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hotjake
post Jan 13 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 10:43 AM)
syadux3... how long you practice buddhism already?

btw, my teacher also told me certain kamma would arise in meditation too, so yogis are normally instructed to keep short fingernails, and don't sit at places where they might be exposed to danger like beside a stream, water, etc. Just in case evil kamma arise during meditation and ....
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erm... since form 3 i think? i'm 30. actually i was exposed much earlier but no effect on me except i grew up to be very skeptical & rebellious on things that do not conform logically which usually landed me in hot soup.

yes, it does arise in meditation, hence it is not advisable to meditate at those places you mentioned in the forest. u might see Petas too asking you for merits (serious)


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post Jan 13 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 11:11 AM)
Wow, any stories of petas manifesting asking for merits?
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not me.. but got heard form others. tell u if we meet hahahaha... here not scary enough
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post Jan 13 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 11:21 AM)
were the yogis terrified when the Petas manifest? But i heard from my teacher normally they don't dare disturb because our kamma protects us wor....

have you ever recited the protection suttas? those asking the generals of the cathumaharajika gods to aid those monks or upasakas who are being disturbed or possesed by the yakkhas?
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of course terrified, imagine a peta who is 12 feet tall like a tree standing naked in front of you. they don dare disturb if you r "pure". what if u're not? hahahaha...

u mean from paritta sutta? yes. dunno if it really works but so far din get disturbed, haha. yakkhas r not to be played with, out recitation of paritta is not enough if generals of the cathumaharajika gods r not on our side. to be worthy, we need to to practice more metta (i think)

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post Jan 16 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Jan 16 2012, 09:53 AM)
the suttas can only help to an extent. What really helps is seeing the peta as another being in samsara who only wants relief from his constant suffering. If you're aware of its suffering the fear goes away and because he knows you care for him, he wont harm you. That's a better protection.
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ya... that's why i prefer metta (read care for him) over paritta, petas r not evil beings. if he needs merits, then we should perform good deeds in his honour and dedicate those merits to him to lessen his sufferings

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post Jan 16 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 16 2012, 08:22 AM)
31 planes of existence... where are we going ah after this ?
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hell, most likely
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post Jan 20 2012, 12:39 PM

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zstan, u're very knowledgeable. can i join your class/center/school of thought/guru/dharma activities? where?

on a nother note, someone mentioned about how kechara is. here's my 2 cents, it is very engaging, they r an active organization constantly spreading dharma with such skilful means via its impressive 13 departments. u can find their main office in dataran prima, somewhere thereabouts. ayam impressed with their dedication to their teacher HE Tsem Tulku Rinpoche and to Buddhism.
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post Jan 20 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 20 2012, 12:53 PM)
Nah my knowledge in buddhism still rather limited. I am more interested in the practical aspects of Buddhism rather than all those suttas. I also hardly practice meditation. The only thing that i practice diligently is being mindful...until it becomes really annoying especially when i try to sleep... as my brain calms down i can hear every single noise in the room..from the clock ticking..things creaking here and there and even my heart beat  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
i fully understand that. if we can b mindful for even a minute, that is like.. hmm... yeah it gets annoying i always have problem noting my annoyance


I am currently not attached to any particular organisation or teacher (following Buddha's advise of not being attached tongue.gif )I used to go to Maha Vihara at brickfields for sunday school since primary... learning theravada stuff.. then moving to chempaka buddhist lodge where i am exposed to to mahayana teachings... then during my pre u days there are many speakers from different backgrounds who come and give talks.. for the past few years i've also help to conduct activities for a group under YBAM and SJBA as well so technically i go everywhere as long as there is an opportunity and when i have time  laugh.gif  and no i don't have any particular guru that i am close with =/ cool

p.s: kechara is at Sunwaymas, to be more specific.. dataran prima is slightly further away... yes u r right, i always forgot the name sunwaymas and remember dataran prima instead
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post Jan 20 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 01:43 PM)
Where did you learn you dhamma last time when you were young? At penang?

I only discovered it like 4 years ago.
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yes, penang. i used to go PBA sunday school during kindy and later mahindarama. was very active with the youth department at one point. and also from my school buddhist society. after coming to KL, my practice has been downhill to put it plainly sweat.gif imma shy guy really, i miss all my buddhist friends in penang. i'm shy to go to any centre alone in KL i can't help it.

i'm impressed with kechara really. and i hope theravada can do something like that. in terms of commitment, i've never seen better

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post Jan 20 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 01:51 PM)
i also very shy shy.... I got phobia of crowds
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for someone who only stumbled upon it 4 years ago, u're quite knowledgeable about buddhism generally and theravada specifically smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 02:02 PM)
Well still a lot to learn. But practice wise not much success.
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Am I dihetuka ?
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why? u're a success in my eyes. just have to keep going

what's dihetuka? hmm.gif
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post Jan 20 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 02:14 PM)
Tihetuka - individuals born with 3 good roots  (non-hatred, non-greed, non-delusion) during the current rebirth.  If got enough paramita, and if he strives can attain Jhanas or Magga/Phala.

