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jeffvip
post Jun 16 2011, 10:28 AM

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FB in BW is something like reaper, u can hardly see terran player produce more than 3. unless there are a noob zerg player goin mass ling
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post Jun 16 2011, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Jun 16 2011, 10:54 AM)
alot since it is stressful to fight a terran in ladder
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Terran are not suppose to beat Protoss

ps: copy from Idra (Zerg arent suppose to beat Protoss)


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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jun 16 2011, 09:44 AM)
u butthurt?
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post Jun 16 2011, 03:10 PM

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MM is too easy to deal as a zerg player. Baneling is enough to kill every MM Terran throw at you.
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post Jun 16 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Jun 16 2011, 03:12 PM)
what is MM>
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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Jun 16 2011, 03:22 PM)
1) get a nice wall-off. make it a habit to wall with production buildings I.e. rax, fact etc and not depot.

2) put bunkers behind those walls. High econ blings bust will still kill your front wall, but the linga runby can be dealt with if there are enough bunkers.

3) get siege mode out asap.

Of course, the most important thing is to scout and see it coming. Scout his natural to check the drone saturation. And if you see a lot of lings wandering outside your perimeter, it normally indicates blings bust aggression is coming.

Normally if you can survive til you have siege mode you will be in good position. After that just marines drop his naked base and claim your victory.
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post Jun 16 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 16 2011, 03:48 PM)
honestly the answer lies in continous pressure against zerg...
disrupt their droning till u tech up (tanks, medics) and hit a timing on the zerg...

example: 2 rax bunker while expanding -> marine shield timing -> marine tank timing -> drops everywhere
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MMA revolution

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I come to a conclusion that Terran game winning move depends heavily on the timing attack. Miss it, usually will lose. when 200 toss vs 200 terran, GG'ed for Terran... 200 Terran vs 200 Zerg, usually terran win 1st round but zerg can replenish their army in minutes(imagine 10 ultralisk produce at the same time), GG'ed for Terran also. So REMEMBER THE TERRAN TIMING!!! don't move out too late
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post Jun 17 2011, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jun 17 2011, 01:00 PM)
who........................enjoys being banshee raped..
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i just being raped. cry.gif lunch time break not good cry.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 08:01 PM

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Damn, Terran discussion thread really a trolling thread. I'm I the 1 who start the troll in this thread 1st?
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post Jun 28 2011, 02:16 PM

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When mmm vs zealot, sentries and stalker. Which unit usually u target fire 1st?
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post Jun 28 2011, 02:33 PM

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I always aim sentries 1st after that only kite zealot... is that ok?
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post Jun 28 2011, 09:58 PM

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So killing sentries 1st only kite might be a better way. Let me try it out when I'm back to penang.

Btw, did my fellow Terran here always play macro games against Protoss?
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post Jun 29 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jun 29 2011, 02:23 AM)
i always Macro Bio Based. basicallly marauder medivac ghost but always lose. lose until sked adi. on even food, ur army just evaporates. since Kaiz <3 says his greatest nightmare is MBR Tank all in, imma master it now.

but the safest build i had did till now is 2 rax FE which smetimes i will still lose to some stupid immortal based all in.
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I usually go for 3 rax timing into sim timing then drops timing... Macro means lose. I might wanna try mbrt asap
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post Jun 29 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 29 2011, 12:29 PM)
thats what jeff asked.
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Yup, I concern only in early game. If pvt goes into mid game or late game, terran better gg earlier to save energy. Nowadays, protoss even optimizing their warp prism which is great for protoss actually. Something I don see alot of pro doing it also
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post Jun 29 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 29 2011, 02:04 PM)
So much qq and no pew pew...
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What is this? R u sure u comment the right things on the right thread?

