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jeffvip
post Aug 1 2011, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Aug 1 2011, 05:53 PM)
well, actually b4 this MLG, the koreans had been doing alot of hellion plays just that only in MLG, enuf foreigners can see this build....

anyway, IMO the build jeffyip posted can be refined abit...do a normal reactor expand build, 1 rax 1 gas 1 factory, make reactor at rax, make CC, swap factory with rax for the reactor, rax make techlab factory make 1 set of hellion. when 1 set of hellion is done, techlab is done too, swap add ons. expand and make starport. use initial 2 hellions to poke. then from then on its the same as jeff.

the only diff is make 1 set of hellion, IIRC its the perfect timing. at least b4 i stop playing starcraft.....the micro execution had been well described by jeff.

roach play rapes this build but you can transition into 3 rax (all marauder) 1 reactor factory play. which RAPESSSSSSSSSSSSS zergs without muta. (roach = no muta)
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quest_5692
post Aug 1 2011, 08:44 PM

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add me on facebook brah. haha, im damn active there lol. search quest ng lives in KL, malaysia
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post Aug 1 2011, 10:13 PM

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add me on facebook brah. haha, im damn active there lol. search quest ng lives in KL, malaysia
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post Aug 2 2011, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Aug 1 2011, 05:53 PM)
well, actually b4 this MLG, the koreans had been doing alot of hellion plays just that only in MLG, enuf foreigners can see this build....

anyway, IMO the build jeffyip posted can be refined abit...do a normal reactor expand build, 1 rax 1 gas 1 factory, make reactor at rax, make CC, swap factory with rax for the reactor, rax make techlab factory make 1 set of hellion. when 1 set of hellion is done, techlab is done too, swap add ons. expand and make starport. use initial 2 hellions to poke. then from then on its the same as jeff.

the only diff is make 1 set of hellion, IIRC its the perfect timing. at least b4 i stop playing starcraft.....the micro execution had been well described by jeff.

roach play rapes this build but you can transition into 3 rax (all marauder) 1 reactor factory play. which RAPESSSSSSSSSSSSS zergs without muta. (roach = no muta)
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why roach = no muta??

i thought they can build spire and roach waren too...?

btw what is micro liao?

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jeffvip
post Aug 2 2011, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Aug 2 2011, 12:43 PM)
why roach = no muta??

i thought they can build spire and roach waren too...?

btw what is micro liao?
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u might want to ignore this build currently... just focus on improving your basic mechanics of TvZ like timing, marine, tank 1st. Without certain micro& mechanics, this build will be own hard by pure roaches (which is common on > Silver level)

btw, muta is not good to defend (especially against Marine). In this case, Terran is the aggressor so Zerg need units to defend. Micro is the ability to control small amount of unit to create the best result. Like avoiding baneling with marine or move-attack-move to kill a probe with just 1 marine.
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post Aug 2 2011, 07:16 PM

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well, when you create roach, roach eats gas, so you will have not enuf gas for muta! easy lol...if you see only pure zergling, where did all the gas go? building spire and muta! smile.gif

see, 1 base 2 gas can only provide 200+ gas per minute, which means for every 8 roaches you make, you are delaying your muta timing by 1 minute smile.gif not to mention you might want to upgrade ur roaches....
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post Aug 5 2011, 10:34 AM

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ZenexByun is following me... that was so cool.... damn it. That's why I always support him

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post Aug 5 2011, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Aug 5 2011, 10:34 AM)
ZenexByun is following me... that was so cool.... damn it. That's why I always support him
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f*** i want that too...........i support players who are friend with me in fb and had replied my tweets b4.
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post Aug 5 2011, 02:55 PM

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Wow that's damn cool! I guess he actually found out about your impressive slayers zerg killing build and wanna learn something from you!
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post Aug 5 2011, 04:32 PM

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yea... I'm actually Slayers Cella. I have solve the mystery of Zerg d. Now is the time I need to come up kill the abusive build for those OP Toss.