Dihetuka - individuals with 2 good roots , but lack another one . This one practice until die cannot enlighten but the current good kamma may enable him to be 3 rooted beings in next life. The maximum can go is Access Concentration (in samatha) and some lower Nanas (in vipassana). Cannot attain Jhanas or Sotapatti Magga.

Ahetuka - individuals with no good roots , either born retarded, or without complete sense faculties to comprehend the dhamma, or born into the evil destinies. This one due to unfortunate maturation of evil kamma from the past life that clouds the individuals mind.
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oh... completely forgotten about this. i guess u r one. i knew of a monk who gave up his robes in order to be more engaging and move more freely to teach meditation, dhamma because he wan't getting anywhere with his meditative experience. according to him, his practice met a stumbling block due to his strong kammic barrier stopping him from breaking the threshold to higher experiences.

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post Jan 20 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 02:25 PM)
From this website
types of individuals
For academic discussion purpose, is it the reason why retreat normally is at least 7 days duration?
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great info there.

uhmm... not sure about that. but my friend told me it's because beginners will need at least 2-3days to 'settle down'. 4th-7th day is where the real work begins. i did however heard from my teacher who said that according to a sayadaw from a meditation center said that some yogis did achieve 'enlightenment' during the 7th day and these yogis became so withdrawn from society that they cant function like they'd normally would in society. hence, one or two (not sure) went back and asked for the robes. during yogi interviews, the said sayadaw ascertained their attainment

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post Jan 20 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 02:42 PM)
Well isn't that good if one becomes stream enterer? so happy la... next life enjoice sure go heaven or become human....

But I agree with you. Some individuals  may have problem in their sex life too.. because their sensual desire is so much reduced already after they attain Magga or even Jhanas.
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It is good. for me, i'm scared of hell, heaven and even enlightenment although i know i'm far from it. the irony

i have a problem with lust, how to solve?





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post Jan 20 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 02:59 PM)
Me too man. I scared my evil kamma will mature to put me to apayalokas (no choice lor if happen). Hope if i ever go there it will be a short stay

have you tried 32 parts of body? and the asubhas (rotting coarpses)

32 parts is very good but cannot do so often....
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32 parts yes. asubhas no. 32 parts is tricky coz when i get to the 'lungs' part, guess what happen? doh.gif there were a few times i wish i'm asexual, no gender. yeah i know, mindfucuking doh.gif
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post Jan 20 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 20 2012, 03:01 PM)
i believe if you are talking about the sects of Tibetan buddhism there's more than two.. as i know there's the white colour and some other colour as well...
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yes u r right.
Nyingma - Red Hat, Kagyu - Black Hat, Sakya - Red Hat, Gelug - Yellow Hat (of which Dalai Lama is one)

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post Jan 20 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 03:33 PM)
wow.

Can share how to do 32 parts? I do the surface only. Haven't tried going into the deeper organs...

I heard do too much can make aura become very dark...
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ya u do the surface first, it's called 'sweeping', then move on to the organs by visualising and zoning in your own organs, one at a time in any order or by grouping of organs. not really complicated but as i've said hmm... nevermind sweat.gif . i think u'd get a better result than me

i didn't do much to accumulate dark aura, so i dont know. sorry smile.gif

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post Jan 20 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Jan 20 2012, 03:39 PM)
Yes that's true. I was talking about the most famous two because they both clashed militarily before, then the Yellow Hat achieved victory and began proselytizing in Mongolia.

Before converting to Islam, the Uyghur belonged to one of Buddhism sect too.

One question, I heard during the Tang Dynasty, one emperor sent a monk to India to obtain the Sutras. Is it  a true story?
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non of the fighting is important, fighting is due to misunderstanding and egos really. if u take away those fighting, their teachings in essence is the dhamma that Buddha taught. every school/sect has their own problems/ghosts to fight. don let all the fighting cloud your judgement on what is more important, you in relation to the world you live in. don let nila setitik, rosak susu sebelangga.

the story is just a story, true or not has no special importance to me. some of its lessons are quite good which we can take as example.

u see, what we heard and read may or may not be true. hence, i urge you to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalama_Sutta

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post Jan 20 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Jan 20 2012, 04:10 PM)
no regular practice how to be good, hahaha.

just remember that even for one breath while in samatha, for that one breath you're in concentration. then you keep up with the second breath, then the third, then the fourth.
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yes the keyword is regular. nod.gif
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post Jan 20 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 04:15 PM)
I quite regular ler but still don't see much result. OK, results maybe got in having more saddha (faith) and the path I am walking. Less anxiety. Maybe more understanding of buddhism.

But vipassana nanas or jhanas no wor - maybe i am dihetuka ler? 2 good roots only ? hmm.gif
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supplement n balance your practice with the other dosa kusala kamma
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post Jan 20 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 04:20 PM)
dear all,

do you think watching porn/masturbating and playing video games is not good for cultivation of the mind?
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Yess. they r addictions and they create negative imprints in our mind.

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