if ur trying to marine rush and still thinking of maintaining a good win rate to stay in plat and gold, its a bad idea. learn to play.

SO, if u marine rush back him, u r trading marine for marine. -.- do a normal rax refinery than factory. u saw marine rush incoming, make a bunker at ramp, factory make siege tank and siege mode. once ur siege is up, u win the game. just start producing blue flame hellions and push out wif them.

you need liquipedia bookmarked in your browser Flampard.

type proxy in liquipedia

bagi nama, i pegi try this imba terran.

really good players shine in tvt because theres no racial imbalance and you cant exploit timings. in mirror match up, everyone is fair, no1 started wif advantage, its really up to ur skill to win ur opponent.

jeff, if you want to win only, learn Slayers_onebase. 1-1-1 marine sieged tank cloak banshee crawl.

too bad BFH is too good right now its almost impossible to 1 rax FE without suffering BFH drop killing you....unless you got PoltPrime's bio micro...see how he guard all his mineral lines wif minimal bio

i've nvr did 75 games per day b4....

highest record 50 games on sat, 90 games from sat-sun

lol, even MC cant. u probably didnt do it as good as EGPuma.

obviously a GM protoss can win a plat terran doing 1-1-1.

111 is strong because when both party are about the same skill level and terran didnt make a big blunder, protoss will have a hard time to stop it.

famous PvT anti 111 build i've seen is standard 1 gate fe into robo OR

recently seen some SEA gm games
1 gate fe into mass gateways...forcefields are pretty good

so sad for protoss. as all the pros had said, protoss need to guess in PvT

AND

take huge risk just to even out...

cuz its like, you need to go for a specific build to win 1-1-1, but ur opponent can just fake a 1-1-1 and punish you.

a nice little TvP build for fellow terran brethen.

1 rax gas build, hide ur 2nd rax at far end of ur base. float ur 1st rax away and make reactor. make a bunker in front, show only marines at ur ramp. 2nd rax wif techlab research stimpack, then grenade. push out at 50 food with 10 scv.

if the protoss went for a 1 gate fe into robo, impossible he can hold.

how can charge be complete when a 23 food stim rush vs a 1 gate FE into robo, 2 more gates, out obs, get twilight, get charge

and with 5-10 scv soak the dmg and make 2 bunkers at choke to stream zealots, it would be devastating

maybe my league is lower, opponent not that pro yet

i chobo dno top lvl timing.

team games i only play when my friend ask me to play....played less than 3 4v4s, a few 3v3s and quite alot of 2v2s.

make marauder.

if your strategy does not have marauder in it (wants tank or banshee tech), make a bunker at put ur marine in it. repair them.

well, use drone to right click queen also work in ZvZ.

thats not abusing ai, since ur opponent actually micro-ed, you should micro to hit their attacking unit too....

in BW, the ai are more a pain the ass, some fked up unit like dragoon cant even walk properly.

well, they do look very alike, my bw friends tot they are the same kind of unit. well, i thought so too in the beginning...

well, i think what jeff meant earlier was run by ling to min line then press hold position. even in GSL game u see that. because when u have a troop of 30 lings, its not effective to right click 1 by 1, if u press hold position, they will attack those scv who pass by them. but u can do it for like 2-3 sec only cuz opponent will run their scv away.

the good ol problem of PvT, no good way of scouting/dectector.

because of TvT now i had alot of afternoon naps.

not sure if i had but probably no. there are so expensive and the damage is so low...

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Added on September 24, 2011, 7:51 pmu cant kill alot of stuff wif only 1 nuke....cant even 1 shot tanks. dun think can 1 shot supply depot too :?

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Sep 24 2011, 07:51 PM

ummm, watch TLO stream, he use mech in tvt.

smtg like this.
proxy rax, expand behind it with 2 factory pumping hellions.
fast starport for vikings.

fast 3rd OC (35-50 food), either proxy or just inside ur base.

then thor. u need thor and hellion in early-mid to survive, tanks are too immobile and not that good in small number. then only slowly transition into tanks.

the keyword is relatively pro.