Added on August 5, 2011, 4:37 pmNeed to jump completely to SC2 d. damn. Today's market red like hell... I Kena cut very deep. cry.gif

Tonight gotta starcraft all night long (Boxer vs Yellow in btwn of course). Any Terran wanna train TvT tonight? Let's blue flame it all the way

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post Aug 5 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Aug 5 2011, 04:32 PM)
yea... I'm actually Slayers Cella. I have solve the mystery of Zerg d. Now is the time I need to come up kill the abusive build for those OP Toss.


Added on August 5, 2011, 4:37 pmNeed to jump completely to SC2 d. damn. Today's market red like hell... I Kena cut very deep.  cry.gif

Tonight gotta starcraft all night long (Boxer vs Yellow in btwn of course). Any Terran wanna train TvT tonight? Let's blue flame it all the way
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lol, if we had happen to chat about econ b4, would have suggested you to withdraw ASAP....kinda called today's fall last week when we were in-class-debating US's decision to raise debt ceiling. did some research for that topic, market confidence is too low, drastic movements will just worsen the situation and make it happen faster :/ the only thing out of my prediction is it would react this fast...
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post Aug 5 2011, 06:36 PM

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jeffvip is so OP
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post Aug 5 2011, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Aug 5 2011, 04:45 PM)
lol, if we had happen to chat about econ b4, would have suggested you to withdraw ASAP....kinda called today's fall last week when we were in-class-debating US's decision to raise debt ceiling. did some research for that topic, market confidence is too low, drastic movements will just worsen the situation and make it happen faster :/ the only thing out of my prediction is it would react this fast...
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I really like my E&O.. I'm buying it at 1.25 and target the price reach 1.80. Now it comes down from 1.70 to 1.53. Maybe I should sell them now and buy lower? Or maybe I just hold for it to reach eventual(guessing of course) 1.80? What u think? Those PN17 stock I think I'm gonna throw away and absorb the losses. I m thinking of selling those dividend stock. It is holding my money and pay so little but will those dividend stock be a better choice if another crisis is to come? So many question I need to sort out b4 Monday 8.30am

QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Aug 5 2011, 06:36 PM)
jeffvip is so OP
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rclxub.gif I thought Toss is the only things OP here? Btw, r u switching to zerg?
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Aug 5 2011, 07:49 PM)
rclxub.gif  I thought Toss is the only things OP here? Btw, r u switching to zerg?
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the only OP thing in sc2 is terran~ where u get the rumours from?
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:13 PM

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I got the rumour that you are too afraid to be in master league so you switch to zerg. Now you are back in diamond. Is that true?
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post Aug 6 2011, 08:31 AM

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lol all stalkers.

-jeff, pm ba. off topic but actually there must be some forumers here who works in this industry lol.

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post Aug 6 2011, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Aug 5 2011, 08:13 PM)
I got the rumour that you are too afraid to be in master league so you switch to zerg. Now you are back in diamond. Is that true?
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well i been to master league twice~ nothing to b afraid off~ i just wanna try the UP race instead the other 2 OP race
u guyz should switch to protoss since u guyz r like stalkers

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post Aug 6 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Aug 6 2011, 08:31 AM)
lol all stalkers.

-jeff, pm ba. off topic but actually there must be some forumers here who works in this industry lol.
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dont have to la... just for the sake of discussion...

QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Aug 6 2011, 08:47 AM)
well i been to master league twice~ nothing to b afraid off~ i just wanna try the UP race instead the other 2 OP race
u guyz should switch to protoss since u guyz r like stalkers
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stalking in sc2 really easy... just hit the friends button in the ladder tab, everything shown...

Oh, ya. I prefer OP race, why wanna make myself difficult? tongue.gif

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post Aug 6 2011, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Aug 5 2011, 07:55 PM)
the only OP thing in sc2 is terran~  where u get the rumours from?
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before terran and protoss even have anything, zerg already have loads of lings
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Aug 6 2011, 09:03 PM)
before terran and protoss even have anything, zerg already have loads of lings
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When zergs get a lot of lings terran get a lot of hellions ...and toss a lot of archons
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