This is a strategy thread. Protoss have the advantage when it comes to mid or late game. Strategically, terran would like to avoid, not what qq or pp. so in order to maximise the chance of winning, terran gotta do an early game push. What we discuss is in the correct path d. That conversation bout protoss strong at mid n late game is to enhance the needs of prioritize the killing of early game protoss unit that are vital for us to win game.
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post Jun 29 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jun 29 2011, 02:03 PM)
That ghey chao song?
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Dude, u here? Now I'm in bukit bintang for 2 days training course. Which bar or club can get laid? Recommend to me la. This is your area of expertise d.
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post Jun 29 2011, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Jun 29 2011, 06:50 PM)
do u think this is the right thread to ask for it?
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Why not? This is a human strategy thread. Getting laid is one of the human strategy. U know I Agreed with u that marauder is the strongest early game unit d right? Then op terran discussion finished d.

I have no interest to see what's evo is writing also bcos I confirmed what he write is certain the opposite of what I wrote here, so do I need to continue that conversation anymore? Better spending my time to get laid tonight
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post Jun 30 2011, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 29 2011, 11:12 PM)

thread aside, i dont think fuj would be the right person to ask either.
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You are the expert here? Why don't u reply me earlier? Haiz, now drinking hoegaarden at bon ton only. sad.gif
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post Jun 30 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(tcheepin @ Jun 30 2011, 10:57 AM)
OIC thanks thanks. Ya MRB Tank is very easy to use but not everyone can master it.

I like banshee also. But just use tank for defend and raven for detector. Then banshee for harrasssement. 2 PDD and 10 basnshee at mineral line can at least snipe one natural base down.
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Quest, what is your mrbt build order? How bout big map then?
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post Jun 30 2011, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Jun 30 2011, 10:48 AM)
hahahahaha.... i am starting to like tis guy
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R u girl? If u r plz give me your facebook. tongue.gif
QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Jun 30 2011, 12:16 PM)
any1 wanna game 2nite??? find me at Nerdlings channel lolz
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Cool, let me test my mbrt build but usually my bro will be playing my account. I think I reach penang also 11 something d
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post Jun 30 2011, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jun 30 2011, 01:30 PM)
umm........a 1 base MBRT is awful in terms of econ. basically 1-1-1 reactor barracks constant marine, techlab factory siege tank, research siege tank when ur 2nd tank is about half way done, make 3 siege tanks. starport techlab 1st unit raven, then 2 uncloak banshee.

make 1 hellion b4 putting techlab and use that hellion to scout. the timing should be right when zealot stalker come out to harrass you, if you can miraclely avoid them and go str8 into probe line, sometimes u can secure ur win right there. true story, i had 2 protoss rage quit for 1 hellion b4.

move out when you have 3 siege tnaks, 2 banshee, 1 raven. the best timing is siege mode is done when u reach the front door of protoss. throw down PDD, make 2 bunkers, siege up. thats about it.

but i dun like it, you are basically dead if you cant kill him cuz u were in 1 base for so long.
theres a 2 base variant of MBRT did by MVP. he likes to do that on shakuras plataue and tal darim altar. i think i saw 2 TvP of him at tal darim, both doing the exact same thing. 1 rax FE, take 4 gas, make factory starport and push out. it hits much later and requires more skill to pull it off IMO but its not an all in, you can transition out easier.


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u know..........................................how hard isit to get 10 banshee at the same time? the amount of gas you put into it you prolly dont have any ground army.
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This is the consequences of 1 base play, but is ok, I rather take this bet. Thanks for the bo tips. What is your winning ratio against protoss after master this build?
QUOTE(FLampard @ Jun 30 2011, 02:12 PM)
when i say like i mean you are funny and creative in your post and also you have a good knowledge and willing to share it.

not that kind of "like" your having in mind.

btw

im a guy..didnt know girls play starcraft
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Jk jk of course, I appreciate your comments.

Off topic, u like chelsea? Planning to watch their match at bukit jalil? I will be watching arsenal this july
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post Jun 30 2011, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jun 30 2011, 07:49 PM)
no, i havent try this build recently. although i did this for a few weeks last year. it was a very old build, the tasteless build. its too all inish i stop doing that for a long time. i would love to juggle around with the 2 base build though...if i can 1 rax FE safely....

my problem in tvp now is how to survive protoss aggression in eco build with minimal damage. and how to transition to ANY build other than marauder viking lol

its up to micro ALOT and cant let protoss create the BALL no matter its a gateway ball or robo ball or wtv ball. protoss synergy is too good.
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