win you know so why would i want to?

No, you don't.

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Aug 24 2010, 03:26 PM

I enjoyed reading those Zen comics from Asiapac, but somehow the bookstores stopped selling them sometime ago.

Unrelated, but I lol'd



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are there?

tara. chastised by the Buddha yes.

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Aug 24 2010, 03:28 PM

i might have sound a little too aggressive with the way i presented my viewpoints so i'd like to apologize.

I did not mean to put you down or challenge you.

but also all the same if you dont wish to see my postings, just say it and i will stop posting here.

since what i write dosent help people to understand Buddhism better, but on the other hand seem to have offended certain people might as well stop it.

This post has been edited by Joey-kun: Aug 24 2010, 03:37 PM

Why not? As long as it doesn't go out to hand, it's still a good discussion.

Rather than being trolled all day long that's what that keeps the thread going