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Joey-kun
post Aug 20 2010, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:23 AM)
@Joey

Finally thread reopened.

Was about to ask you on the *crap what I want to ask ady*

Any idea on which mantra the 'Da Bei Zhou' was derived from?
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the mantra is a transliteration of sanskrit to mandrin.

mantras cannot be translated as they produce certain vibrations in the body when chanted. These are the vibrations that heal and produce various effects.
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post Aug 20 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:41 AM)
I mean, erm, the name of the mantra in sanskrit.  tongue.gif
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i am not sure because there is no tibetan sources for that mantra. perhaps the lineage of that mantra only made it to china but not tibet.
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:45 AM)
Hmm interesting as I'd been looking around and too many so-called 'explanation' that I don't even know what that mantra means.

Wanted to know what is it that the mantra actually trying to convey.
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master hsuan hua has written a commentary and explanation of the mantra. Apparently it invokes all 84 different forms of Avalokiteshvara according to some sources, but i feel it is meant to invoke his energy through the mantra.
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:53 AM)
The invocation of the 84 different types of protectors is what I'd heard.

That's why I wanna make sure the true thing behind it. Commentary eh... I'll try to look around. Got source for it?
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anyways i found this online: http://www.nalanda-university.com/buddhist...-da-bei-jou.htm

may help
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post Aug 20 2010, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 20 2010, 10:17 AM)
THere is no Mantra in Theravada Buddhism, but there are chants called Parittas which are basically the quotes of the words of the Buddha recorded in the sutta.  The monks will sometimes chant these Parittas to offer protection, but the actual working of paritas are the reflection in the mind of the person who recite or hear it.  Arahant Nagasena noted that certain parittas recited at the shrine of the great arahants (where the relics are located) , if accompanied by Saddha (faith) , certain miracles may happen. 

For example, in times where a person encountered a lot of hatred in daily life, he may visit a monk to seek advice. The monk may recite the Loving Kindness sutta (metta) , which is actually the words of the Buddha himself . Normally, in temples, the translation of the Paritta (recited in Pali) will be given to the devotee so that he will understand what the monks is reciting.
Hope this helps
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in Tibetan Buddhism Om Ah Hum is used as a general mantra to represent the Buddha's body, speech and mind. Mantras can invoke the energies of certain Buddhas or Bodhisattvas and it is said that even a paper written with the mantra can be regarded as the actual Buddha.

in Theravarda, sutras and paritas are recited instead and sutras like the metta sutta are meant to be actualized in daily life while the recitation serves as a reminder for those who recite them to do so.

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post Aug 20 2010, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Ahsin1987 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:23 AM)
Buddhist sooooo deep , i don't understand a thing what u guys talking about  rclxub.gif
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for everything else, there is wiki ™
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post Aug 20 2010, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 20 2010, 10:29 AM)
Yep, do you know that the hindu mantra also start with "ohm" ?
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Ohm is a Sanskrit term that means complete, finished or done if I am not mistaken.
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Om is just a sanskrit syllable but it can also be used to represent other things like in this case, the Buddha's body. makes sense since words are used to represent things, why cant they represent a Buddha's body?

QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:34 AM)
I see. Thanks.

BTW, from the article I'm reading, it is mentioned that:

Recite this mantra 5 times

Recite the Dharani 21 times

What is the difference with the above 2?
Will read thanks.

Am reading this actually: http://www.fodian.net/world/dabei_sutra.htm
Ohm sathi?
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A mantra that is longer than 10 lines is known as Dharani. Mantras are supposed to be short and to be recited in 1 breath.
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:48 AM)
Oh, then:

Then Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva told the Brahmas: "Recite this Mantra 5 times, use threads of 5 colors to tie knots, then recite the Dharani 21 times, tie 21 knots, wear it on neck. This Mantra has been spoken by previous 9.9 billions Ganges-river-sands Buddhas.

Means...?
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Instructions on how to reap the maximum benefit from the mantra recitation. however in reality altruistic intentions as well as sincerity would be more than enough.

I recite a few mantras: basically my Guru His Eminence Tsem Tulku Rinpoche's mantra, Manjushri's mantra and the food offering mantra.

Related: http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpo...-good-read.html

what are Pujas about: long and detailed explanation.

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:53 AM)
I should be more specific:

Since the article is in regards to explaining the Great Compassion Mantra, how does it differ when it comes to reciting mantra 5 times and dharani 21 times? That is the part that I don't get it.

Oh Manjushri. Hard to memorise for me, or rather haven't really remembered it.
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the Dharani should be the 84 line one while the mantra should be the shorter version.

