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hotjake
post Jan 20 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 20 2012, 04:23 PM)
oh crap.
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don worry, u're not alone

brohug, lol

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post Jan 20 2012, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Jan 20 2012, 04:40 PM)
Fighting caused death and misery to the people. They are not fighting ghost, but real people, sir. Buddha never condoned spilling the blood of anyone, let alone an innocent.

Religion is superflous I think. Even the open mindedness of Buddhism can transform into bigotry.

So, the monk really went to India and brought back the scriptures, then translated all of them?
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what i mean is the fighting in the past is the past. what can you do about the current fighting in the present, that is the more urgent question u and i must answer. u can't just simply equate their fighting with the truly sincere teachers around the world who are of tibetan background, can u? yes, Buddha never condoned. neither did i justify their killing each other, did i? for me, i rather not judge them, why would u?

yes it can turn to bigotry.

you only need to trace the Tibetan scriptures involved to know the truth. u might want to ask joey kun on this. he's more knowledgeable on this

hope that helps

pardon me for my lack of knowledge

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post Feb 24 2012, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jan 21 2012, 08:37 AM)
Ok so u c, Tao teaching is another part of continent and both seem no influence of each other during different time am I right? they have incorporated buddhism by installing buddhas as their own deities

Just finish reading the Tripitaka. Theravada Buddhism is the origin of Buddhism right, what about Mahayana , it.s has been manipulated? Mahayana has its similar texts to the Tipitaka called the Agamas. It was then translated into Mandarin and evolved and centred into Boddhisatta ideals.
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u finished reading the tripitaka? motherofgod.jpg

how long did that take you? if it's in english version, which version?

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post Jul 8 2014, 05:33 PM

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reporting in so i can play chess, drink tea and talk zen with joemamak
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post Mar 31 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(wayne93 @ Mar 30 2016, 02:18 PM)
Which one is among the active one?
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finding the one convenient to your location would work best i think
mind telling where u live?
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post Dec 31 2018, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 30 2018, 09:02 AM)
To reach enlightenment, one needs to meditate.

There are those who can be enlightened (stream enterer) by just hearing a very short discourse from the Buddha directly, but those individuals no longer exist in the world today.

Those who remains today are of 2 types
- those who need to practice meditation from 7 days to many years to reach at least the lowest state
- those who cannot attain enlightenment in this life.

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meditating alone is not enough (even when done correctly, earnestly, ardently). otherwise, it'd be named the noble one-fold path, rather than 8-fold. the rest of the component practices compliment each other, aids, strengthens the understanding thereby the practice.

happy new year, may u be well and happy
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post Dec 31 2018, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 31 2018, 04:45 PM)
Granted all path factors had to be present and the paramita sufficient for one to gain breakthrough in meditation.

But it's always good to try. We cannot assume we are the Padapadama individuals (who cannot enlighten this life).  There are among us, who are Neyya , who can be enlightened in this very life but due to insufficient effort, cannot.

The effort is never wasted, as it will become paramita itself for future birth's meditative capability.

sekian
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bolded are all true indeed. hence i merely added on to your earlier points


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post Sep 30 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Aug 11 2020, 05:26 PM)
It was based on teaching by Deepak Chopra. Meditation concept mostly came from Hindus n Yogis. U can find many similarities between Buddhist meditation n Yoga/Hindu meditation. Almost the same thing.

Buddhists usually learn this from monks in monastery or Buddhist centres. Especially Chaan Sect (Can Zong). This is better
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while they share similarities in terms of origins/objects of meditations, they are fundamentally different because Buddhism teaches anatta which runs contrary to Hinduism's concept of soul whose goal is moksha. i.e. reunification with the Godhead. Buddhism's goal is cessation of the endless rounds of suffering without a reunification of sorts.
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post Sep 30 2020, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Sep 30 2020, 03:11 PM)
Moksha means to b free, liberated, released from the samsara of death n rebirth cycle. Same in Buddhism.

Buddha taught us to detach from ‘self’ n b selfless (unselfish) when performing dana (giving), indiscriminate compassion... all Hearer, Self-Realizer n Bodhisattva have to abide by this in order to reach full awakening. Buddhism also taught that the mind n body is not u. From self to no self (无我) one has to recognise that one’s identity n sense of self r all perceived n constructed. Break free from self one sees the true self. Then break from the perception of phenomena n emptiness one attains full awakening. True self is not without soul. You r still ther. Just in different state.

A common method used in practising the way of specific Buddha or Bodhisattva is chant (念), pray(求), learn (学) n do (做). The last word ‘do’ is literally ‘become’ as any practicing Buddhist would naturally know. That’s union. Some monks visualise they went to ‘unite’ w Amitabha through his toes during their sleep. When they wakes up their soul exits Amitabha’s toes n return to the saha world to continue the mission to ‘awaken’ human beings
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union in its many forms including your last paragraph is attachment i.e. attachment to a Buddha or a concept of it, which is to be abandoned altogether for true liberation. apart from "void of self", anatta is also "void of soul". in its subliminal sense, when the 4 foundations are well established together with noble 8 fold path, it leads one on the path to see reality as Buddha has seen: anicca, dukkha, anatta. this is why buddhism sets itself apart from hinduism
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post Sep 30 2020, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Sep 30 2020, 05:18 PM)
Being obsessed w emptiness is also attachment or obsession. One cannot say emptiness is nothingness. In Buddhism, emptiness is not existence n not nothingness; not having existence n no nothingness, n also not no existence n no nothingness. This is what Chan is imparting for generations. Some ppl understand this immediately, some gradually. But knowing is one thing. Practising it is another. Becoming it is final liberation
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bolded true. ultimately it is to be abandoned in practice

of course knowing is one thing and knowing after experiencing the various levels/thresholds of reality is another. the difference is day and night to put it mildly.

good explanation nonetheless

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