Manjushri is just Om Ah Ra Pa Sa Na Dhi. Not hard at all. In Tibet kids who recite it become really sharp and good in their studies. I've heard some malaysian kids who recited around 100,000 of it as a retreat got straight As for every exam.

I just like saying the mantra tongue.gif
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:57 AM)
Which shorter version? I want to the the quoted one actually tongue.gif

Interesting. Should restore some faith in me by doing so.

Maybe I should start the manjushri mantra again. (I knew about it a bit too late during my finals T_T if not day and night I recite XD)
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for your exams i recommend this one for a clear and sharp mind:

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 11:14 AM)
Graduated and working already lor. laugh.gif But will need to use this soon I guess laugh.gif

Thanks bro.

*edit: BTW, do you need to recite the English texts as well?
Metta sutra? Hmm gotta look around
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yes we recite most of the texts in english. mantras only in tibetan.

we also do meditations as well as guided by prayers called Sadhanas.
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 11:18 AM)
Oh, English also work? Never knew.

I thought it's normally in sanskrit D:
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for certain prayers we can only reap the full benefit only if we know what it means as some of them are meant to be practiced according to the prayers/
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 11:21 AM)
Hmmm sad.gif I no sifu. So learn basics only.
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its fine everyone has to start somewhere smile.gif

i dun mind helping out to share more tho. i cant teach.
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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Aug 20 2010, 11:41 AM)
Haiz this topic kena corrupt ady. Can't even read nice stuff here. cry.gif
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lol what were you expecting
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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Aug 20 2010, 12:30 PM)
Ban chezzball 1st. Top corrupter. Why?

1. No respect.
2. Fanatic christian fight in buddhist thread as just like racist to japanese a topic she create.
3. Make own question self answering but wrongly and will miss guide buddhist.
4. Impatient, simply show off anger.
5. Never had self experience before but answer thing from TV she watch.
6. High IQ but no EQ, four sure completely nobody like such people if no EQ.
7. Forcing people to answer.
8. Who she think she is?
9. Want to learn, also want to disbelieve and put her christianity hammer in, how to learn?
10. Cannot cooperate.

If I'm the paster I will kick you out of the church as opposite if you wanna bring you buddhist hammer in. If people already talk about you then you should talk nicely. As for your 1st post you already slam your hammer in and we still reply you. Nevermind la low EQ will not understand others feeling.

PS: You're mad
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just let her be la. no point trying to add oil to the fire. have forgiveness
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post Aug 20 2010, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 03:03 PM)
^ wall of text, but nice info

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BTW, does listening to mantras help although you're not reciting it?
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it does but not as good as if you recited it.
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QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 03:16 PM)
the thread reads retreat but there is no information whatsoever about retreats. user posted image

anyone interested for a short length retreat (10days+) let's discuss about it. we can zerg rush kuantan's dhamma malaya or penang's MBMC.
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the most important retreat is the one you do in your daily life when facing people tongue.gif

restraining urself shouldnt only be in a retreat but also in daily life and in every moment. huhuhuu

if before and after retreat no difference then retreat is wasted sad.gif

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QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 03:30 PM)
no no no, this is your lazy you speaking. tongue.gif

do a retreat like a robot and come out and see how much easier it is to practice the dhamma. also see how all the bad things you did comes back to you full force when you sit, it's a very nice feedback loop.
yea, only once and it was goenka's. i didn't prepare well so the first few days were unnecessarily painful.
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so how can you gurantee that you doing retreat is not to hide from your problems?

and if you come out of the retreat and you find that you offend more people etc whats the point? The whole point is so that you get to train your mind to not harm others wat. also you gib bad PR: peepur see see say u sot sot after retreat u suka ka?

i've done a prostration retreat before. 10k prostrations over 3 weeks. sakit but still ok. Really gave me time to change my way of thinking and seeing things..

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QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 03:47 PM)
if you've really sit before, you'd know it's far from hiding from your own problems.
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Oh i've done retreats before. And i continue to do it after the retreat smile.gif by holding the same mentality while dealing with people.


QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 03:49 PM)
Does it help to release the previous sins done?
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in a way yes because you disassociate away from the type of thinking that allows the 'sins' to manifest.


QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 20 2010, 04:06 PM)
I attended a retreat before. It was good.  All demons in the closet.... hu hu..
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its like colon cleansing right? you can see the poop in your colon through the machine. while having a tube up your ass to suck them out huhuhu

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 04:13 PM)
I want to try, but...
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just try. it could be a life changing experience


QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 04:14 PM)
it's nice to instigate to expose a person's ego but i'll make sure i'm an attained rinpoche first before i do that.
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lol who's so free to expose yours? i'm still checking if mine is harming others sad.gif you manage your own wan lah

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